2020 US Election (Part Two)

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What I'm about to say (and I'm not the first to come up with it) is not about Biden, but the incumbent and someone else:

Is it just me, or do Trump and the governor of New York have different opinions about the value of human life? :mischief:
 
I'd like to see Biden go public on who he would put in his cabinet. I think if he negotiated some of those now it could help his campaign. Would Bernie accept one? Andrew Yang? It's an opportunity to add so

I imagine people from Obama's administration. One name I've heard is Jaime Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan
 
What I'm about to say (and I'm not the first to come up with it) is not about Biden, but the incumbent and someone else:

Is it just me, or do Trump and the governor of New York have different opinions about the value of human life? :mischief:
They might have different definitions of ‘human’ to start with.
 
Elaborate.
 
All humans are equal, but some humans are worth three-fifths of others.
 
But there are plenty of white people in New York who need help.
 
Look, it's the same as in the reconstruction era when they disenfranchised the white poors and it was accepted because it meant it also disenfranchised the blacks altogether, or at least very disproportionately, so that in effect whites still ruled even if the blacks were no longer legally slaves.
 
Fair enough.
 
Bernie Sanders as the Independent Socialist who twice sought the Democratic Party nomination for U.S. President can't help but remind me of William Jennings Bryan, the insurgent agrarian People's (or Populist) Party candidate who did win thrice win the Democratic Party nomination for U.S. President, in a way...

I was thinking Trump is more Bryan-like, in the way he's going to end up shriveling up the Party that has supported him. By focusing on issues, and the sides of them, that appeal to shrinking old-white-folk demographics, and then being rather clear about Republicans not being a big tent (you're either pro-Trump or you're the enemy), he's forcing lots of Republicans into ideological stances that are going to slowly appeal to fewer and fewer voters. And since his ideology is essentially "Trump. Trump. TrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrump. What's good for me personally is good for America" there's no way to morph it once he's out of office.
 
I was thinking Trump is more Bryan-like, in the way he's going to end up shriveling up the Party that has supported him. By focusing on issues, and the sides of them, that appeal to shrinking old-white-folk demographics, and then being rather clear about Republicans not being a big tent (you're either pro-Trump or you're the enemy), he's forcing lots of Republicans into ideological stances that are going to slowly appeal to fewer and fewer voters. And since his ideology is essentially "Trump. Trump. TrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrump. What's good for me personally is good for America" there's no way to morph it once he's out of office.

He might win:(
 
He might win:(

Or he might not. But either way, whether it's 2020 or 2024, he's going to leave the GOP as a shell. Imagine the next open GOP primary, with him launching his tweets into it. Imagine the candidates for president, and in all the federal races, trying to extricate themselves from his shadow/baggage with him watching. Imagine FoxNews trying to accommodate him and the nominee simultaneously.
 
Or he might not. But either way, whether it's 2020 or 2024, he's going to leave the GOP as a shell. Imagine the next open GOP primary, with him launching his tweets into it. Imagine the candidates for president, and in all the federal races, trying to extricate themselves from his shadow/baggage with him watching. Imagine FoxNews trying to accommodate him and the nominee simultaneously.
Imagine all the people living for today. Imagine there's no countries and no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace. You may say I'm a dreamer....

Seriously though... I'm thinking that if he loses, he will just be discarded, FOX News will stop taking his calls and the Republican politicians will just start acting like they've never heard of him and deny having ever supported him.
 
I was thinking Trump is more Bryan-like, in the way he's going to end up shriveling up the Party that has supported him. By focusing on issues, and the sides of them, that appeal to shrinking old-white-folk demographics, and then being rather clear about Republicans not being a big tent (you're either pro-Trump or you're the enemy), he's forcing lots of Republicans into ideological stances that are going to slowly appeal to fewer and fewer voters. And since his ideology is essentially "Trump. Trump. TrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrumpTrump. What's good for me personally is good for America" there's no way to morph it once he's out of office.

He might win:(


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Trump in his bunker threatening protesters with doomsday weapons, hopefully these are his final months in power.

Imagine all the people living for today. Imagine there's no countries and no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace. You may say I'm a dreamer....

Seriously though... I'm thinking that if he loses, he will just be discarded, FOX News will stop taking his calls and the Republican politicians will just start acting like they've never heard of him and deny having ever supported him.

I still stand firmly by what I said here, because it still seems people firmly believe that Trump is THE true mastermind, architect, and cause of all the issues and problems in socio-political matters in the U.S., and that he single-handedly and by actual innovation and design heralded in a new, monstrous era from utter wholecloth, that just was not there at all, and the "Trumpists," and Republicans in general, are solely the ones to burden all blame for the crap in American society and politics, and that the U.S. 2020 Presidential Election should be viewed as a final boss fight for complete victory over ALL these negative elements at once, or defeat to an eternity of despair. I stand, however, by this post I made recently, below.

So, if Trump is on the ropes (we can only hope) and does get defeated in 2020, is the U.S. Nation and the Biden Administration prepared to deal with the REAL underlying issue at stake here? The reason Trump was electable in 2016 in the first place. The long-festering socio-political disease and divide that Trump and the "Trumpists," are merely a symptom of, not nearly the creators or innovators of in any way, shape, or form. The utterly toxic cesspool of socio-political beliefs, vicious confrontations, unwinnable and irreconcilable conflicts, bizarre and extreme turns of the "culture war," and, most importantly, the toxic, fire-spitting media machine - a cesspool both sides of the political divide are responsible war starting and exacerbating - the very same cesspool that Trump opportunistically rode the crest of while creating nothing of his own ideologically - only a signature campaigning, public appearance, declaration, and reaction style - which is, at heart, all "Trumpsim," really is. @Cloud_Strife's quote I quoted here is partially, right, except that the rot is not just in the Republican Party, but it's spread a LOT thicker on the ground, and the U.S. media - both with a "right-and-left-wing," bias are among the most rotten. Highbrow, professional journalism with any integrity in the U.S. pretty much died when Walter Cronkite retired. Because, as horrid and monstrous as he is, Donald Trump is NOT final boss fight, and it won't be over - and Democrats and Third Party/Independent voters also should look in the mirror at their part in the creating this fertile ground for such a monster to rise - or there will be WORSE monsters down the line, and probably not too far down...
 
Imagine all the people living for today. Imagine there's no countries and no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace. You may say I'm a dreamer....

Seriously though... I'm thinking that if he loses, he will just be discarded, FOX News will stop taking his calls and the Republican politicians will just start acting like they've never heard of him and deny having ever supported him.
Some might try that, like rats fleeing a sinking ship; but the loudest voices in the GOP have been moving toward a fashy racist cult for over a decade now. Those voters and local politicians who percolate upward to higher office aren't going away just because Trump (hopefully) leaves.
 
Some might try that, like rats fleeing a sinking ship; but the loudest voices in the GOP have been moving toward a fashy racist cult for over a decade now. Those voters and local politicians who percolate upward to higher office aren't going away just because Trump (hopefully) leaves.

Wealth conversation and kissing the butts of the ultra-wealthy seems to be a much higher priority of Republican policy in general than any racist or any other bigoted ideology as a whole. In fact, like in the Jim Crow days, all of the really significant, meaningful, effective, and hitting-home institutionally bigoted laws in the U.S. are passed by individual State Governments, because the Federal Government only has limited areas of jurisdiction (I won't say it was none - but limited meaningful areas) to push such laws or policies with any real impact other than broad-based tenor and rhetoric, which is mostly what the Trump Administration is doing, really. But mark my words, if one day the great majority of the plutocratic corporate masters decided that dignified, equal treatment for non-Whites and LGBTQ people was IMMENSELY more profitable, and, in fact, bigotry was outright hurting their profit margins, GOP social policy would turn on a dime, except for a few dinosaur throwbacks who would become like George Wallace and Robert Byrd among Democrats in the twilights of their lives.
 

Old, Temple-era Jewish law is not applicable to modern governance in any justifiable way. It doesn't apply to Jews without a Temple active, Christ dispensed of the need for those kinds of specific forms of conduct and theocratic measures, and for all others (including the bulk of American politicians who CLAIM to be Christian but in no way, shape, or form, save some superficial symbolism and invocation, live up to being Christian or following the Ministry of Christ), it is an irrelevancy. This quote is about as relevant and meaningful to any doctrinal justification as quoting Hammurabi's Code.
 
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