Can you imagine the tremors and aftershocks of announcing that he'd be Biden's Treasury Secretary?
2020 US Election (Part Two)
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Can you imagine the tremors and aftershocks of announcing that he'd be Biden's Treasury Secretary?
The problem might be who gets his senate seat. The Governor of VT would choose. Bernie as Sec of HHS might turn some heads or bring out some voters.
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The Trump campaign is still struggling to find an avenue of attack that works on Biden (particularly anything where Trump isn't worse). I wouldn't give them more targets by naming specific people. At least not this early.
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That's why you would only do a few and big names who already have been vetted thoroughly. Worst case, you can still fire them. But in the meantime, these serious people like f.e. Elizabeth Warren can fire back. However, It would take a lot of agency away from Biden himself and firmly cement him as a transitional president. Also, their campaign doesn't need a big splash at the moment, they are firmly winning after all. Which is why I find it unlikely. It certainly would be interesting though. I do however expect these big names to be touring heavily for him with a handshake deal having been made on their inclusion somehow afterwards.
I don't think Bernie would take a position in the cabinet. He's more effective outside and there are enough competent people on his side that may have more energy to organize that revamping of the health system. It's a completely different task to implement such and such. And since US cabinets are different from some European ones where a discussion can be made, what's the point to have a big hitter in there? The US executive is very hierarchical after all.
I don't think Bernie would take a position in the cabinet. He's more effective outside and there are enough competent people on his side that may have more energy to organize that revamping of the health system. It's a completely different task to implement such and such. And since US cabinets are different from some European ones where a discussion can be made, what's the point to have a big hitter in there? The US executive is very hierarchical after all.
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Bernie is an ideologue, not an executive, nor an administrator/manager. I can't see him taking any Biden Administration position, but it amuses me to think of the wailing and gnashing of teeth you'd get from Wall Street corner offices hearing about him as Treasurer.
I think Biden would do best by making former-SF-DA/state-AG Kamala Harris or former-policechief Val Demings as Attorney General, even though personally their anti-gun positions are not at all appealing to me. But in a Biden Administration, the absolute best I can hope for is an Obama-esque preference not to do anything at all and keep my fingers crossed that the Senate stays Republican (and that McConnell loses his own reelection campaign, pretty please).
I think Biden would do best by making former-SF-DA/state-AG Kamala Harris or former-policechief Val Demings as Attorney General, even though personally their anti-gun positions are not at all appealing to me. But in a Biden Administration, the absolute best I can hope for is an Obama-esque preference not to do anything at all and keep my fingers crossed that the Senate stays Republican (and that McConnell loses his own reelection campaign, pretty please).
Trump has apparently tweeted that the election should be delayed.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-com...rP6dnOxkQsilCZFGHBVrAoJgbwR7l4sFS4CJ0Zc7atElw
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-com...rP6dnOxkQsilCZFGHBVrAoJgbwR7l4sFS4CJ0Zc7atElw
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He can yap but Congress sets the election date. Too bad for him, eh?
And election results or not, as of Jan 20 his term ends.
Id guess its just part of his continuing theme that when hes defeated it must be because the other side cheated.
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Bingo. There's some scaremongering on the internet of "what if he refuses to leave office?"
Besides I don't think that it would happen, he would just be immediately rendered irrelevant to the process.
Let's see who the Biden VP pick is. I fear it will be something utterly cretinous.
Also, not surprised that everyone other than Bernie is likely to be in the Biden cabinet. Begs the question what was the consequence of them being obliterated in the primaries.
Also, not surprised that everyone other than Bernie is likely to be in the Biden cabinet. Begs the question what was the consequence of them being obliterated in the primaries.
The more valid scaremongering is about what if he refuses to accept the election result.
Trump could squash that flat by saying ofc I will abide by the election result. Instead he continues to try and cast doubt on the legitimacy of the elections.
Just read up on this because I realized I didn't know what would happen if there were no election by January 20th. It seems that while the Constitution is a bit murky on this specific scenario, the options seem to be either Congress selects an interim president or we just start going down the line of succession starting with department heads. "But the line of succession begins with the Speaker of the House" I hear you say. If there is no election, then there wouldn't be a Speaker of the House either. There also wouldn't be a House at all and the Senate would be running at only two-thirds since a third of all Senate seats come up for election every two years. That would make a strong case for not letting Congress decide who takes the office and just going down the line of succession. After the Speaker, it goes to the President Pro Tempore of the Senate which is Chuck Grassley. If his seat is one of the ones up for reelection this year, then Mike Pompeo would be president until an election can be held.
Thing is, assuming the GOP is able to prevent most people from voting by mail, it would be true if he says there will be significant loss of life if the election goes ahead. And as the "adults in the room" can the Dems disagree?
On the 20th Jan it is up to congress who takes over. That could be Trump.
Congress may not get to decide. Some cite the 20th Amendment giving Congress the authority, but even the 20th doesn't describe a scenario in which there is no election, just one in which both the president elect and vice president elect are disqualified for some reason.
Plus, without an election Congress will be gutted and might not get to make a decision because of that. I mean, come January 20th we'll be down to just 2/3 of the Senate and no House. Wouldn't seem fair to let just 2/3 of one of our legislative houses decide the president.
That's why I think going down the line of succession is the most likely scenario. That means either President Grassley or President Pompeo until there is an election.
Should be interesting... Assuming the scientific consensus is that covid-19 can't be transmitted from paper after an insignificant amount of time, there is only the question of electoral fraud while counting mailed-in votes. But one has to suppose that it isn't impossible to have observers to prevent such fraud.
Trump claiming that the election is rigged is just more clown attitude by him - should be clear by now that he is a circus act.
Trump claiming that the election is rigged is just more clown attitude by him - should be clear by now that he is a circus act.
You all should be crystal clear at this point that you're relying on the apparatus of the state, including the Republican party, not to go along with an attempt to stay in power that you now know is coming.
I personally don't think he has enough of the institutions, but then on the other hand, the feds are currently running clandestine kidnap vans on the streets of US cities, so who knows.
I am not sure "fair" has anything to do with it. From my reading it says exactly "the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected".
It is interesting that this "20th ammendment" is much more popular search term in the winter than the summer, even when there is no election. And mostly in Ohio?
Spoiler Google trends of 20th Amendment :
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