2020 US Election (Part Two)

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which I would say he is actually right when he says THAT is a refusal of peacefully transitioning power

Right, going through the Constitutional process to remove a criminal executive is a refusal of peacefully transferring power. Okay.
 
I love it when someone makes up something that hasn't happened and use it to support their argument.
"If a UFO landed in Central Park, everyone would start dancing the boogaloo."

Why would Schumer block a Democrat's nominee before an election and risk giving the seat to a newly elected Republican's nominee?

I can’t much respond to something like “always lying”.

As for DOJ stuff: they’ve been involved in trying to impeach him for most of his term (which I would say he is actually right when he says THAT is a refusal of peacefully transitioning power) on flimsy grounds and there is still nothing substantial.

Obama's DoJ people at the FBI lied to a fisa court to spy on Trump and these people preach to us about morality and ethics. :vomit:

12 counts of obstruction of justice on an investigation into whether his campaign staff were literal foreign agents running a active op. I still think he is guilty as sin and has been since the Miss Universe thing. He likes Putin, he likes Russia, and he likes working with them and taking their money. Considering this is a nation who (now this part of the discussion I get more nuanced about) we have set up as an enemy and whom has played that role out quite well the last 15 years, I'd say thats a problem and there is more there then you give credit. Obviously there is a huge thread on this topic already but you do not get to jsut say "nothing substantial" without being challenged.

I believe Mueller came up with 10 possible cases, but Mueller didn't know Obama's DoJ lied to a fisa court to spy on Trump. If he did he'd know why Trump didn't trust the investigators and made such a fuss about getting rid of people he suspected of being part of the conspiracy to get him. And he was right, IG Horowitz showed the pattern of deceit employed by Obama's people to rig the election and destroy the new president.

So, how many people conspired with Russians? Well the Clinton campaign paid Christopher Steele to get dirt on Trump from Russia. And of course we know Obama/Biden/Clinton allies in Ukraine did their part by getting Manafort. Does it bother Russiagaters that it was Clinton and the Dems who were conspiring with foreigners to interfere in our election? And they're okay with fraudulently obtained search warrants to spy on political opponents too. Vote for Joe, he doesn't lie!

https://apnews.com/article/e0d125d737be4a21a81bec3d9f1dffd8

Right, going through the Constitutional process to remove a criminal executive is a refusal of peacefully transferring power. Okay.

Lying to a fisa court to spy on Trump was going thru the constitutional process?
 
Why would Schumer block a Democrat's nominee before an election and risk giving the seat to a newly elected Republican's nominee?



Obama's DoJ people at the FBI lied to a fisa court to spy on Trump and these people preach to us about morality and ethics. :vomit:



I believe Mueller came up with 10 possible cases, but Mueller didn't know Obama's DoJ lied to a fisa court to spy on Trump. If he did he'd know why Trump didn't trust the investigators and made such a fuss about getting rid of people he suspected of being part of the conspiracy to get him. And he was right, IG Horowitz showed the pattern of deceit employed by Obama's people to rig the election and destroy the new president.

So, how many people conspired with Russians? Well the Clinton campaign paid Christopher Steele to get dirt on Trump from Russia. And of course we know Obama/Biden/Clinton allies in Ukraine did their part by getting Manafort. Does it bother Russiagaters that it was Clinton and the Dems who were conspiring with foreigners to interfere in our election? And they're okay with fraudulently obtained search warrants to spy on political opponents too. Vote for Joe, he doesn't lie!

https://apnews.com/article/e0d125d737be4a21a81bec3d9f1dffd8



Lying to a fisa court to spy on Trump was going thru the constitutional process?

They would likely do that now but it wasn't like that up to 2016.

Repubicans can play for keeps, just don't act surprised if the Dems return the favor when they win.
 
I can't believe Republicans are still whining about Mueller. He embarked on a hyper narrow investigation which basically only now caught the most brazen criminals. The Republican majority Senate found out more about Russia interference. He folded to literally any DOJ pressure.

Democrats get investigated by Ken Starr's who go on major fishing trips. Republicans get investigated by registered Republicans who blinker themselves.
 
If you can only ever bring one example (Lying to a fisa court), while the list of Trumps lies or lie-adjacent-communication tactics* to the public is endless, I can‘t really take you seriously. It makes you feel overly focused and partisan rather than objective. Also, there‘s a much easier answer for why Trump acted like he did - he has always had problems with the authorities and thus simply dislikes them. It‘s his natural way of acting going back to when he was a unsuccessful property entrepreneur or casino owner.

*The offical academic term would get blurred out here I think.
 
The Beastie Boys have licensed one of their songs for the first time ever - they licensed Sabotage (my favorite!) for a Biden ad which highlights the devastation that Covid has wrought on the live music industry.

 
The Beastie Boys have licensed one of their songs for the first time ever - they licensed Sabotage (my favorite!) for a Biden ad which highlights the devastation that Covid has wrought on the live music industry.


Yeah, my friend in DC who plays drums has said that it seems likely that when all is done live music will be basically under monopoly control in terms of who owns the venues, because independent venues are just getting destroyed.
 
Don't vote for Biden says Trump "he'll listen to the scientists!" Do we live in modern America, or medieval Europe!?
Biden campaign responds to this terrible accusation by confirming he will do this!

Trump also said “if I listened totally to the scientists, we would right now have a country that would be in a massive depression, instead of, we’re like a rocket ship. Take a look at the numbers.” Trump clearly needs a rocket ship because if he believes that he must be living on another planet!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-biden-will-listen-to-scientists_n_5f8d04dac5b67da85d1f86c2
 
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It is funny that Biden can be in any way tied to science - but shows that nothing is accelerating other than the critical mass of the US public. And it seems to be on a collision course with a black hole.
 
The final debate is 3 days away!

Each candidate will be able to talk for 2 minutes since the other guy will be muted.


I've also heard rumors that they are going to mute Trump whenever they want.

And also the foreign policy topic was dropped to keep Biden safe.
 
And also the foreign policy topic was dropped to keep Biden safe.
How? Biden's foreign policy is standard Atlanticist foreign policy, while Trump's has been by and large a flaming dumpster fire.
 
How? Biden's foreign policy is standard Atlanticist foreign policy, while Trump's has been by and large a flaming dumpster fire.
The Hunter Biden $$$ with 50% going to dad kickback thing can't be brought up if foreign policy isn't a debate subject.

Rush Limbaugh was talking about it today.
 
The final debate is 3 days away!

Each candidate will be able to talk for 2 minutes since the other guy will be muted.


I've also heard rumors that they are going to mute Trump whenever they want.

And also the foreign policy topic was dropped to keep Biden safe.
There never was any such agreement. Trump made that up. The moderator has always been the one to choose the topics for discussion.
 
Perhaps it was the 6 topics chosen by the debate commission?

I see climate change and race relations, but strangely no foreign policy.
The moderator chooses the topics.
 
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