2020 US Election (Part Two)

[Zkribbler]

My mail-in-ballot never arrived. I'm sure it's entangled somewhere in Manila's covid morass.

Not that it matters. My voting address is in the bluest part of the bluest city of the bluest state. My elector is a smurf.

 

[Estebonrober]

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/31/9299...-spray-protesters-during-march-to-polls-event

Participants and organizers say they had proper permits for Saturday's event, which marched from Wayman's Chapel AME Church to a rally at the city's Court Square. Following the rally, organizers had then planned to lead the some 200 marchers to a nearby polling place.

fudging bullfeathers.

 

[Imaus]

Anyone else seeing the latest bullfeathers from Texas? Biden apparently had to cancel due to DJTjr being a little **** and armed trump supporters in the way. Ramming of Biden vehicles? And the Republicans want to throw out 100k ballots that were curbside?

What the fudge.

Isn't the SecServ still on Biden? Why is he feeling threatened, at all? Why is DJTjr even allowed to run his mouth at this point? This is infuriating. This is what happens when one side has power and force and doesn't give a damn about using it to silence and stiffle the opposition. Where are the armed Biden supporters, where's the showdowns, the lines in the sand to keep the Trump fudgs at bay? Damn sure the LE is Republican infested, so they're no help.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Trump and his family are corrupt to the core. They are fighting to stay out of jail.

 

[Zkribbler]

... armed trump supporters in the way. Ramming of Biden vehicles?

Isn't the SecServ still on Biden?

Neither Biden nor Harris were on the buses. There was no ramming of the buses, but the pro-Trump rioters did surround and force them to slow to 20 mph.
With Texas's stand-your-ground and open-carry laws, the people on the buses would have been justified in pulling their registered guns and blasting the rioters.

 

[EnglishEdward]

Anyone else seeing the latest bullfeathers from Texas? Biden apparently had to cancel due to DJTjr being a little **** and armed trump supporters in the way. Ramming of Biden vehicles? And the Republicans want to throw out 100k ballots that were curbside?

What the fudge.

Isn't the SecServ still on Biden? Why is he feeling threatened, at all? Why is DJTjr even allowed to run his mouth at this point? This is infuriating. This is what happens when one side has power and force and doesn't give a damn about using it to silence and stiffle the opposition. Where are the armed Biden supporters, where's the showdowns, the lines in the sand to keep the Trump ****s at bay? Damn sure the LE is Republican infested, so they're no help.

It might be that Joe Biden has cancelled at the specific request of the Secret Service
because the Secret Service has discovered far right nutter group plans to kill him off.

 

[Verbose]

It might be that Joe Biden has cancelled at the specific request of the Secret Service
because the Secret Service has discovered far right nutter group plans to kill him off.

But the far right nutters are also emboldened by the incumbent, explicitly and publicly told to "stand by" etc.

The Secret Service is likely doing what it's supposed to be doing. But that kind of security detail was also set up to be "intimidated". They're the ones charged with looking out for whomever they protect, and remove said person from potential danger. It wasn't really designed for a situation where the president is riling part of the public up against his opposite number at election time, and the Secret Service men is then supposed to protect someone against the Faithful of the President, taking it upon themselves to interpret His wishes...

 

[onejayhawk]

Trump and his family are corrupt to the core. They are fighting to stay out of jail.

Bull crackers.

If there was credible evidence of anything at all, Mueller or Schiff would have brought it out and waved it around.

Why even pretend anymore?

It might be that Joe Biden has cancelled at the specific request of the Secret Service
because the Secret Service has discovered far right nutter group plans to kill him off.

It was left wingnuts that burned cities all summer, giving a certain symmetry to the conspiracy theories.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Anyone else seeing the latest bullfeathers from Texas? Biden apparently had to cancel due to DJTjr being a little **** and armed trump supporters in the way. Ramming of Biden vehicles? And the Republicans want to throw out 100k ballots that were curbside?

What the fudge.

Isn't the SecServ still on Biden? Why is he feeling threatened, at all? Why is DJTjr even allowed to run his mouth at this point? This is infuriating. This is what happens when one side has power and force and doesn't give a damn about using it to silence and stiffle the opposition. Where are the armed Biden supporters, where's the showdowns, the lines in the sand to keep the Trump ****s at bay? Damn sure the LE is Republican infested, so they're no help.

I saw it and it reeks of desperation. That Texas is in play really shows what trouble Trump is in. While his supporters may not consciously acknowledge the reality of his position, the fact that they are acting out like this is as much a sign of their desperation as it is an answer to his calls for violence and intimidation.

 

[Phrossack]

I saw it and it reeks of desperation. That Texas is in play really shows what trouble Trump is in. While his supporters may not consciously acknowledge his prediction, the fact that they are acting out like this is as much a sign of their desperation as it is an answer to his calls for violence and intimidation.

I don't think it's desperation at all. It's because for the first time, we have the leaders of the GOP and the country encouraging terrorism. Their supporters have free license to attack their opponents now and they know it, so they're finally doing what they've always wanted to do.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I don't think it's desperation at all. It's because for the first time, we have the leaders of the GOP and the country encouraging terrorism. Their supporters have free license to attack their opponents now and they know it, so they're finally doing what they've always wanted to do.

Its not mutually exclusive.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ould-have-to-be-off-by-way-more-than-in-2016/

Good summary on Trump's chances per 538. They note that the polls would have to be off more than they were in 2016 for Trump to win. If the polls were 'only' equally as bad now as they were in 2016, Biden will still win.

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This article is on when polls close. There's an outside chance we'll have a good clue as to who is going to win the election by as early as 8:30-9pm eastern. If North Carolina, Pennsylvania or Florida are called for Biden, it's basically game over - just like I knew it was game over when Florida and then Wisconsin and Michigan went for Trump in 2016.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...-election-night-but-how-close-might-they-get/

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Do shy Trump voters exist? 538 says probably not. (ugh it's a podcast not an article)

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...nt-good-evidence-that-shy-trump-voters-exist/

 

[Kaitzilla]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ould-have-to-be-off-by-way-more-than-in-2016/

Good summary on Trump's chances per 538. They note that the polls would have to be off more than they were in 2016 for Trump to win. If the polls were 'only' equally as bad now as they were in 2016, Biden will still win.

I just assume reality is at the far edge of the error margin.

So take 4 points from Biden and give them to Trump usually.

That should result in President Biden at this point.

 

[Phrossack]

Its not mutually exclusive.

The GOP went into this boxing match with two things: a fanatical determination to win, and a loaded gun. Now that it's losing the boxing, it's reaching for the gun. The GOP will always win in the end because it is willing and able to win by cheating and using violence.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I don't think it's desperation at all. It's because for the first time, we have the leaders of the GOP and the country encouraging terrorism. Their supporters have free license to attack their opponents now and they know it, so they're finally doing what they've always wanted to do.

The GOP and it's support is showing it's true colours.

For years they've been acting as if they're the protectors of Democracy, defending it against a Muslim terrorist supporter who wanted to implement death panels. Their base swallowed that nonsense hook, line and sinker. Then comes along Trump who actually acts on it, instead of just keeping to rhetoric. And now here we are.

Fox & the GOP are responsible for creating Trump and the corruption we are witnessing and which the shills are trying to downplay. Instead of draining the swamp, there is only swamp.

 

[Phrossack]

The GOP and it's support is showing it's true colours.

For years they've been acting as if they're the protectors of Democracy, defending it against a Muslim terrorist supporter who wanted to implement death panels. Their base swallowed that nonsense hook, line and sinker. Then comes along Trump who actually acts on it, instead of just keeping to rhetoric. And now here we are.

Fox & the GOP are responsible for creating Trump and the corruption we are witnessing and which the shills are trying to downplay. Instead of draining the swamp, there is only swamp.

Yeah, that's kinda my point. They're a fanatic terrorist organization that can win any election through cheating and terrorism.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

@Ziggy Stardust
I think Fox and the GOP are as much a reflection of reality as they are responsible for creating it. What I mean is that they clearly have whipped a lot of racist animosity and enabled people like Trump to thrive but at the end of the day, there are a lot of racists that have always wanted exactly what they get in Trump.

 

[aelf]

Well, a certain kind of 'moderates' will warn Democrats against 'sinking to the level' of the Republicans, even if it results in a Republican victory through violence and intimidation. They're ready to give up democracy for the sake of the high road, if they're not just concern trolling.

There's one here but he has been quiet for a few pages.

 

[Kyriakos]

Any news about those who already voted?

 

[bernie14]

Well, a certain kind of 'moderates' will warn Democrats against 'sinking to the level' of the Republicans, even if it results in a Republican victory through violence and intimidation. They're ready to give up democracy for the sake of the high road, if they're not just concern trolling.

There's one here but he has been quiet for a few pages.

Are we supposed to guess as to whom you are baiting?