2020 US Election (Part Two)

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Don't really care. Go back to batting for the Republicans.
 
So straight up non concern variety
 
Any news about those who already voted?
Not really, at least not officially. States do not release any information on results until after the polls close on election night to keep from tipping the scales.

All indications from polling organizations show that a huge number of Democrats have voted early whereas most Republicans will vote on election day. There have been a few articles/polls suggesting a few individual areas have more Republican early-vote turnout than Democratic, but the overwhelming majority of available polling data points to the opposite - massive Democratic early turnout, with potentially record-breaking overall turnout. On years with high turnout, Democrats tend to dominate.
 
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Wow, the early vote totals in 2020 are amazing!


Votes collected by Halloween - 90.48 Million.

Trump 2016 - 62.98 Million
Hillary 2016 - 65.85 Million

Early voting sure is convenient.
Surely this is peculiar to the U.S. of A., because here we vote on Sundays and use schools, primary and secondary, and so you rarely have to walk more than 10 blocks. At most it might take one hour off your Sunday.
 
Maybe if they had voting centers in large stores, only to open on Black Friday and provide coupons to those who vote.
Suppression of the vote by various machinations is as big an issue as lack of motivation to go out and vote. In the year or two leading up to 2018, the Republican party of Georgia managed to remove as many people from their voting rolls as there are people in some smaller states.
 
On the “lighter” side of the election, anyone else finding it gosh-darned* exhausting talking with family members about it?

I’ve got one side convinced Trump is a Nazi, and the other that Biden is a communist. I just try to avoid the topic altogether, but it comes up somehow and I end up having to try and convince them that things are not as bad as they make them out to be—even when they are polar opposites!

TV news rots the forkin’* brain.

*my internal choice of words varies from the written ones
 
My immediate family is united in fervent opposition to Trump and we do not have contact with my in-laws or extended family who tend to fall on the racism spectrum. We also avoid most social media.
 
On the “lighter” side of the election, anyone else finding it gosh-darned* exhausting talking with family members about it?

I’ve got one side convinced Trump is a Nazi, and the other that Biden is a communist. I just try to avoid the topic altogether, but it comes up somehow and I end up having to try and convince them that things are not as bad as they make them out to be—even when they are polar opposites!

TV news rots the forkin’* brain.

*my internal choice of words varies from the written ones
Happily no.
Brexit and Bojo remain subjects of division within my family but nobody can stand Trump.
 
Nevada polls are fairly bad (they were predicting Heller would get reelected in 2018). But they are one of the few states where analysing early voting and mail-in voting, doesn't end up completely falling on its face. In 2018 this guy accurately predicted the Democratic wins in the state. Now

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/the-early-voting-blog-3

The Clark Dem firewall is now above 89,500 with a big new batch of mail that posted overnight. This is well above the 73,000-ballot firewall of 2016 and even above the 87,600 extrapolated number taking into account the increase in voters on the rolls since four years ago.

If you look at the math below, it already was very difficult for Trump. Now he has less of a chance to win than he does of getting a gaming license in Nevada.

I don't know how much more mail will be returned before Tuesday, nor do I know how many ballots will be rejected (the rate so far shows it doesn’t change the lead very much). But the dice are cast, and they look like snake eyes for the GOP.

More than 400,000 ballots have been cast by mail in Clark County and more than 775,000 overall. The number of votes left for Election Day continues to dwindle, and the chances of an overwhelming GOP turnout to turn this around becomes less and less likely.

More later, but the math is just not there for Trump.

Democrats have built up a massive lead in the state, one much larger than the one that saved their bacon in 2016, when Trump had a last minute surge. Now the lead is higher, and there are fewer voters left for election day.


Anyway the polls,

2016
Clinton: 45.0%
Trump: 42.2%

2020
Biden: 52.0%
Trump: 43.4%

At 538 in 2016, the Clinton lead was less than 3%. I wasn't paying nearly as much attention back then, but I don't really remember that coming through in terms of media attention.

Now, 8.6%. Even if all undecided, break to Trump, it is a clear Biden win. And polling shows undecided are younger and less white than the average.

And the National polls were pretty close to the actuals, once you factor in undecideds. 2012 had a much larger actual national error. The issue in 2016 was state polls, which led Clinton and the media to falsely believe she had a blue wall, and a EC advantage, instead of a disadvantage.

Or look here is the RCP no tossup average. Clinton was only at 272, while Biden is at 350.

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On the “lighter” side of the election, anyone else finding it gosh-darned* exhausting talking with family members about it?

I’ve got one side convinced Trump is a Nazi, and the other that Biden is a communist. I just try to avoid the topic altogether, but it comes up somehow and I end up having to try and convince them that things are not as bad as they make them out to be—even when they are polar opposites!

TV news rots the forkin’* brain.

*my internal choice of words varies from the written ones

Yes. Tuesday (or, probably mid-December, who am I kidding) can't come soon enough.
 
A hit dog will holler

With that established could you please stop yelling
Yelling?, nah....I was just curious as to who @aelf was specifically referencing, since he lacked the....(hmmm)...."conviction" to say. Are you...ok...? Have the dog whistles affected your hearing?
 
Bull crackers.

If there was credible evidence of anything at all, Mueller or Schiff would have brought it out and waved it around.
The state of NY thinks differently. And Mueller never even looked at Trump's money trails. The Trump family is fighting awfully hard to stymie any and all investigations into the Trump organization finances. So far both Trump U and the Trump Foundation were found to be totally crooked. Insurance fraud and the illegal transfer of his father's wealth are both on the table. As soon as he can no longer use the US DOJ for his defense, his fatty goose flesh will be cooked. And wait until they take a look at his inaugural funding: $100 million spent without any accountability or public records.
 
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Any Trump investigations should be left to state AGs anyway; Biden blowing his Politics Mana on the guy that’s already lost? Pfft, that’s just whizzing away a victory. He’s already got the coronavirus to contend with—the postmortem of Trump’s presidency is a federal nonissue.

Lock her up!

Mrs. Clinton remains a free citizen. Trump, despite bumbling almost everything else, didn’t blow it on trying to nail the Clintons (whether their wrongdoings were fiction or not.)

I still want to know what the heck Susan McDougal was hiding though.
 
Any Trump investigations should be left to state AGs anyway; Biden blowing his Politics Mana on the guy that’s already lost? Pfft, that’s just whizzing away a victory. He’s already got the coronavirus to contend with—the postmortem of Trump’s presidency is a federal nonissue.

Lock her up!

Mrs. Clinton remains a free citizen. Trump, despite bumbling almost everything else, didn’t blow it on trying to nail the Clintons (whether their wrongdoings were fiction or not.)

I still want to know what the heck Susan McDougal was hiding though.

I agree with this actually. Biden should not touch Trump with a proverbial 50 ft pole.
 
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