a fair number who otherwise would vote Democrat but would not if Sanders was on the ticket.
Do you know if you can rely on those people? There were PLENTY of Never-Trumpers who voted for him anyway.
a fair number who otherwise would vote Democrat but would not if Sanders was on the ticket.
In every single race so far, Bernie's votes are divergent from exit polls by more than twice the predicted error. If this happened in Bolivia or Columbia we'd already be calling it election rigging, but since it's domestic everything is fine.
Nope. That's still buying into the idea that all of Trump's voters are racists who are slaves to the cult of personality. Trump constantly throws red meat to the Republican base. The people that held their nose and voted for him because of Scalia's empty seat like him more now that they know he'll deliver. Acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital, banning trans people from the military, the tax cuts, the trade war, his draconian immigration policies, appointing pro life judges, etc. they like that. That's policy. They're coming back out for him and holding their nose a little less.You don't need a counter to MAGA. You need a counter to Trump. Biden has a more likable personality than does Trump.
It may be sad that that's how we elect a president. But that's how we elect a president.
People didn't vote for Trump's policies. They voted for Trump.
Do you have a source for that? What you said implies that there were lots of never Trumpers in 2016 and that they voted for him..... There were PLENTY of Never-Trumpers who voted for him anyway.
Do you have a source for that? What you said implies that there were lots of never Trumpers in 2016 and that they voted for him.
A few hundred prominent republicans doesn't constitute much. @cardgame seemed to imply that there was a significant voting block that voted for him even though they did not want him to be president. That is what I was inquiring about.The Never Trump movement consists of about 100 people, of whom about 1/3 seem to be employed by David Frum at the Atlantic.
Dude, are you joking? There were like dozens of prominent Republicans who said Trump was dangerous, that he was a moron, that he could never be allowed to become President...they virtually all fell in to support him.
A few hundred prominent republicans doesn't constitute much. @cardgame seemed to imply that there was a significant voting block that voted for him even though they did not want him to be president. That is what I was inquiring about.
Trump got about 900 thousand more votes than baby Bush in 2004, 3 million more than McCain in 2008, and 2 million more than Romney in 2012. So I'm guessing that the "Never-Trump" contingent was a very vocal, but very minor part of the Republican electorate. Seems more likely that Republican voters just went ahead and voted Republican as usual.What I thought he was talking about is people who claimed they did not want him to be President and ended up voting for him anyway. His electoral showing in 2016 showed that the Republican coalition turned out and voted for him, regardless of what they were saying about how awful he was or how much they hated him.
Also, here is a video of Biden attacking a factory worker yesterday, talking about "AR-14" and calling him "a horse's a*s". Because attacking voters always works.
Trump got about 900 thousand more votes than baby Bush in 2004, 3 million more than McCain in 2008, and 2 million more than Romney in 2012. So I'm guessing that the "Never-Trump" contingent was a very vocal, but very minor part of the Republican electorate. Seems more likely that Republican voters just went ahead and voted Republican as usual.
Approximately 40% of the population is going to vote Republican if they vote. Doesn't matter if the candidate is GWBush, Big Donny Dump, Ronald Reagan, or David Duke. And that 40% is fairly reliable about turning out. About 45% of the population is going to vote Democrat if they vote, but that's a bigger if. The other fifteen percent genuinely could go either way, but the common mistake is thinking they will vote for whoever they like best at the time, when really if they vote (which is unlikely in the first place) they will vote for whoever they hate and/or fear the least at time.
Trump got about 900 thousand more votes than baby Bush in 2004, 3 million more than McCain in 2008, and 2 million more than Romney in 2012. So I'm guessing that the "Never-Trump" contingent was a very vocal, but very minor part of the Republican electorate. Seems more likely that Republican voters just went ahead and voted Republican as usual.
I'll go ahead and be dorky and point out that 40% of the voting-eligible population is not going to vote regardless. So starting from the available 60% tops that actually votes, I'd say 25- 28% is voting Republican regardless and 20-25% is voting Democrat Regardless, leaving , as you say, about 15% tops that could go either way. But it might be more like 7%, if you take into account the people who self describe as "independent" but are really just resistant to being labeled.Approximately 40% of the population is going to vote Republican if they vote. Doesn't matter if the candidate is GWBush, Big Donny Dump, Ronald Reagan, or David Duke. And that 40% is fairly reliable about turning out. About 45% of the population is going to vote Democrat if they vote, but that's a bigger if. The other fifteen percent genuinely could go either way, but the common mistake is thinking they will vote for whoever they like best at the time, when really if they vote (which is unlikely in the first place) they will vote for whoever they hate and/or fear the least at time.
That was that 15% turning out because they (IMO unjustifiably) really hated and feared Hillary Clinton. Now they have a snootful of Trumpian reality
I'll go ahead and be dorky and point out that 40% of the voting-eligible population is not going to vote regardless. So starting from the available 60% tops that actually votes, I'd say 25% is voting Republican regardless and 20% is voting Democrat Regardless, leaving , as you say, about 15% that could go either way. The remaining 40% are just not voting period.
If they hated Hillary Clinton for basically no reason, why on Earth do you think they are going to acknowledge "Trumpian reality"?