Well, the scenario involves a "tug-of-war" over control of California between the Oregon Empire and it's puppets, and the Southern California Confederacy and it's puppets (San Francisco being the only actually independent city left in California). So it seems as though SCC has made it far north enough to conquer San Jose for itself, possibly out of San Francisco hands, I'm not sure, haven't written the history yet.
Altered Maps XII: Not to Scale
- Thread starter Save_Ferris
- Start date
Well, the scenario involves a "tug-of-war" over control of California between the Oregon Empire and it's puppets, and the Southern California Confederacy and it's puppets (San Francisco being the only actually independent city left in California). So it seems as though SCC has made it far north enough to conquer San Jose for itself, possibly out of San Francisco hands, I'm not sure, haven't written the history yet.
sophie
Break My Heart
I'm just struggling to understand why this "independent city" controls the entirety of the East Bay and Peninsula, and even all the way up into the parts of Sonoma (and possibly parts of Mendocino) counties where there is literally nothing going on, and yet can't keep a handle on the largest city in the region. That is a very large swathe of land, as madviking will happily tell you. From a geopolitical standpoint it doesn't make much sense. Personally I think it would make more sense for the Southern Californian whatever to cut out somewhere in San Benito county. There isn't much between Salinas/Hollister and San Jose so I don't think it really works as far as battleground region is concerned. If you wanted to you could also possibly just make the South Bay/Santa Clara/Santa Cruz/and other parts of the Monterey Bay their own polity. They're commonly referred to as "Central Coast" when not blanketed under the Bay Area moniker.
To be completely honest, yeah, I'm not an expert on California. I'm working off a geographic map, only using Google Maps for reference on city placement. Most of my borders are either geographically defined, or, better yet, just what looked ascetically pleasing at the time.
If you're willing to make a quick draft (doesn't have to be pretty, just slap some borders on a map of Cali) of what you're proposing, I'll add it to my new map.
EDIT: And since I'm not an expert on most of the country, if anyone wants to chirp in, please do so! I'm trying to create a post-apocalyptic map of America that defies convention to a degree, and by that I mean not creating massive blobs of territory (i.e. not just giving the Great Plains to nomads, every map does that for some reason) that follow old state lines to a degree, but rather a more "realistic"/"organic" and divided one where borders somewhat make sense, and follow populated areas. My map as of now kind of does that, but in areas I lack geographic knowledge I've kinda blobbed out and relied on geography. Any local help appreciated!
EDIT2: Here's the map in it's current form. Colored version and just borders version for geography:
Spoiler :
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
This Oregon, but without the mountain territory, reminds me of Peru... 
Winner
Diverse in Unity
The creator of xkcd recently made a map of Earth shifted by 90° (with the prime meridian as new equator), with a general guess of the resulting climate:
Reminds me of this:
The reason is that if you return to a pre-modern level of technology, nomadic horsemen become a force to be reckoned with. The Great Plains would become a reservoir of highly mobile tribes/clans/tribal confederations from which they would occasionally erupt to raid the surrounding lands, sometimes with great success.
Just as settled societies didn't stand much chance in the middle of the Eurasian steppe, I doubt they'd fare much better on the Great Plains.
Wow, what's the story behind it? The projection confuses me, is that too only a rotation of Earth's surface?Reminds me of this:
Spoiler :
Winner
Diverse in Unity
It's from THIS page. Check it out, tons of very nice sci-fi-ish maps.
In this particular case, the author explored Jared Diamond's hypothesis that continents with an east-west axis are more conducive to the growth of advanced civilizations. So he realigned them like this to minimize north-south distances and maximise the east-west orientation.
Spoiler :
And here he tilted Earth in order to ensure both poles would be in ocean. As a result, less water is locked in large ice-sheets. As I said, great stuff.
Winner
Diverse in Unity
EwwwYay, Diamond... cool maps though.
Corrected
Some of the maps are a bit weird, but I like the guy's attention to detail.
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
You realize Diamond is the guy who hates civilization itself, right?
Omega124
Challenging Fate
Missouri in the Dakotas? Really? I really liked this map until that.
Does anyone have a high quality blank map of America, by any chance? I want to join in on this post-apocalyptic America bandwagon
Does anyone have a high quality blank map of America, by any chance? I want to join in on this post-apocalyptic America bandwagon
madviking
north american scum
It is.
Missouri River starts in Montana. Could be taking name from river, not State.
VRWC nailed it. Notice how it follows the river towards the tail end of it.
Mango Elephant
Deity
This is a map of America with the states, excluding Alaska and Hawaii.
This is my map of America, with only thirteen states.
We sold Hawaii to Japan and Alaska to Russia, so we don't have those anymore.
This is my map of America, with only thirteen states.
We sold Hawaii to Japan and Alaska to Russia, so we don't have those anymore.
madviking
north american scum
I approve of MegaVirginia.
Not a single one of those other states is worth association.
Mango Elephant
Deity
I was going to put Idaho with Cascadia, but by the time I realized it was in Montana I had done too much to be able to alt-z it back with its original borders.
TBH I really like my Mississippi, even though I'd rather die than live there.
TBH I really like my Mississippi, even though I'd rather die than live there.
Similar threads
- Locked
