Alternate History Thread IV: The Sequel

Europa Universalis is actually quite educative. I suggest you try that, or Wikipedia. :p
 
Um... I don't know what countries they are. -.-
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Might it be... the Holy Roman Empire? :p

EDIT: On a wholly random note:

G. K. Chesterton said:
I am convinced that if we could tell the supernatural story of Christ word for word as of a Chinese hero, call him the Son of Heaven instead of the Son of God, and trace his rayed nimbus in the gold tread of Chinese embroideries or the gold lacquer of Chinese pottery, instead of in the gold leaf of our own old Catholic paintings, there would be a unanimous testimony to the spiritual purity of the story. We should hear nothing then of the injustice of substitution or the illogicality of atonement, of the superstitious exaggeration of the burden of sin or the impossible insolence of an invasion of the laws of nature. We should admire the chivalry of the Chinese conception of a god who fell from the sky to fight the dragons and save the wicked from being devoured by their own fault and folly. We should admire the subtlety of the Chinese view of life, which perceives that all human imperfection is in very truth a crying imperfection.
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Discuss! ;)
 
das said:
EDIT: On a wholly random note:

<Chesterton>

Discuss! ;)
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Not much to discuss. Probably correct in general, as shown by cases. CS Lewis talked about how to "steal past those watchful dragons" and slip Christianity in to people disguised as literature, and did so with The Chronicles of Narnia, which some people still don't realize are Christian. A more recent writer (born 1965) has been doing so too. Hands up everyone who can tell me who the more recent one is without looking! You may look to confirm it.
 
silver 2039 said:
No Sirius is Jesus. The arch, the veil, the sacrifice, the passing on....duh.
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If Sirius were Jesus then how does the Resurrection fit in?

Oh, wait. :p
 
I am pretty sure Harry Potter died from sacrifice then came back because he was to good to die.
 
Trying to get back to alternate history...;)

I was going to try to make the Basil II PoD into a 700 year long (or so) timeline but I'm not sure if anyone's interested in reading such a beast, which would of course take a long time to crank out even in installments. Perhaps a series of maps instead, after I finish Part II?
 
Dachspmg said:
Trying to get back to alternate history...;)

I was going to try to make the Basil II PoD into a 700 year long (or so) timeline but I'm not sure if anyone's interested in reading such a beast, which would of course take a long time to crank out even in installments. Perhaps a series of maps instead, after I finish Part II?
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Yes and you could spend the time making 50 years of updates for DaNES.
 
Actually, what I had in mind was a native Chinese monotheistic religion, probably with heavy Confucian elements. Ah well.

I was going to try to make the Basil II PoD into a 700 year long (or so) timeline but I'm not sure if anyone's interested in reading such a beast, which would of course take a long time to crank out even in installments.
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Well, I would read it, but will you write it? :p

I suppose lots of maps work too.
 
Luckymoose said:
Yes and you could spend the time making 50 years of updates for DaNES.
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That is probably the largest impediment to the TL's construction. ;)
das said:
Well, I would read it, but will you write it?
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If I have the time. Thlayli actually managed to guess a good deal of it after some prompting on GTalk; it would probably be pretty easy for you to as well.
 
Did the Byzantines win? :p
 
A couple random PoD ideas I had in mind:

1. Charlemagne is crowned Emperor of the Holy German (or Holy Frankish) Empire instead of using the Roman epithet. The implications here are pretty vast. (I know he was already King of the Franks, but the Pope could still embellish it a bit)

2. Martin Luther supports the Peasants War; as a result Frederick of Saxony gives him up to the Church, to be burned in Augsburg in 1526. Lutheranism will subsequently never gain princely patronage in North Germany, but the Anabaptist and other radical peasant groups will grow to revere Luther as a saint. Possibility of 'Lutheran socialism' further down the line.

3. Barbarossa takes his armor off. :p
 
The problem with 2. is why Martin Luther would ever support the Peasants' War. :p
 
Yeah, but wasn't Luther all for noble rights and stuff? It's amazing how much you forget after a year of European History AP. :p

But yeah, they were against God's authority, and stuff. :(
 
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