Ank12 - A little Furball? - 3CC AW Redux
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1400AD [preturn]: Ok.. have a look around.
Greece and China are in the IA. Not good. That will propably mean rifles.. 12 turns until we have cavalry. More, propably, as we don't have the funds to have so much decifit..
The rest of the turns: Kill a settler - cav - trio. Lose two knights in the heat of the battle.
Also kill a Russian settler-longbow pair.
And lose one caravel when two frigates attacked on the Eastcoast.
I wasn't sure how to proceed, so I sent most of the troops to Susa... they propably should have been sent to the Eastcoast, except knights.
We're badly broke. No money, no techs. I had to already slow it quite a bit...
We can't wait for upgrading caravels to galleons. We need to make our move now, before the AI has infantries. If it gets those, we have no chance.
Sir Bugsy - UP you go...
Bede - on deck
el_filet
andvruss
Ankka
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Greece and China are in the IA. Not good. That will propably mean rifles.. 12 turns until we have cavalry. More, propably, as we don't have the funds to have so much decifit..
The rest of the turns: Kill a settler - cav - trio. Lose two knights in the heat of the battle.
Also kill a Russian settler-longbow pair.
And lose one caravel when two frigates attacked on the Eastcoast.
I wasn't sure how to proceed, so I sent most of the troops to Susa... they propably should have been sent to the Eastcoast, except knights.
We're badly broke. No money, no techs. I had to already slow it quite a bit...
We can't wait for upgrading caravels to galleons. We need to make our move now, before the AI has infantries. If it gets those, we have no chance.
Sir Bugsy - UP you go...
Bede - on deck
el_filet
andvruss
Ankka
REMEMBER: 24h to post a "got it", total 48 to post turnlog and save.
el_filet
Prince
agree we shouldn't wait for galleons. we should land with a stack containing a decent amount of cannons and defenders to protect our future cavs. it will throw us back if we can't hold our ground on the continent.
i don't think we can afford to abandon one of our cities, we should choose a landing point without culture when one or 2 cities are destroyed to hold our ground there.
enough ships needed to land everything at once.
continue research after MT since our free tech could help us big time (nat or steam).
i don't think we can afford to abandon one of our cities, we should choose a landing point without culture when one or 2 cities are destroyed to hold our ground there.
enough ships needed to land everything at once.
continue research after MT since our free tech could help us big time (nat or steam).
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I have it.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Progress report. I would have posted, but I left the floppy with the save at work.
Our first cav has rolled off the line and we're setting up for another cross channel invasion.
Our first cav has rolled off the line and we're setting up for another cross channel invasion.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight Science is clicked down one notch for positive cash flow. Mil Trad due in 8. I have to say this is very do-able gents. We were in a much worse situation in DI1. We can do this.
Early Produce a knight and two cannon. Two settler trios are dropped off on the east coast of our continent. Kill the Russian and collect two slaves. Kill one of the Greeks, we dont have enough military in former England to get the second one. (3-0)
Middle Produce two cannon, a knight and a musket. The Greeks found a city right next to our immortal. The defending cav is killed and the city autorazes. Two more settler parties are dropped off, this time on the west coast. We lose a knight killing the Chinese settler pair. We lose a second knight killing the three escorts on the second party. (8-2)
Late Mil Tradition comes in. Banking at min for the moment. We need cash to upgrade our knights. We lose a redlined caravel to a Chinese frigate attack. Produce two cavs.
The Chinese complete Newtons. Our caravels are attacked three times, we sink a Greek ironclad and two Chinese frigates.
After Action Start upgrading knights and we should be ready for a cross channel invasion in another ten turns or so. Id go for a landing on one of the mountains next to a city.
We should consider building a city over there as a base.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/ANK12,_1500_AD.SAV
Early Produce a knight and two cannon. Two settler trios are dropped off on the east coast of our continent. Kill the Russian and collect two slaves. Kill one of the Greeks, we dont have enough military in former England to get the second one. (3-0)
Middle Produce two cannon, a knight and a musket. The Greeks found a city right next to our immortal. The defending cav is killed and the city autorazes. Two more settler parties are dropped off, this time on the west coast. We lose a knight killing the Chinese settler pair. We lose a second knight killing the three escorts on the second party. (8-2)
Late Mil Tradition comes in. Banking at min for the moment. We need cash to upgrade our knights. We lose a redlined caravel to a Chinese frigate attack. Produce two cavs.
The Chinese complete Newtons. Our caravels are attacked three times, we sink a Greek ironclad and two Chinese frigates.
After Action Start upgrading knights and we should be ready for a cross channel invasion in another ten turns or so. Id go for a landing on one of the mountains next to a city.
We should consider building a city over there as a base.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/ANK12,_1500_AD.SAV
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
We probably need a few more caravels.
1500-1550
The pace of Chinese and Greek landings in the homelands is increasing, one full galleon load of cavalry every other turn or so, coming from the west.
Most new cavalry production has been expended fighting off the bad guys at home.
The caravels on the east coast were sunk by Greek ironclads despite their best efforts to escape.
There are four Greek cav outside Susa. Their protecting rifle has been killed. There are three cavalry on the way home from border patrol to relieve the town.
The caravel fleet had set sail for the east loaded with Muskets and cannon. The troops have been off-loaded in the northeast tundra due to prowling ironclads.
Getting across the strait between the east coast and Russia is not going to be easy. Attempting to sail west will just run right into the Chinese and Greek fleets of frigates and 'clads.
The knight reserve has been mostly expended on bogies in the homeland.
Kill ratio not good, about 3-1.
The pace of Chinese and Greek landings in the homelands is increasing, one full galleon load of cavalry every other turn or so, coming from the west.
Most new cavalry production has been expended fighting off the bad guys at home.
The caravels on the east coast were sunk by Greek ironclads despite their best efforts to escape.
There are four Greek cav outside Susa. Their protecting rifle has been killed. There are three cavalry on the way home from border patrol to relieve the town.
The caravel fleet had set sail for the east loaded with Muskets and cannon. The troops have been off-loaded in the northeast tundra due to prowling ironclads.
Getting across the strait between the east coast and Russia is not going to be easy. Attempting to sail west will just run right into the Chinese and Greek fleets of frigates and 'clads.
The knight reserve has been mostly expended on bogies in the homeland.
Kill ratio not good, about 3-1.
Ironclads... this won't be easy, if even doable. We'll propably be able to hold our lands until the AI gets infantry, but expanding will be hard. Very hard. Do people think this is even doable anymore? And if it is, how should we proceed?
Sir Bugsy
Bede
el_filet - UP!
andvruss - on deck
Ankka
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Sir Bugsy
Bede
el_filet - UP!
andvruss - on deck
Ankka
REMEMBER: 24h to post a "got it", total 48 to post turnlog and save.
el_filet
Prince
missed that somehow
got it
got it
el_filet
Prince
haven't looked at the save yet, but from the reports i think we can't afford the long way to the E. maybe we need to wait for magnetism after all.
we'll certainly need lots of cannons to do this. i expect very slow progress or standstill until we get steam. rails will give us a small productivity boost, but we may have to research industrialization to get enough units. it will be cruicial what we get as free tech. if we get medicine, we're in trouble.
we'll certainly need lots of cannons to do this. i expect very slow progress or standstill until we get steam. rails will give us a small productivity boost, but we may have to research industrialization to get enough units. it will be cruicial what we get as free tech. if we get medicine, we're in trouble.
el_filet
Prince
1550 AD (0):
bombard clad
IBT:
lose musket (2-1)
persepolis: cav->cav (MM for 3 turns)
1555 AD (1):
kill invaders (4-1)
up science to 60% (banks in 7, -22gpt)
bomb some frigates
IBT:
lose caravel and some improvments
1560 AD (2):
rebuilding
IBT:
russians uload settler pair
bombardment
pasar: cav->musket
1565 AD (3):
switch cities to bank prebuilds
up science (in 4@70)
1575 AD (5):
try my luck with 3 can, musket, 2 cav
down science
IBT:
caravel sinks clad
1580 AD (6):
land troops
IBT:
caravel sinks frigate
bank->physics, down science, switch builds
susa: bank->caravel
1585 AD (7):
fail to raze anyang (defended by 2 reg muskets, both injured through bombardment; 8-2)
up science to 40
IBT:
lose caravel & invasion force to greeks (8-8)
why did i do that, i knew 6 units don't stand a chance
persepolis: bank->cannon
IBT:
susa: caraval->caravel
1595 AD (9):
up science
get leader from homeland cavalry, send him to capitol (10-8)
IBT:
russians land settler pair S on our continent (ex-england)
chinese invasion
persepolis: cannon->cannon
pasar: bank->cannon (with 1 slave disband in can make cav in 3 with neg food)
1600 AD (10):
kill invaders (12-8)
notes:
some workers fortified
russians around S, units were too far away
sorry for the stupid invasion, wanted to put the caravels to use, but was completly useless
we should build a stack of caravels, we need to land with a lot of units
units are as fast if sent by land
Roster:
Andvruss -> UP
Ankka -> on deck
bombard clad
IBT:
lose musket (2-1)
persepolis: cav->cav (MM for 3 turns)
1555 AD (1):
kill invaders (4-1)
up science to 60% (banks in 7, -22gpt)
bomb some frigates
IBT:
lose caravel and some improvments
1560 AD (2):
rebuilding
IBT:
russians uload settler pair
bombardment
pasar: cav->musket
1565 AD (3):
switch cities to bank prebuilds
up science (in 4@70)
1575 AD (5):
try my luck with 3 can, musket, 2 cav
down science
IBT:
caravel sinks clad
1580 AD (6):
land troops
IBT:
caravel sinks frigate
bank->physics, down science, switch builds
susa: bank->caravel
1585 AD (7):
fail to raze anyang (defended by 2 reg muskets, both injured through bombardment; 8-2)
up science to 40
IBT:
lose caravel & invasion force to greeks (8-8)
why did i do that, i knew 6 units don't stand a chance
persepolis: bank->cannon
IBT:
susa: caraval->caravel
1595 AD (9):
up science
get leader from homeland cavalry, send him to capitol (10-8)
IBT:
russians land settler pair S on our continent (ex-england)
chinese invasion
persepolis: cannon->cannon
pasar: bank->cannon (with 1 slave disband in can make cav in 3 with neg food)
1600 AD (10):
kill invaders (12-8)
notes:
some workers fortified
russians around S, units were too far away
sorry for the stupid invasion, wanted to put the caravels to use, but was completly useless
we should build a stack of caravels, we need to land with a lot of units
units are as fast if sent by land
Roster:
Andvruss -> UP
Ankka -> on deck
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Keep building vessels and an invasion force. Let's plan another attempt in 15-20 turns.
IBT: imm barely defeats attacking longbow
Russians found city on our contienent
Susa caravel-caravel
1605: Barely sink redlined galleon
IBT: Lose redlined caravel
Persepolis cannon-cannon
Parasgarade cannon-cannon
1610: Kill LB in St. Petersburg, raze the city
Reduce science 10%
Physics in 16 with +12gpt instead of in 12 with -4gpt (20 in bank)
IBT: Russians found another city on our contienent
China drops off rifle, settler and cav near Persepolis
Susa caravel-caravel
1615: Kill russian LB and raze St. Petersburg again
Cav retreats from 2hp rifle
Knight kills 2 hp rifle, -1hp
Boost sci 10%
IBT: Chinese found city on contienet. We have many frigates, ironclads, and galleons near our cities...
Parasgarade cannon-cav
1620: Barely lose cav attacking cav in city
Knight finishes it off, along with 2 boats. Raze Macao
Kill 2 hp Chinese cav 9-2
IBT: China lands a cav and settler
Get bombarded by 10 ships
Susa caravel-caravel
1625: Bombard attacking ships.
Elite cav kils 2 hp cav, -1hp. Capture settler
IBT: Lose caravel that was on the eastern side of the contienent
Persepolis cav-cav
1630: Suffle cannons around
IBT: Susa caravel-caravel
1635: Bombard ironclads
Lower science again
IBT: Greece lands 4 cavs next to Persepolis
Parasgarade cav-cav
1640: Vet cav kills vet Greek cav, -2hp
Vet cav barely loses to 3hp greek cav, promotes
Barely lose another cav to 3 hp Greek one
Vet cav kills 4 hp Greek cav, -2hp promotes
Vet cav kills 2 hp Greek cav, -2hp and promotes to elite
Vet musket flawlessly kills 1 hp cav 15-5
IBT: Bombardment destroys 3 tiles of usuable land, have to re-road and mine
Susa caravel-caravel
1645: Wake workers to work
IBT: Greeks drop off a cav and the Chiense 3 cavs at Persepolis
Persepolis cav-cav
1650: Elite cav flawlessly kills 4 hp Chinese cav
Vet cav flawlessly kills 3 hp Greek cav
Elite cav barely kills 3 hp Chinese cav
Vet cav flawlessly kills 3hp cav
We have 21 visible enemy sea units at our core
35 gold. +18gpt Physics in 3
19-5
Save
Russians found city on our contienent
Susa caravel-caravel
1605: Barely sink redlined galleon
IBT: Lose redlined caravel
Persepolis cannon-cannon
Parasgarade cannon-cannon
1610: Kill LB in St. Petersburg, raze the city
Reduce science 10%
Physics in 16 with +12gpt instead of in 12 with -4gpt (20 in bank)
IBT: Russians found another city on our contienent
China drops off rifle, settler and cav near Persepolis
Susa caravel-caravel
1615: Kill russian LB and raze St. Petersburg again
Cav retreats from 2hp rifle
Knight kills 2 hp rifle, -1hp
Boost sci 10%
IBT: Chinese found city on contienet. We have many frigates, ironclads, and galleons near our cities...
Parasgarade cannon-cav
1620: Barely lose cav attacking cav in city
Knight finishes it off, along with 2 boats. Raze Macao
Kill 2 hp Chinese cav 9-2
IBT: China lands a cav and settler
Get bombarded by 10 ships
Susa caravel-caravel
1625: Bombard attacking ships.
Elite cav kils 2 hp cav, -1hp. Capture settler
IBT: Lose caravel that was on the eastern side of the contienent
Persepolis cav-cav
1630: Suffle cannons around
IBT: Susa caravel-caravel
1635: Bombard ironclads
Lower science again
IBT: Greece lands 4 cavs next to Persepolis
Parasgarade cav-cav
1640: Vet cav kills vet Greek cav, -2hp
Vet cav barely loses to 3hp greek cav, promotes
Barely lose another cav to 3 hp Greek one
Vet cav kills 4 hp Greek cav, -2hp promotes
Vet cav kills 2 hp Greek cav, -2hp and promotes to elite
Vet musket flawlessly kills 1 hp cav 15-5
IBT: Bombardment destroys 3 tiles of usuable land, have to re-road and mine
Susa caravel-caravel
1645: Wake workers to work
IBT: Greeks drop off a cav and the Chiense 3 cavs at Persepolis
Persepolis cav-cav
1650: Elite cav flawlessly kills 4 hp Chinese cav
Vet cav flawlessly kills 3 hp Greek cav
Elite cav barely kills 3 hp Chinese cav
Vet cav flawlessly kills 3hp cav
We have 21 visible enemy sea units at our core
35 gold. +18gpt Physics in 3
19-5
Save
el_filet
Prince
vote to go ahead
i'm not sure we can, but i refuse to give up already. during my turns homeland defense was doing ok, from andvruss report i'd that hasn't changed. we need to land a huge stack on the other continent, if we manage to get a foothold there, we can do it. biggest obstacle is the navy, but sending the two caravels over worked surprisingly well. infanteries is the other point, but i can't tell when we gonna face them (it's unlikely all three oppponents got rubber).
i'm not sure we can, but i refuse to give up already. during my turns homeland defense was doing ok, from andvruss report i'd that hasn't changed. we need to land a huge stack on the other continent, if we manage to get a foothold there, we can do it. biggest obstacle is the navy, but sending the two caravels over worked surprisingly well. infanteries is the other point, but i can't tell when we gonna face them (it's unlikely all three oppponents got rubber).
