Ank10 - 3CC AWM

[grs]

What should we use the leader for? I guess another sword army would do good... or should we snag a wonder?

I would say an MDI army - this is PTW Ankka

If grs can play today, he's up.

I can play tonight, so you can pick it up on Sunday, so I got it.

Edrine can also use an aqueduct when you can spare the shields.

It has fresh water, if I am not mistaken, but we should get up libraries and markets in all cities. Shall I do that first in favour of advancing?

Edit: wow, this game really looks bad. We have a good chance to lose 5 workers and 3 slaves on the IBT. 1 unfortified pike on grassland has to defend vs 2 swords Let's pray Hannibal does not disband them

I have no clue how to get Selim home in decent time; shall I risk it to let him run on his own towards the road that connects our wines? Does the AI have units in that area?

 

[grs]

@Ankka: I have to stay in my original place, so please take it before me, as is the usual order and I will play after you.

 

[Ankka]

450AD [Preturn]: Have a look around...

The situation isn't too good. Let's hope the RNG is with us and the pike over the workers survives the possible attacks of the 2 swords and the NuMerc.

IBT: The NuMerc passes by and moves West... but the first sword attacks, and ou pike is helpless and loses taking off only 1 hp. We lose something like 7 slaves... well, we get 4gpt back. But the slaves are killed. Those Carthaginians must pay for this atrocity! They won't kill our people just like that! (0-5)

Istanbul MDI > MDI.

460AD [1]: Kill a NuMerc with a brand new MDI. (1-5)

IBT: The 2 Carth Swords attack the 2-hp vet MDI, but we win and are promoted to vet.

Bizzy wants peace. No way.

A vet spear on mountain kills an attacking vet sword.

Argh, an English horse kills the 1-hp elite MDI. (4-6)

Bursa cat > horse.

470AD [2]: I remember someone's sig saing "When you are lacking everything, you know you're in combat" or something like that. Seems that we are in combat. Because we're lacking units big time. We have cats to bombard but not enough units to kill the wounded or exposed enemies.

Bombard and kill the English horse with an elite one. (5-6)

Elite sword loses to reg NuMerc.
Elite sword kills reg NuMerc.
Vet sword kills the redlined NuMerc and we get 2 slaves from a settler... but a reg MDI is in sihgt and our sword is exposed... oops. (7-6)

IBT: We lose the sword to the MDI. (7-7)

More troops pour to Edrine.

Edrine MDI > MDI.

480AD [3]: Bombard and kill an English settler pair.

MDI from Edrine kills a German horse.
Elite horse kills a German archer. (10-6)

Selim and group continue the trip towards home.

The slaves and the sword escape from the wrath of the MDI.


IBT: The MDI is redlined, but barely wins our sword on mountain. The slaves are saved for a while.. (10-7)

Istanbul MDI > MDI.

490AD [4]: Take a risk and move Selimn alone 3 moves to a Mountain... and he is safe until next turn, at least.

Vet MDI kills an archer.
Elite horse kills a second archer. (12-7)

IBT: NuMerc kills itself on our MDI, which is promoted to elite.
And an Aztec archer likes getting cut into pieces by a horseman. No wounds to us. (14-7)

Bursa horse > horse.

Korens build the Great Lighthouse.

500AD [5]: Elite MDI and horse kill archers and for the first time in some centuries there are no bogies around Edrine.
And vet horse from Bursa kils an Aztec horse on a mountain.

And I wonder why there is a horse sleeping in Bursa, move to the front.

Selim continues his dangerous trip without danger. In some turns he will meet the horses from Bursa.

Notice a horse at the wine colony, he goes to escort Selim.

Kill 2 Spanish units in the South. (19-7)

IBT: 2 English MDI's come from the South.

510AD [6]: Elite MDI and horse kill the 2 MDI's. (21-7)

A scouting horse sees 2 Numidian Mercenaries a bit too late.

IBT: The NuMerc's think our horse is a piece of cake, but he was on a hill and kills the 2 attacking foes. (23-7)

Istanbul MDI > MDI.

520AD [7]: Elite MDI kills 1-hp spear. (24-7)

Selim is almost home... but where will we find a city to capture for the army?

The Carth ones are a bit too tough... but there could be a nice Spanish one near the Southern camp which could be attacked from a hill. Let's try it.

IBT: Many MDI's seen at the former eacort of Selim.

Edrine MDI > MDI.
Bursa horse > horse.

530AD [8]: Selim got home safely. Now just need to capture a city...

Set Edrine to growth and the scientist to Istanbul.

IBT: Lose a vet sword to an archer over a river. (24-8)

Some English units approach.

We get Theology.

540AD [9]: Kill the 3 Englsh intruders.

Kill a German spear on a hill. (28-8)

IBT: Spear on mountain kills English MDI. (29-8)

Istanbul MDI > MDI.

550AD [10]: The Spanish built a town just beside where our units stood a turn ago in the South. Turn back.

Vet horse kills reg sword. Vet MDI kills German spear on a hill.
(31-8)


Notes: capture the town and form a MDI army.

IMHO fast units are better to used in the East, where roads are scarce. Slowmovers can use the road south to get there faster.

Fight holding action in the east, and try and get rid of Lizzy... She's gained power.

Some screenies to the lurkers:

East:


South:








Sir Bugsy - played before Ankka
grs - UP!
Bede - on deck
andvruss
Ankka - just played

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And save to next better player.

 

[grs]

And save to next better player.

No one available, so I take it, ok?

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Bad move on my part placing those workers in danger. Good recovery Ankka! Very good job getting the leader home.

 

[grs]

560AD: Cats go 1/4, we kill a Spanish spear and we autoraze Vitoria - no army . Kill 1 Aztech archer (2-0).

IBT: Lose a worker. Catharge lands a sword near Istanbul (2-1).

570AD: Kill an English MDI (3-1).

IBT: Catharge sword pillages. English MDI kills spear. Korea lands a settler spear pair south of Edrine (3-2).

580AD: Wang Kong misses literature, republic and construction. Get 6 gold change for trading maps and declare. MDI kills german archer. Disband our galley. MDI kills English MDI. 2 MDI kill 2 German swords. MDI loses to German Catharge pillaging sword (7-3).

IBT: Lose an MDI to an Aztech archer (7-4).

590AD: 2 horses kill an English MDI and an English archer (9-4).

IBT: ..

600AD: 2 horses kill an Aztech and an English archer (11-4).

IBT: ..

610AD: 3 MDI kill a Catharge sword, a Korean settler/spear pair and an Aztech archer. Horse kills an English spear (16-4).

IBT: Catharge finishes Sun Tzu's.

620AD: ..

IBT: Lose a MDI. Defend vs. another (17-5).

630AD: 2 Horses kill 2 German MDI. MDI kills German MDI (20-5).

IBT: Korea lands a warrior. Defend vs a Catharge sword and lose another (21-6).

640AD: Horse kills Catharge MDI. MDI kills Korean warrior. (23-6).

IBT: Korea lands sword/spear.

650AD: MDI kills archer. MDI loses to archer . Horse kills that archer (25-7).

I do not think we can make it to Sipahi and we can't make it without them. East is pretty much lost. I saved some units inside the colony, but Catharge broke through. We won't get the next Spanish city soon, because jungle stops our cats. We retook incense and the road to the south though.

 

[Bede]

Ouch.

We'll get there, but how?

Got it.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Have faith. We may have to turtle a bit and invest in some infrastructure. We can do it.

Turtle, establish some stationary fronts to keep the number of AI cities down, and then build an expeditionary force to take out one AI civ at a time. If I hadn't lost us a bunch of workers we could better build some fortifications.

 

[Bede]

Exactly what I 'm trying to do.

Taking it on the chin right now as everybody is sending troops and settlers at us, and the kill ratio is at best 1-1, but ew're nor falling behind. Towns are pretty productive and I think we are still out producing the local guys. Germany is another problem.

ANd I just noticed Korea is on an island....

 

[Sir Bugsy]

And I just noticed Korea is on an island....

Good thing we're playing on a panagea.

At least we only have one civ off continent. In DI1 we had two. Just be ready for a steady stream of vessels floating up to our backdoor once their production is up.

 

[Ankka]

IIRC there was a way to the next Spanish city that cats could take.

A 4th city is a must now.

And grs is up in Ank11.

Bugsy and Bede said it all, actually. Listen to the pro's.

 

[Bede]

650AD
I know archers are not popular among some, but we can use them for ugrade to longbows, and that 4-attack sure looks handy covered by pikes. Archers are cheap right now and we can get a few between now and Invention. Experience proved this was an idea that was really bad....

Wake up a worker and build a gems colony on the road south.

Looking at the situation south, it appears that moving into Spanish homelands is a non-starter what with jungles blocking the artillery. If I turn attention to the west and head into England there is at least one town that will let us build an army.

Do a some citizen retasking to get 10spt minimums and boost the income. Start the slaves back from the wines colony to put a fortress on the iron hill outside the borders of Edrine.Horse running recon uncovers a german spear wandering in the woods, must be Hansel looking for Gretel?

Cathaginians certainly seem to spawning like salmon in the southeast.

English MDI come running up the road from the south and wipe out the front end of the expedition, capturing three slaves.

Koreans threaten Edrine.

660AD
Dispatch the offending English with cat fire and the elite horse and an MDI and find another English. Cover the MDI with the pike on the colony and hope he waits for reinforcement. Otherwise he gets the pike, and the wounded archers will get the cats and the colony.

Hansel is looking for Hans, there is another German spear wandering up the road.

Dispatch the Koreans and occupy the fortress on the road from Edrine.

The Southern force moves back toward England.

Kill ratio is 3-2.

A NuMerc is creeping toward Istanbul

Pike whups English MDI on the Jungle road. 4-2

Korean horse and settler are landed south of Edrine. Positioning the Southern force to capture Reading (pop2), ignore Spanish and Enlgish archers.

NuMerc takes up residence in the fortress east of Istanbul.

670AD
Cats, pike, horse and MDI roll down the jungle road and the slaves boogy towards home.


German MDI appears from the SE heading for the incense colony.

680AD
There are lots of German baddies heading for the incense colony. Cats miss.

NuMerc moves off his perch and eats a newly produced MDI and is finished off by archer.

Germans build Sistines Chapel.

Germans attack Incense colony and kill the defending pike.

690AD
Lose a horse killing three Germans and move cats and swords above Reading after killing English bowman

Kill most of the Carthaginians at Edrine but the surviving archer cuts the lux road and Istanbul riots.

700AD

Kill an Aztec settler pair and move on down the road. Put cats and swords in position at Reading but advance cat bombardment is a failure against pikes. English MDI were seen heading north.

Capture Korean settler pair but horseman escapes. Kill the offending archer at Edrine, then swap Istanbul's build to a worker to replace the road and relieve some populaation pressure.

Raise lux to 20%.

Carthage lands an MDI at Edrine and the Koreans drop spear/sword off at Istanbul.

English MDI and archer seen leaving Reading appear on jungle road.

710AD
Southbound expedition pulls back to gems colony.

Cats at Reading go 1-4 and at least two pikes are in the garrison and only two swords to attack. Hold for now.

Then try to figure out what to do about the bogies inbound.

Kill a German MDI inbound to the spices.

720AD
Kill two Carthaginans and wound an English MDI. Attack at Reading is stalled for he moment as the cats got the range and hurt a pike but then killed a citizen.

Two German MDI, one wounded are on top of the incense colony. Workers are frantically building a fortress. There are cats and two horses fortified on the colony. Cross fingers and hope it holds. No way to reinforce.

This was a bad year. Both the incense colony and the gems colony were lost along with the defenders, cats and workers.

730AD
Not much better. Kill two Germans but lose an archer. Fortress completes on plains. There is one Korean in the forest north of Istanbul on a pillaging mission, and an Aztec spearman making a small nuisance of himself.

740AD
Remove the Aztec and Germans from within the borders, there are two Germans on the edge of the territory and a NuMerc hanging about in the east.

Force at Reading does not much more than harass the pike in the town.

Two English MDI attack fortress on southern border and die.


750AD

Turtling up to protect the southern border.

Once the three English MDI in the mountains south and the three Germans east are dealt with the incursions should be little more than a trickle. Once the coast is clear I would build another fortress in the forest east of Edrine.

Invention is due in two so maybe we can use Selem to build Leo's workshop in Bursa. He's been hiding out there.

The only thing the force at Reading has beeen able to accomplish is little more than harassment, but I don't know what else to do with them.

If we can put cats, horses and pikes into the funnel in the east then we can turn attention south.

I lost track of the kill ratio but it was not much more than 2-1

The Funnel of Fun:

 

[Ankka]

Looks like it's getting rough. I hope the AI researches Gunpowder before education...


Sir Bugsy
grs
Bede
andvruss - UP!
Ankka - on deck

REMEMBER: 24h to post a "got it", total 48 to post turnlog and save.

 

[andvruss]

Got it. /////////

 

[Sir Bugsy]

This is much harder than the last one. We can do it though. We're already much better off than DI1. We may want to set up a second funnel down by Edrine. See how the prevailing AI winds blow and then build forts to parallel the winds.

I'd go for Leo's with the leader.

 

[andvruss]

Will post tomorrow.

 

[Ankka]

Andvruss? Time limit is here... if you haven't posted in 8 hours I'll play it.

 

[andvruss]

Sorry for delay

Pre- MM our cities for maximum commerce without losing shields

IBT: 4 Enlgish MDIs move onto mountain next to stack of MDI/cats
Galleys move arond
2 German MDIs appear at Edrine

760AD: Vet MDI barely kills vet German MDI out of Bursa
Horse rereats to MDI, -2hp to MDI
3 hp horse barely finishes off the MDI

IBT: Germand MDI pillages road in the south
Germans land warrior and spear at Istanbul
2 more English MDIs appear
MDI attacks our stack south, loses to sword, -2hp
We learn Invention-Gunpowder at 10%. At 90%, we would get it in 33
Istanbul pike-MDI
Edrine cat-cat
Bursa MDI-pike

770:Horse kills 2 hp MDI, -1hp
Vet MDI barely kills NuMed at Istanbul
Rush Leos in Bursa

IBT: MDI dies attacking Edrine, -2hp to pike
LB attacks our stack south, elite sword wins
MDI attackls elite spear at wines colony. We win, -2hp
2 MDI and 1 horse, German, appear now east edrine
Busa Leo-pike

780: Lose horse, redlining a MDI. First loss
MDI kills speat at Istanbul, -1hp
Vet MDI flawlessly kills a horse
3 hp horse dies to 1 hp MDI
Vet MDI barely kills vet MDI, promotes
Archer flawlessly kills warrior at Istanbul, promotes to elite
Lose horse to spear at funnel

IBT: Our stack in the south is attacked by 2 hp MDI, lose 3 hp elite sword. Another MDI attacks, flawlessly beats our elite sword and it is no more .
We had no chance, the south is crawling, as the push us back
Germans drop a horse at Istanbul
Edrine cat-cat

790: Horse barel kills 2 hp MDI
Lose MDI to another MDI , redlining it.
Lose archer to reg horse
3 hp MDI finishes it off

IBT: Germans drop off archer.
Acher pillages road at Edrine
Aztecs found a city next to colony. We lose wines.Istanbul riots
3 archers appear at Edrine

800: Kill warrior at Istanbul
Refound colony, as horse kills spear, razing the offending city, -2hp

IBT: The flow of units is increasing. 3 spanish archers appear, English drop off a MDI at Istanbul
MDI forces horse to retreat
2 Germand MDI and 2 more archers appear

810: Finally kill an offending 1 hp MDI on mountain withelite MDI
MDI does 1 hp damage, but dies to NuMed at Istanbul
Vet MDI barely kills that unit

IBT: More english MDI appear
Hold wines colony against MDI
We learn education from GL

820: Elite MDI kills 3 hp MDI, -1hp
Horse barely kills horse west of Istanbul
Vet MDI kills archer, -1hp
Vet horse dies to 1 hp MDI

IBT: Surprise, more English MDIs appear
Hold colony against vet MDI, -2hp to elite spear
Edrine cat-cat

830: Vet MDI kills spear, -2hp
Shuffle units

IBT: Germans drop off spear and sword
2 Carthaginian MDI appear
Istanbul MDI-MDI
bursa horse-horse

840: Area of Edrine finally clears up, so after killing a MDI and archer, I retreat MDI and cat back to Edrine. Our southern task group set to relieve the south consists of 1 MDI now
Vet MDI barely kills spear
Vet MDI kills archer at Istanbul, -1hp
Horse retreats to sword, -3hp
Vet MDI kills archer, -1hp

IBT: Everything starts to collapse this IBT.
4 carthaginian MDI, 3 Germand MDI and 3 english MDI appear at our borders appear at our borders
Lose horse at incense colony
Barely defeat MDI at incense colony with elite spear. We have a 1hp speaar there now
the funnel collapses as the elite spear loses to vet MDI
Lose horse to sword, -1hp for sword

850: Vet MDI barely kills sword at Istanbul
Horse is flawlessly defeated by VEt MDI
Flawlessly kill 2 Spanish archers


The worst set of turns so far: 2-1 kill ratio, if that
We are being pushed back everywhere, as the AI expands madly. I think we missed the oppurtunity at the beginning.
Our eastern front is being pressed, and w have no fortifications there.
I hope someone will be able to dig out of this hole I set up

Save

 

[grs]

The biggest problem imho, is not getting chivalry and knights in time. We speculated to get it from the GL, but no one researched it.

 

[Ankka]

Yeah. The AI was too smart and researcher Education first... gah.

Oh well.. let's get gunpowder and then knights. or should we change to chivalry now that we aren't so many turns into gp?

Got it


EDIT: playing now, and at least we know where Korea is.