Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Keep at the Russians. If we can get this down to two AI, it will be a fair fight. DOn't even worry about stopping the landing fleets until we get frigates.
Ank12 - A little Furball? - 3CC AW Redux
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el_filet
Prince
got it, will probably play tonight
el_filet
Prince
sorry guys, i won't be able to finish this one in time
1150AD [preturn]: Land a few troops from a boat at Russia. Check out the situation. Bede and Bugsy recovered well from my 
ings.
IBT: Russian longbow makes one of our knights retreat. Then a Greek knight kills it. Another knight retreats, too. (0-1)
The Chinese land 3 riders near Susa.
1160AD [1]: Slice one of the riders, the Greek knight and the two longbows. (4-1)
IBT: Chinese riders don't attack.. they just go around Susa. a Greek knight and longbow land at Susa.
Greeks complete Smith's in Thermopylae.
1170AD [2]: Need two knights to kill one of the Riders. (5-2)
IBT: It appears the Greeks are a lot more aggressive than the Chinese. They attack Susa immidiately, but are both sent home in small bits... also a knight in Russia tries to attack Immortals guarding iron. It appears the Chinese rider was after our slaves in the open,,, but wasn't fast enough. Didn't catch them this turn, and next turn he shall die...(8-2)
1180AD [3]: 2 immos manage to kill only one ofthe spears in Macao. Kill 2 longbows in Russia. Artillery is useful and needed. (11-3)
IBT: A Russian longbow manages to kill one of our immortals on Iron Mountain. Fortified. Over river. (11-4)
1190AD [4]: Immortals kill one more spear in Macao... and another one is in sight. (12-4)
1200AD [5]: Lose another immortal attacking Macao. A tough nut, I must say. (12-5)
IBT: We lose a second tight battle at Iron mountain.
Chinese make yet another landing at Susa. This time only one rider.
1210AD [6]: Kill a couple of settler pairs, the rider and a longbow (16-5)
1220AD [7] - 1230AD [8]: Approaching St. Petersburg.
1240AD [9]: All five cats miss at St. Petersburg. No attack. Continue siege.
1250AD [10]: Bombard St. Petersburg, and some citizens are killed and defences take some damage. Kill one of the three riders, retreat another one, and lose a knight.
I'll let next player to decide whether to attack St. Petersburg now or not. Note that they have muskets, too.
Situations.
Russia
Homeland
Who wants it, gets it.
Sir Bugsy
Bede
el_filet
andvruss
Ankka
REMEMBER: 24h to post a "got it", total 48 to post turnlog and save.
And the save to next better player.
ings. IBT: Russian longbow makes one of our knights retreat. Then a Greek knight kills it. Another knight retreats, too. (0-1)
The Chinese land 3 riders near Susa.
1160AD [1]: Slice one of the riders, the Greek knight and the two longbows. (4-1)
IBT: Chinese riders don't attack.. they just go around Susa. a Greek knight and longbow land at Susa.
Greeks complete Smith's in Thermopylae.
1170AD [2]: Need two knights to kill one of the Riders. (5-2)
IBT: It appears the Greeks are a lot more aggressive than the Chinese. They attack Susa immidiately, but are both sent home in small bits... also a knight in Russia tries to attack Immortals guarding iron. It appears the Chinese rider was after our slaves in the open,,, but wasn't fast enough. Didn't catch them this turn, and next turn he shall die...(8-2)
1180AD [3]: 2 immos manage to kill only one ofthe spears in Macao. Kill 2 longbows in Russia. Artillery is useful and needed. (11-3)
IBT: A Russian longbow manages to kill one of our immortals on Iron Mountain. Fortified. Over river. (11-4)
1190AD [4]: Immortals kill one more spear in Macao... and another one is in sight. (12-4)
1200AD [5]: Lose another immortal attacking Macao. A tough nut, I must say. (12-5)
IBT: We lose a second tight battle at Iron mountain.
Chinese make yet another landing at Susa. This time only one rider.
1210AD [6]: Kill a couple of settler pairs, the rider and a longbow (16-5)
1220AD [7] - 1230AD [8]: Approaching St. Petersburg.
1240AD [9]: All five cats miss at St. Petersburg. No attack. Continue siege.
1250AD [10]: Bombard St. Petersburg, and some citizens are killed and defences take some damage. Kill one of the three riders, retreat another one, and lose a knight.
I'll let next player to decide whether to attack St. Petersburg now or not. Note that they have muskets, too.
Situations.
Russia
Homeland
Who wants it, gets it.
Sir Bugsy
Bede
el_filet
andvruss
Ankka
REMEMBER: 24h to post a "got it", total 48 to post turnlog and save.
And the save to next better player.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
The Russians have a lot of culture to wade through. Protect our cats at all costs.
I played five and am passing it on as we need a rethink and repositioning.
Here's my assessment: we have now hit the 3CC wall. Expensive MA techs: Chem, Metal and MilTrad are needed and we lack the core wealth production to learn them in a reasonable time and stilll have cash in the kitty. And it is only going to get worse.
I could not hold on the island. The Greeks started sending cavalry at the Cat and knight force and the Russians kept rebuilding a town on the road to the coast and the force was gone before I could get to safety.
Then the Greeks and Chinese built towns : Greeks west and Chinese north of Perspolis. and it took all the knights produced to finsih off the Chinese Riders, and wreck the Greek town near our closest saltpeter site.
So, we need cannon and cavalry to do this job.
Sent the ships to pick up the forces on the little island in the south and at least get them started towards home.
Here's my thinking: Turn up the bunsen burners and learn late MA warfare techs, Metal and MilTrad and Magnetism. Build a bigger and better fleet, then
invade the other island from the east. Establish a beachhead there, with fortresses if necessary, then think about founding a town. It will mean abandoning Susa, but will give us place to heal troops and also get unload and roll effectives. As it stands the wade ashore technique is leaving the reinforcements vulnerable to whatever comes up the pike. Even if they are not killed the time to heal in neutral ground is just too great and the oppo keeps sending something, even if it is only a longbow, which only prologns the healing. And so on and so forth.
Here's the rub, we generate 82-139 beakers (breakeven (+5) to breakneck (-33)) so we are ~50 turns to getting the knowledge we need to make an effective attack overseas. Meanwhile we need to keep the other guys off the landmass, or at least bottled up, which is going to take most of our current military and whatever we can build.
So, we need to get really creative here.....Right now I'm stumped.
Here's my assessment: we have now hit the 3CC wall. Expensive MA techs: Chem, Metal and MilTrad are needed and we lack the core wealth production to learn them in a reasonable time and stilll have cash in the kitty. And it is only going to get worse.
I could not hold on the island. The Greeks started sending cavalry at the Cat and knight force and the Russians kept rebuilding a town on the road to the coast and the force was gone before I could get to safety.
Then the Greeks and Chinese built towns : Greeks west and Chinese north of Perspolis. and it took all the knights produced to finsih off the Chinese Riders, and wreck the Greek town near our closest saltpeter site.
So, we need cannon and cavalry to do this job.
Sent the ships to pick up the forces on the little island in the south and at least get them started towards home.
Here's my thinking: Turn up the bunsen burners and learn late MA warfare techs, Metal and MilTrad and Magnetism. Build a bigger and better fleet, then
invade the other island from the east. Establish a beachhead there, with fortresses if necessary, then think about founding a town. It will mean abandoning Susa, but will give us place to heal troops and also get unload and roll effectives. As it stands the wade ashore technique is leaving the reinforcements vulnerable to whatever comes up the pike. Even if they are not killed the time to heal in neutral ground is just too great and the oppo keeps sending something, even if it is only a longbow, which only prologns the healing. And so on and so forth.
Here's the rub, we generate 82-139 beakers (breakeven (+5) to breakneck (-33)) so we are ~50 turns to getting the knowledge we need to make an effective attack overseas. Meanwhile we need to keep the other guys off the landmass, or at least bottled up, which is going to take most of our current military and whatever we can build.
So, we need to get really creative here.....Right now I'm stumped.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Establishing a town on the other continent has many benefits. The question now is how do we increase our beaker output? I suppose it comes down to cash.
Keeping our landmass clear is plenty at the moment.
Keeping our landmass clear is plenty at the moment.
I agree. If Greece has cavalry, we have no chances if we don't too.
Use our military to keep the AI's out and don't even try to attack the other island before cavalry... it will slow us down a little, but it is the only chance. This continental map is killing us.
Note: I will be away until 1st of January.
Use our military to keep the AI's out and don't even try to attack the other island before cavalry... it will slow us down a little, but it is the only chance. This continental map is killing us.
Note: I will be away until 1st of January.
el_filet
Prince
i got it...
el_filet
Prince
can't make it in time means not within the 48 hours. not sure this one is finished in time...
1300 AD (0):
not looking as good as last time i saw it
...all that because the mapgen doesn't understand the meaning of pangea 
stop science until uni is finished
1305 AD (1):
science to max, chemistry in 4
1315 AD (3):
destroy invader on island, got 2 more slaves to cover the whole island now
1320 AD (4):
greeks from S
IBT:
chinese land invasion force (3 units)
chemistry in->metallurgy
1325 AD (5):
kill all invaders, lose a knight
set science to 80, -21 gpt for 11 turns
1330 AD (6):
reduce science to save some money for upgrades
IBT (1335 AD):
chengdu finishes bach
greeks are building newton
1340 AD (8):
autoraze shangtung
IBT:
greeks land sword
1345 AD (9):
raze macao
kill invader
notes:
stopping science wasn't such a good idea, but shouldn't hurt us
built court in pasargadae and started one in suse (pasar: 3 turn knight without MM, hope for the same in susa)
most knights in capitol
our landmass cleaned - for now
1300 AD (0):
not looking as good as last time i saw it
...all that because the mapgen doesn't understand the meaning of pangea stop science until uni is finished
1305 AD (1):
science to max, chemistry in 4
1315 AD (3):
destroy invader on island, got 2 more slaves to cover the whole island now
1320 AD (4):
greeks from S
IBT:
chinese land invasion force (3 units)
chemistry in->metallurgy
1325 AD (5):
kill all invaders, lose a knight
set science to 80, -21 gpt for 11 turns
1330 AD (6):
reduce science to save some money for upgrades
IBT (1335 AD):
chengdu finishes bach
greeks are building newton
1340 AD (8):
autoraze shangtung
IBT:
greeks land sword
1345 AD (9):
raze macao
kill invader
notes:
stopping science wasn't such a good idea, but shouldn't hurt us
built court in pasargadae and started one in suse (pasar: 3 turn knight without MM, hope for the same in susa)
most knights in capitol
our landmass cleaned - for now
el_filet
Prince
to get met&MT we need ~25 turns of research (we will have to reduce it further, but wanted to hurry met to build/upgrade some cannons). upgrading some ships to galleon wouldn't hurt either, but probaly takes to much time. so i'd say 30 turns minimum, probably more.
if we decide to use galleons we should call back our fleet to susa. since we want go W, i should have done that anyway.
if we decide to use galleons we should call back our fleet to susa. since we want go W, i should have done that anyway.
Pre: MM for income
IBT: Paras knight-knight
1355: nothing
IBT: Paras knight-musket
1360. Caravel attacks galley, loses, -1hp to galley and promotes
IBT: China lands a cav..:/
Susa court-caravel
China starts Newtons
1365: Vet caravel flawlessly kills 4 hp galley
Lose 1 knight to cav, -1hp to cav, but second night flawlessly finishes it off,
IBT: Pers knight-knight
1370: Blockade our bay with 2 caravels
IBT: Parasgarade musket-musket
Susa caravel-caravel
1375: Reduce science, Metallurgy in 3
IBT: Greek frigate appears
1380: Shuffle units around
IBT: Our caravel kills the attacking frigate,loses 1 hp
Pers knight-knight
Susa carvel-musket
1385: nothing of importance
IBT: We learn metallurgy-military tradition
Parasgarade musket-cannon
1390: Sci at 60%, MilTrad in 14 with -14gpt
IBT: Caravel barely kills attacking frigate
1395: move a caravel up to others
IBT: Pers knight-knight
Parasgarade cannon-cannon
Susa musket-cannon
Mil Trad in 12 with -17gpt and 71 gold in the bank.
Save
IBT: Paras knight-knight
1355: nothing
IBT: Paras knight-musket
1360. Caravel attacks galley, loses, -1hp to galley and promotes
IBT: China lands a cav..:/
Susa court-caravel
China starts Newtons
1365: Vet caravel flawlessly kills 4 hp galley
Lose 1 knight to cav, -1hp to cav, but second night flawlessly finishes it off,
IBT: Pers knight-knight
1370: Blockade our bay with 2 caravels
IBT: Parasgarade musket-musket
Susa caravel-caravel
1375: Reduce science, Metallurgy in 3
IBT: Greek frigate appears
1380: Shuffle units around
IBT: Our caravel kills the attacking frigate,loses 1 hp
Pers knight-knight
Susa carvel-musket
1385: nothing of importance
IBT: We learn metallurgy-military tradition
Parasgarade musket-cannon
1390: Sci at 60%, MilTrad in 14 with -14gpt
IBT: Caravel barely kills attacking frigate
1395: move a caravel up to others
IBT: Pers knight-knight
Parasgarade cannon-cannon
Susa musket-cannon
Mil Trad in 12 with -17gpt and 71 gold in the bank.
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