Black Friday

Manfred Belheim said:
I did wonder myself, but then Mise wasn't making that comparison either, he was just the one saying that I was. I've got no idea basically.

Anyway, all I was doing was saying that I find it to be something that annoys me personally, I wasn't trying to educate anyone about a universal truth. My China analogy was only meant to maybe give an example that might help someone else see why I find it annoying, but the specifics of it in and of themselves are entirely irrelevant so it just seems a waste of time to argue the minute details of how a national anthem is not PRECISELY analogous to a school dance or whatever. And again, it's only my personal feelings about such things so it's of no matter to me what lots of other people do in another country. So enjoy your Black Friday. Peace, out.
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You too.

(bolded what I was agreeing with there to avoid any misunderstandings)
 
Zack said:
How is prom/black Friday equivalent to singing the US national anthem in school and celebrating Obama's birthday, then? It's still ridiculous.
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Are you talking about American children singing the US national anthem and celebrating Obama's birthday?

:wallbash:

I really don't get the confusion here. I'm talking about people in one country suddenly aping another country and copying their customs. It's a really, really simple point I'm making, and the analogy was a really, really simple one as well. It's fine if you don't personally find that annoying and don't agree with me, I was just expressing my opinion and not trying to force it on anyone. But it's really not fine if you genuinely still can't even slightly comprehend what it even is that I find annoying (here's a clue, it ISN'T about celebrating the birthdays of political figures).

But... I said I'd drop it, so... *drops*. If you still don't get it maybe you can meditate on it and you might gain an understanding in time. Or at the very least, since I'll stop replying now, you can have the pleasure of having the last word in this thread and calling me a ridiculous buffoon or something. Enjoy :)
 
Why did you ask us to imagine celebrating the birthday of a political figure, and in particular one that's famously Communist, if it was about neither celebrating birthdays nor communism?

I think we all understood you just fine until you started comparing our nation suddenly celebrating the architect of one of the most devastating and deadly famines in living memory to an imported tradition wherein a few large retailers offer deep discounts on consumer goods.
 
Mise said:
Why did you ask us to imagine celebrating the birthday of a political figure, in particular the founder of Communist China, if it was about neither celebrating birthdays nor communism?

I think we all understood you just fine until you started comparing celebrating the birth of the architect of one of the most devastating and deadly famines in living memory to a high school prom.
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I understood him...the question is why take something celebrated in one country and start celebrating it in another? The specific examples may have been extreme, perhaps even intentionally so, but it is still a pretty sensible question.
 
Well, why not?

Black Friday is dumb, but it's dumb entirely on its own merits, not because it comes from another country. It's a cosmopolitan dumbness.
 
Because it's fun? Because it's profitable? Because people like getting stuff for 40% off? I don't see why I need to imagine celebrating Mao's birthday to either ask or answer those questions.

And "I feel about Black Friday the way you might feel about celebrating Mao's birthday" is simply not a sensible thing to say...
 
Traitorfish said:
Well, why not?

Black Friday is dumb, but it's dumb entirely on its own merits, not because it comes from another country. It's a cosmopolitan dumbness.
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I suppose, celebrating Mao's birthday would be dumb entirely on its own merits too, so the comparison is actually quite apt. He was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people, so celebrating his birth would be utterly abhorrent and reprehensible. I would be opposed to it entirely on its own merit.

What I certainly wouldn't be thinking is that I shouldn't celebrate his birthday because he's foreign. Of all the reasons not to celebrate Mao's birthday, the fact that he is not British is pretty low down on the list.
 
Well, Black Friday has passed.

There's always such a letdown after the holidays, don't you find?

We must resolve to keep the spirit of Black Friday in our hearts all year, I say.
 
Well, I got sucked into it. I now have four more games from Big Fish Games. They had a BOGO sale.
 
I didn't do any shopping on Black Friday. I thought the 4 AM openings were silly enough, but the 6 PM Thanksgiving Day ones are even worse. So, even though I probably would have bought some items that I was low on had it been a regular Friday, I made a point of not buying them on Black Friday so as not to contribute to sales. And also to avoid the inevitable crowds and sleep-deprived drivers.

Online I'm more okay with, particularly for digital items. The retail part of it has a sour taste now that I know people who miss out on Thanksgiving due to working that night or very early the next morning, though.
 
I bought, at the behest of some #fiftychat denizens, a game called "Papers, Please" from GOG for $9.99. That was the extent of my participation with Black Friday or Cyber Monday or Small Business Saturday or whatever. Well... I did go to the grocery store on Saturday, but I didn't catch much on sale.
 
bhsup said:
I bought, at the behest of some #fiftychat denizens, a game called "Papers, Please" from GOG for $9.99. That was the extent of my participation with Black Friday or Cyber Monday or Small Business Saturday or whatever. Well... I did go to the grocery store on Saturday, but I didn't catch much on sale.
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Papers, Please? So how many drug runners and terrorists got by you while you were detaining the human traffickers and inspecting their sex slaves?
 
I haven't actually played it yet. Much like the vast majority of my steam games I have gotten at these seasonal sales.
 
luiz said:
They created a Black Friday in Brazil as well. But consonant with Brazilian ideals, this is how it works: prices are raised by X% the day before "Black Friday" and then cut by Y% on Black Friday, with great fanfare, so as to perfectly go back to the previous price. It was already nicknamed "Black Fraud".

This will be my second Black Friday in the US, and just like last year, I'll do anything except shopping. I'd much rather pay full price on everything than having to deal with barbarian hordes.
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Exactly. I also don't understand why people want to fight the crowds and traffic when you can get pretty much the same deals on the same items by shopping online.
 
It should be noted that if you aren't actually shopping surfing the barbarian hoards can be a lot of fun. I was otherwise engaged this Black Friday, but I have done that at times in the past just for kicks. Might go out and do some right before Christmas.
 
bhsup said:
I bought, at the behest of some #fiftychat denizens, a game called "Papers, Please" from GOG for $9.99. That was the extent of my participation with Black Friday or Cyber Monday or Small Business Saturday or whatever. Well... I did go to the grocery store on Saturday, but I didn't catch much on sale.
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I found it boring and tedious. It's literally just filing paperwork.
 
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