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[Borachio]

Actually, I have often consumed spaghetti with just butter.(After all, that's pretty much the same as bread and butter, ingredient-wise). Equally often with just tinned tomatoes. (With chopped basil leaves, for living in the lap of luxury.)

I have never tried a spaghetti sauce of butter and ketchup, but there's no reason to suppose it wouldn't do the job. Just that I don't keep ketchup in the house, is all.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

All I know is I will never, ever, consume a spaghetti "sauce" comprised of butter and ketchup.

That is how my younger brother eats things. Everything he wants to eat he will cover in ketchup. He even covered a pizza in ketchup.

 

[JohannaK]

Ketchup is the worst and most repulsive condiment ever invented by men. There, I said it. It makes me sick.

 

[Borachio]

I believe you must mean soy sauce. Not only the most repulsive but possibly the most useless artefact known to man.

Tomato ketchup on a bacon sandwich is, of course, de rigeur. But I'll assume everyone knows this.

 

[Antilogic]

Actually, I have often consumed spaghetti with just butter.(After all, that's pretty much the same as bread and butter, ingredient-wise). Equally often with just tinned tomatoes. (With chopped basil leaves, for living in the lap of luxury.)

I have never tried a spaghetti sauce of butter and ketchup, but there's no reason to suppose it wouldn't do the job. Just that I don't keep ketchup in the house, is all.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I think pasta tossed with olive oil is good, but there is something about downgrading a real tomato sauce or just plain tomatoes to ketchup. It sounds disgusting.

That is how my younger brother eats things. Everything he wants to eat he will cover in ketchup. He even covered a pizza in ketchup.

I knew a guy who put pepper on everything. Fries and potato chips? Add pepper. Celery and carrots? Add pepper. Peanut butter and grape jam sandwich? Could probably use some pepper.

Ketchup is the worst and most repulsive condiment ever invented by men. There, I said it. It makes me sick.

I love it on burgers and sometimes with fries, and I'll mix it with a few other dishes sometimes like a particular baked beans recipe. But beyond that, it doesn't have much use.

 

[madviking]

((spicy) brown) mustard reigns above all other condiments

 

[Borachio]

Ah yes, mustard.

The stuff they used to poison millions of soldiers with in WW1.

 

[W|M]

I knew a guy who put pepper on everything. Fries and potato chips? Add pepper. Celery and carrots? Add pepper. Peanut butter and grape jam sandwich? Could probably use some pepper.

I once put tabasco on paçoca (a Brazilian sweet which is a bit like solid, crumbly peanut butter), and it was delicious

 

[Takhisis]

humiliating other humans is pretty much what I play games for these days

Mise, on the advantages of multiplayer play over single-player.

 

[GenMarshall]

Ketchup is the worst and most repulsive condiment ever invented by men. There, I said it. It makes me sick.

 

[Traitorfish]

That is how my younger brother eats things. Everything he wants to eat he will cover in ketchup. He even covered a pizza in ketchup.

Sounds like your brother is Scottish. He's not adopted, by any chance?

 

[Tee Kay]

This one was directed at Winner, of all people.

I'm not twisting history. You are reading too much of modern Euro-Multiculturalist propaganda, which tells you that ethnic groups did not exist in the past, and that everyone loved each other. Propaganda that projects modern wishes and desires on how Europe should look like into how it looked like in the past.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

I thought the modern EU narrative was that integration was necessary to prevent the conflict of various ethnic and national groups.

 

[Antilogic]

...wat?

 

[Terxpahseyton]

I thought the modern EU narrative was that integration was necessary to prevent the conflict of various ethnic and national groups.

Not really. Further integration was only very peripherally justified by keeping the European peace since decades. Instead, economics and world power balances were the actual arguments of weight. It is just what reflexively is said nowadays when people dare to question the status quo. Because if you would just repeat what was said in the past - how good it would be for our economies - you would look dumb. And just saying "Well - it would be really a hassle to go back" would be missing the desired tone. "OMG project of peace" is better. A simple message pertaining to something of essential importance.
You don't even need to make an argument for it. You just say "Well we DID kill each other" You used to be able to say "FREE TRADE = GROWTH = FREE TRADE = GROWTH" Now you mumble something about stability and then - PEACE.

 

[madviking]

You know what us busy CFCers should do? A Cliff's Notes book club. #highdeas

i love you antilogic

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Manages to wring out good discussion points from a substandard video. Sadly not the OP.

It's been circulated before. It's one of these forecasts that uses certain parameters to model possible future scenarios. These are weighted in certain ways. Since war and civil unrest leads to refugees, in a generalised global model accepting large numbers of immigrants is modelled as spill-over of war and civil disorder, and massively pulls down the projected HDI. It means if you are an immigration country, you get a long-term forecast from these people indicating you will sink like a stone in HDI. It's a reasonable assumption when modelling parts of the world where spill-over effects of neighbouring countries imploding leads to massive waves of refugees, which masses up the neighbourhood. Sweden is an international outlier in that respect, since it's not taking refugees and immigrants because Norway or Finland has blown a gasket and are collapsing.

Given the length of the projections, if this model had been used on say the 19th c. US, it would today by logic default be a third-world hell-hole. There's a good many similar studies from various parts of Europe clearly indicating how for all the frictional problems immigration can cause, it leads not net gains for the nation accepting it. Sweden has spent the last 20 years growing its economy faster than then rest of the EU and even the US. Each new million citizens mark has been passed at a faster rate than ever in Swedish history. It's projected to get a coming old-age dependency rate well ahead of the rest of an otherwise quickly greying Europe. That's one of these question one can pose to the selection criteria: immigration is super-bad, apparently, but ending up with a sliver of a population not decrepit from age, tasked with supporting a huge lump of steadily deteriorating old people is apparently no problem at all, m'kay?

This study is being trotted around the internet becuase the model settled on by a quirk of selected criteria and their weighting threw up a result supposed to be very unflattering for Sweden. It means Sweden is an immigration country these days. We knew that. Everyone who wants to close the national borders hates it of course.

 

[ReindeerThistle]

Rant on my own: My left index finger hurts . And I'm left handed. Not nice .

If you use your off hand, it feels like somebody else is doing it.

 

[Antilogic]

i love you antilogic

I aim to please.

 

[Hygro]

Babe thread just got real interesting. Is happening as we speak, starts here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13226046&postcount=517

But it continues on