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LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan is among just a handful of states raising taxes on low-income working families while cutting taxes for other groups, the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities said in a report released Tuesday.

The Washington-based group notes that Michigan, New Jersey and Wisconsin all have scaled back tax credits for low-income workers in recent years while cutting business taxes. In Michigan's case, low-income families will see their tax breaks shrink starting next year by about $260 million annually while businesses will get a $1.1 billion tax break starting in January and a $1.7 billion tax break the year after.

Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder originally wanted to eliminate the state Earned Income Tax Credit, but agreed to reduce it from 20 percent of the federal credit to 6 percent for tax year 2012. He said earlier this year that the state needed to make cuts to balance the budget and noted no cuts were being made in Medicaid programs providing health care to low-income working families. He also has said the business tax cuts will create employment opportunities.

"More and better jobs are at the heart of the governor's plan to improve and strengthen our economy so ALL can prosper and benefit," Sara Wurfel, a spokeswoman for the first-year Republican governor, said in an emailed response to the report.

Wurfel said Snyder finds it unacceptable that Michigan's families "are among the poorest in the nation."

"His overall plan aims to help address and reverse that trend. He's also worked hard to ensure essential and solid safety net services that lower income individuals rely on, like protecting Medicaid access and services," she said.

The Michigan League for Human Services, which opposed shrinking the tax credit, said the change is bad policy.

Five years ago, Michigan was one of just five states that taxed a working family of four making below $14,000, about 71 percent of the federal poverty level, one of the harshest levels of taxation on the poor in the country.

That changed when lawmakers passed the state tax credit, which took effect in 2008. Last year, Michigan taxed a family of four only when its income reached 136 percent of the poverty level — about $30,300, according to the center's report.

"Michigan had made a lot of progress from the days when we used to literally tax working families into poverty," the league's policy director, Karen Holcomb-Merrill, said in a statement. "Unfortunately, we're moving once again moving in the wrong direction on this issue."

Families qualifying for the Earned Income Tax Credit have been getting about $430 annually from the credit. That amount will drop to $130 to $140 in the next tax year. Meanwhile, two-thirds of Michigan businesses next year will be exempt from paying corporate income taxes under the new business tax breaks.

"EITC cuts helped offset ... the revenue loss from those tax cuts," the center said in its report. "Instead of undermining efforts to reduce the tax liabilities of poor families, states should preserve the progress they have made and build upon it when their budget outlook improves."

Wurfel said the tax changes were part of an effort to make the system "simple, fair and efficient."

"It was also about ending exorbitant business tax credits that were jeopardizing our future and ensuring a level playing field for all industries and sectors," she said. "It was about creating a structurally balanced budget that could be a building block for the future."

So let me get this straight: The logic here is that poor people need to be taxed more to balance the budget, but businesses need to be taxed less so they can create jobs? Sounds good, except for one little problem: Since the poor now have a heavier tax burden, they will now have even less discretionary income to spend at these businesses. This means less revenue, which means those hypothetical new jobs still won't be created and the business owners will get to pocket more of their money while the average worker haas to fork over even more of their income to a corrupt inefficient sack-of-dung government.

This reeks of corruption and it needs to be squashed before it catches on in more states.
 
Well, it's ideologically consistent if nothing else. They cut taxes to promote business and raise taxes to not increase the deficit too much.
I guess they justify it in their minds that businesses will do so well that they'll pass their unconditional tax savings on in the form of higher wages. Good luck with that.
 
I weep for America.

Well at least they aren't cutting Medicaid, which is good since the people won't have any money for medical insurance anymore.

I don't even live in Michigan and this enrages me to no end so I can't understand why Governor Snyder isn't being tarred and feathered in the streets right now.
 
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So let me get this straight: The logic here is that poor people need to be taxed more to balance the budget, but businesses need to be taxed less so they can create jobs? Sounds good, except for one little problem: Since the poor now have a heavier tax burden, they will now have even less discretionary income to spend at these businesses. This means less revenue, which means those hypothetical new jobs still won't be created and the business owners will get to pocket more of their money while the average worker haas to fork over even more of their income to a corrupt inefficient sack-of-dung government.

This reeks of corruption and it needs to be squashed before it catches on in more states.



Welcome to the Keynesian-Supply Side divide. Politically, the Supply Siders have won. This is just 1 little battle in the overall war.
 
Michigan is such a disaster, I guess they have resorted to random policy to see if that can break them out of their funk...
 
Well at least they aren't cutting Medicaid, which is good since the people won't have any money for medical insurance anymore.

I don't even live in Michigan and this enrages me to no end so I can't understand why Governor Snyder isn't being tarred and feathered in the streets right now.

Medicaid is one of the few things that really should be cut! Granted, some of its duties should be subsumed by a larger Medicare (I support Medicare For All), but Medicaid really only functions as a subsidy of sorts for health care and pharmaceutical industries.
 
But unfortunately, what they are trying has no hope at all of working. So you give a trivial tax break to businesses that aren't heavily taxed in the first place. What does that business do? They shop it around to the other states to see who will offer more. And then they walk away from any place that hasn't raced fast enough to the bottom. Will they create jobs in the process? No, because their consumers have less money to spend, and so the company would be screwing themselves to invest in more production capacity. So they pocket what they have extorted from the state, and only the executives are better off in the long run.
 
In Michigan's case, low-income families will see their tax breaks shrink starting next year by about $260 million annually while businesses will get a $1.1 billion tax break starting in January and a $1.7 billion tax break the year after.

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This is just too depressing not to laugh at
 
You're not allowed a Great Revolution until the head of state marries an interfering German. Law of History.
 
I don't even live in Michigan and this enrages me to no end so I can't understand why Governor Snyder isn't being tarred and feathered in the streets right now.

Beacuse poor people don't vote, and this is clearly what the people of Michigan asked for. Gov. Snyder wasn't shy about his tax and privitization plans.
 
If you don't turn a profit, then you don't get taxed (and in fact get an income tax asset to use in offsetting future profits). Raising the income taxes will only hurt corporations that are making a lot of money. So I disapprove of the whole "lower taxes to help businesses" argument. It only helps businesses that don't need any help.
 
Presumably it would work IF companies lacked the resources to invest, but high cash reserves and very low interest rates mean that is certainly notthe case.
 
You're not allowed a Great Revolution until the head of state marries an interfering German. Law of History.
Not a German:

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This Thanksgiving we feast on the poors! *nomnomnomnomnomnom*
 
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