Thing is that "own and keep guns" is not nearly as much of a problem when you remove the false premise of security. Tell a guy "man, you've got kids running through your house like a stampede, you gotta keep those things in a proper safe" and be met with "but I gotta have 'em ready or what good are they when the time o' need comes?" Tell a guy "look, when two people bang their cars together in a parking lot tempers get really short, that's a really bad time to introduce a gun to the mix" and be met with "but if it's not loaded in the console how will it save me from a carjacker?" If you take the fantasy of personal protection, or as Berzerker puts it 'equalization for the weak' out of it maybe you can talk sense to these people and them wanting to own and keep guns isn't such a problem.