Conservatives: Why do you support Bush?

betazed said:
I am completely ambivalent about Hillary, but it seems to me that 2,3,4,5 and 6 above makes her the average politician.

As for 1 it could a personal choice owing to personal reasons that you and I may not be aware of.

1 could be, but it seems to me more likely to be political than personal.

6 (combined with the fact that she's extremely intelligent) makes her dangerous. Remember how uneasy people were about certain SCOTUS nominations because they were refusing to answer specific questions? Multiply that by a hundred and you have my gut feelings about Senator Clinton, because I don't think we've seen the true limit of her views on executive power yet.
 
Electing Hilary Clinton and her cronies from Bentonville,Arkansas is more likely akin to electing Bush cronies from Crawford,Texas.I see no differences in these two extremes,it is funny that people think that they are electing only the statesman(or stateswoman) to office when in fact is that they are electing mostly the people who finance their campaign.
 
Irish Caesar said:
"It's okay to be full of you-know-what as long as the other Party is, too," eh?

Sorry, not buying it.
No, he was saying that you can't accuse Bush's action as opposing civil rights when most people support it.
 
Red Stranger said:
No, he was saying that you can't accuse Bush's action as opposing civil rights when most people support it.

What the Party says it will do and what the Party does should be one and the same, no matter what the people want at that time. Anything else is hypocrisy.

If they want to change the platform, by all means, change the platform. But don't say one thing and do another.
 
I don't .
 
Im conservative and I don't support Bush anymore. Even before, when I supported him, it was mainly based upon only a handful of issues, but now that he's screwed new ones up, I don't really believe he is a good representative of the Republican base, even as the president.
 
While I certainly don't agree with many of Bush's policies, I find the Democrats utterly, irredeemably morally, intellectually and spiritually bankrupt as a party. :mad:

I have nothing but absolute contempt for them as a party, as doubtless many OTers have realized by now.
 
Irish Caesar said:
What the Party says it will do and what the Party does should be one and the same, no matter what the people want at that time. Anything else is hypocrisy.

If they want to change the platform, by all means, change the platform. But don't say one thing and do another.

When has the party not do what it said it will, except in situations where they're adapting to unpredictable events such as Katrina or 911.
 
Red Stranger said:
When has the party not do what it said it will, except in situations where they're adapting to unpredictable events such as Katrina or 911.

For a start, how about dismantling Democratic gun control? ;)

They let the Assault Weapon Ban expire. Woo. :rolleyes:
 
IglooDude said:
For a start, how about dismantling Democratic gun control? ;)

They let the Assault Weapon Ban expire. Woo. :rolleyes:

They may have, but how many cases of somebody killing others with an assault weapons have you heard? I know I haven't heard many, even with the media being ultra biased.

I support Bush because I'm a republican, not because of what he has done. He hasn't really done much, and all the religisou crap is just that... crap. I don't like that he's transformed conservatism into religiousism (word?). It's worthless. But at the same time, I think he's gotten a bad rap. Patriot Act was supported by both sides-unanimous almost I think. Katrina- he couldn't do much there and it's state rights as well as city rights. And finally, I think he's done wonders with the economy. It's doing well now and getting better. But whatever. That's just what I think.
 
sealboy6 said:
They may have, but how many cases of somebody killing others with an assault weapons have you heard? I know I haven't heard many, even with the media being ultra biased.

I suspect you may have misinterpreted me. I'm refuting Inqvisitor's claim that the Bush Administration is socially liberal (though a more recent thread has clarified for me that Inqvisitor thinks the Catholic Church is socially liberal too, so that may just be a difference in perception there). He then said in effect, well Bush hasn't actually done anything in the social spectrum, and I said by that logic he hasn't actually done anything pro-Republican either, and non-renewal of the AWB isn't an adequate counter to that statement. Heaven knows I'm not defending the AWB itself, it was as likely to reduce crime as making homelessness a crime would be to reduce poverty.

sealboy6 said:
I support Bush because I'm a republican, not because of what he has done. He hasn't really done much, and all the religisou crap is just that... crap. I don't like that he's transformed conservatism into religiousism (word?). It's worthless. But at the same time, I think he's gotten a bad rap. Patriot Act was supported by both sides-unanimous almost I think. Katrina- he couldn't do much there and it's state rights as well as city rights. And finally, I think he's done wonders with the economy. It's doing well now and getting better. But whatever. That's just what I think.

So at what point do Republicans start saying "you know, Bush isn't really a Republican, is he?"
 
Slightly OT, but I'm not realy getting everyone's opinions on assault weapons clearly.
 
nonconformist said:
Slightly OT, but I'm not realy getting everyone's opinions on assault weapons clearly.

My position is at the flat end of the weapon rather than at the pointy end. :p
 
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