[RD] Daily Graphs and Charts

[civvver]

Where's acetaminophen? It's extremely dangerous when abused and mixed with alcohol.

 

[The_J]

That's paracetamol.
Deadly dose for direct poisoning is also 40 tablets or so, something like that. I honestly wonder how people manage to kill themself with that.

 

[civvver]

Oh I didn't know it was the same thing. And this only accounts for direct poisoning? Cus if you take too much of it over a period of time you can go into liver failure. I suppose shocking your system with a ton of it at once would do that, but mainly it's people who abuse it and sometimes with alcohol and then a decade later they have liver failure.

I would've thought this number would be higher than aspirin.

 

[warpus]

I like that map of Canada, but it's basically just a population density map

 

[Arakhor]

Aren't most maps of Canada?

 

[The_J]

Oh I didn't know it was the same thing. And this only accounts for direct poisoning? Cus if you take too much of it over a period of time you can go into liver failure. I suppose shocking your system with a ton of it at once would do that, but mainly it's people who abuse it and sometimes with alcohol and then a decade later they have liver failure.

I looked that up once, but yes, apparently paracetamol overdose does the same as normal abuse: It poisons your liver. If you decide to take a 1 or 2 packs of paracetamol at once, you'll die over the next 3 weeks or so from liver failure. So it's a really stupid way to kill yourself.

But for your point... I'm not sure how that could be counted. It'll be hard to figure out if some kind of liver failure is necessarily induced by a normal consumption of alcohol together with irregular or maybe regular paracetamol, in contrast to only alcohol or other reasons. So I'd guess they're only counting direct poisoning. But can't be sure without having looked at the sources.

I would've thought this number would be higher than aspirin.

In absolute numbers it is (the graph is hiding that nicely), but I'd not know why that either.
Because who'd take that much aspirin to kill themself?

 

[civvver]

Oh, well maybe less people take aspirin. Most people these days prefer tylenol. Not sure why, good advertising I think and it's newer. Aspirin has been around forever. But I take it cus I want to be good to my liver.

Aspirin is mostly harmless so long as you have a good stomach. Too much can eat your lining and give you ulcers or acid reflux, but it takes a lot of abuse or predisposition to such things I'm fairly sure.

I don't know how much aspirin it takes to OD but when I visited Japan in 2008 you couldn't buy aspirin without a prescription. Japan had a very high suicide rate and apparently people would take a bunch of aspirin to thin their blood before opening veins so they'd be sure to bleed out. Not aspirin poisoning directly.

I have experienced the blood thinning results myself. I took a standard dose for a headache and later that evening, like three hours later, I cut my finger while cooking. I probably would've needed stitches either way, but it never clotted and the nurse was very surprised and said it was the aspirin.

 

[peter grimes]

This is really interesting... But I'd love to see a normalized version regarding the press reporting g. For instance, only 2% of alcohol death are reported, while pot related death are vastly over reported.

 

[Hygro]

Wait, is this number of reports per death or number of deaths reported per death?

 

[The_J]

I thought the former.

Oh, well maybe less people take aspirin. Most people these days prefer tylenol. Not sure why, good advertising I think and it's newer. Aspirin has been around forever.

Paracetamol = tylenol = acitaminophen
Which is actually older by like 20 years (indutrailly seen) than Aspirin.
In both cases they're from the 19th century, and we still don't know how both work, so...meh...

I have experienced the blood thinning results myself. I took a standard dose for a headache and later that evening, like three hours later, I cut my finger while cooking. I probably would've needed stitches either way, but it never clotted and the nurse was very surprised and said it was the aspirin.

Yes, that is true.
That's why they do not recommend Asprin after anything involving blood (e.g. I had recently 2 of my wisdom teeth removed , and the advice sheet from the dentist explicitely mentioned it).

 

[hobbsyoyo]

This chart makes me feel good on a couple of different levels.

 

[Grisu]

Wait, is this number of reports per death or number of deaths reported per death?

either it's the former or the chart is absolutely bogus...that would mean over 4 deaths by canabis reported for every actual death?

This chart makes me feel good on a couple of different levels.

Strangely enough, it does the exact opposite for me. Not that I'm not glad science has made progress in this regard, but both my parents were in the percentage that didn't make it :/

 

[Hygro]

either it's the former or the chart is absolutely bogus...that would mean over 4 deaths by canabis reported for every actual death?

Or the news is bogus.

 

[The_J]

either it's the former or the chart is absolutely bogus...that would mean over 4 deaths by canabis reported for every actual death?

I think this might be more a problem with the counting methodology. Since it includes the google news time line (didn't know that existed), it'll probably include the reports of the same death from multiple sources.

 

[Samez]

The cancer diagram is imho misleading. Survival rates are highly dependant at which stage it is discovered. E.g. bladder cancer is nearly 100% leathal if the tumor manages to grow to the outside of the bladder. Lethality rates are so high that at that point no more treatment is done except pain reduction till death (and perhaps some antidepressants).
So what use is it if the cancer is leathal after six or seven years after the first mutation, if discovery is only a few months before death.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Wow who would have thought that the country that spent decades pretending it was a perfect utopia that treated all of its citizen's equally would have 456 gender-employment restrictions?

 

[Samson]

What is it about night work that means it is prohibited to women? Especially such specific types of night work (not electricity, gas or transport).

 

[hobbsyoyo]

@Lexicus mode engaged

Why? Because
S E X

(Ugh why can't I do it right? It doesn't look how he does it. I demand to know the secret sauce!)

 

[The_J]

I'm actually mostly curious about the restrictions in European countries (Switzerland, what's up there?).

Some of that at least makes partially sense. The restrictions in Egypt (not working with fertilizers, pesticides and hormones) could make some sense, in a view on a potentially not yet born baby.
Some of it doesn't though.