Dawn of Civilization - an RFC modmod by Leoreth

[Gruekiller]

S's and G's.

 

[Linkman226]

Well I do declare, this is one marvelous piece of code:

Found it in the Mongoose SDK. A fix for the Flood Plains disappearing problem. Found in CvCity.cpp:

Original BTS:

CyArgsList argsList;
	argsList.add(iX);
	argsList.add(iY);
	long lResult=0;
	gDLL->getPythonIFace()->callFunction(PYGameModule, "citiesDestroyFeatures", argsList.makeFunctionArgs(), &lResult);

	if (lResult == 1)
	{{
			pPlot->setFeatureType(NO_FEATURE);
		}
	}

changed to:

CyArgsList argsList;
	argsList.add(iX);
	argsList.add(iY);
	long lResult=0;
	gDLL->getPythonIFace()->callFunction(PYGameModule, "citiesDestroyFeatures", argsList.makeFunctionArgs(), &lResult);

	if (lResult == 1)
	{
		//
		// Mongoose FloodPlainsFix BEGIN
		//
		if ((pPlot->getFeatureType() != NO_FEATURE) && (pPlot->getFeatureType() != (FeatureTypes)GC.getInfoTypeForString("FEATURE_MUSHROOMS")) && (pPlot->getFeatureType() != (FeatureTypes)GC.getInfoTypeForString("FEATURE_FLOOD_PLAINS")))
		//
		// Mongoose FloodPlainsFix END
		//
		{
			pPlot->setFeatureType(NO_FEATURE);
		}
	}

This is definitely going into Synthesis.

S's and G's.

Which means....?

 

[jammerculture]

very cool

Here IS MY SAVE FROM MY PREVIOUS POST, ROMAN up CRASH BUG (lol can you hear me?!)

As well a python error during Byzantine spawn\

By jammerculture at 2011-03-06


arrrggh never mind still wont let me upload

 

[Gruekiller]

Which means....?

S**ts and giggles.

 

[Linkman226]

S**ts and giggles.

Ah

 

[Leoreth]

Well I do declare, this is one marvelous piece of code:

Thanks! There's just the question if the floodplains' additional food is still added to the city tile when it stays (somehow I suspect this ...).

very cool

Here IS MY SAVE FROM MY PREVIOUS POST, ROMAN up CRASH BUG (lol can you hear me?!)

As well a python error during Byzantine spawn\

By jammerculture at 2011-03-06


arrrggh never mind still wont let me upload

No need to shout, I can hear you from here

Thanks for the exception screenie, I hope they get this forum fixed soon so I can check out your save.

 

[Gruekiller]

Besides, Qart-Gadir and Lixus can be pretty good cities if you let 'em grow for a while.

 

[jammerculture]

it appears I may have been playing without all the latest updates. I had renamed the folder the SVN was going into and did a clean install of 1.7. However the SVN was still going into the original folder. Hopefully I haven't had you chasing ghosts.

 

[dcode147]

Version 1.71 now available in the download database.

Changes compared to 1.7:

Spoiler :

• reduced Constantinople's starting culture
• Arabia now flips Jerusalem, Memphis, Alexandria and Tisfun in 640 AD
• Byzantine 600 AD spawn date now properly displayed
• renamed Alexandretta to Antiochia
• rearranged resources in Anatolia (removed 1 wheat and 1 clam)
• Bulgar, Cuman, Pecheneg barbarian spawns to challenge Byzantium to the west and north
• Arabian UHV now erases non-state religions except holy cities
• preplaced Tisfun/Ctesiphon/Baghdad in the 600 AD scenario
• made Justinian less military inclined
• nerfed several Byzantine coefficients, most prominently research, GP rate, production, city upkeep
• reduced Byzantine likeliness to train settlers or offensive units
• changed Cataphracts to strength 9, +25% against melee
• removed Byzantine spearmen in 600 AD Africa
• reduced Babylonian likeliness to train settlers
• original Byzantine war and settler/stability maps added (replacing the former Greek maps)
• Theodosian Walls don't create GPP anymore, Hagia Sophia now increases the chance of creating an artist
• removed wheat, ivory near Tripolis
• original Byzantine city name map, renaming function up to date
• Changed Italian UP to "free specialist in your three largest cities until the industrial age"

Do the ivory and wheat disappear at a certain year? I still see them in 3000BC start, but not for the AD600 start.

EDIT 4 quick suggestions I can't count
- Benghazi kinda sucks as a city for gameplay right now. Moving the fish near Sparta 1S, would make that resource more useful to more cities.
- Is it possible to make all the ivory in North Africa (the one next to Tripoli in 3000BC and the Morocco one) disappear by certain year? (if that's not the case right now)
- Also it is okay to leave the wheat by Tripoli until a certain year? (that way it would actually be worth it for Phoenicians to found a city around there in North Africa. Plus it would be historical since Africa was the breadbasket of Rome)
- Can you remove Barbarian elephant archer spawns after 200AD (at the latest)? Barb elephants are unhistorical and the cause of too many cities razed in North Africa.

 

[J. pride]

Leoreth, do i hav to download the svn once i download version 1.71. cuz once i say yes it tranfers more 100+ mbs. Can u just elaborate on the svns

 

[Linkman226]

Thanks! There's just the question if the floodplains' additional food is still added to the city tile when it stays (somehow I suspect this ...).

I BELIEVE that's the case, although that isn't an issue right?

Besides, Qart-Gadir and Lixus can be pretty good cities if you let 'em grow for a while.

For a long while... a really loooonnnggg while...

Do the ivory and wheat disappear at a certain year? I still see them in 3000BC start, but not for the AD600 start.

They are preplaced in the 3000 BC start, but not the 600 AD start.

Can you remove Barbarian elephant archer spawns after 200AD (at the latest)? Barb elephants are unhistorical and the cause of too many cities razed in North Africa.

Indeed. It seems unfair our ivory disappears in N. Africa but the barbs still get it.

 

[JiimBV]

Just out of curiousity, what is the SVN thing I keep reading about?

 

[Gruekiller]

I don't think I said the elephants part, Link.

 

[J. pride]

Ok so just a few comments on resources:

1) You should probably put the wheat in Tripoli back but move the fish one tile north east. The reason i say this is because you have to consider Tunis. If the Arabs found Tunis or later when u add a Berber Tunis; Tripoli will be deprived of resources. But if u move the fish north east only Tunis will have access to the fish; while Tarbulus will have wheat in the place of fish.
2) Move the stone in Baghdad one tile west.

Oh and regarding the Byzantine Spearmen. I didn't test how the arabs do with their addition yet. But a good way to solve the problem would be that the spearmen don't get any bonus against the camel archers. I did some research and found that the early Arabs were good skirmishers and usually didn't engage in direct combat. Anyways camel archers are still archer so they wouldn't engage in melee combat against spearmen

 

[Leoreth]

Do the ivory and wheat disappear at a certain year? I still see them in 3000BC start, but not for the AD600 start.

EDIT 4 quick suggestions I can't count
- Benghazi kinda sucks as a city for gameplay right now. Moving the fish near Sparta 1S, would make that resource more useful to more cities.
- Is it possible to make all the ivory in North Africa (the one next to Tripoli in 3000BC and the Morocco one) disappear by certain year? (if that's not the case right now)
- Also it is okay to leave the wheat by Tripoli until a certain year? (that way it would actually be worth it for Phoenicians to found a city around there in North Africa. Plus it would be historical since Africa was the breadbasket of Rome)
- Can you remove Barbarian elephant archer spawns after 200AD (at the latest)? Barb elephants are unhistorical and the cause of too many cities razed in North Africa.

1. Well these cities are supposed to suck (there was nothing important going on there in post-Arab history).
2. Yeah, that's definitely planned.
3. Ditto.
4. Ditto

Leoreth, do i hav to download the svn once i download version 1.71. cuz once i say yes it tranfers more 100+ mbs. Can u just elaborate on the svns

It's explained in the FAQ in the first post of this thread what SVN is and how you can use it.

 

[Linkman226]

I don't think I said the elephants part, Link.

Fixed, sorry for the poor copypasta

Oh and regarding the Byzantine Spearmen. I didn't test how the arabs do with their addition yet. But a good way to solve the problem would be that the spearmen don't get any bonus against the camel archers. I did some research and found that the early Arabs were good skirmishers and usually didn't engage in direct combat. Anyways camel archers are still archer so they wouldn't engage in melee combat against spearmen

Why not just give camel archers a shock promotion off the bat?

 

[Gatsby]

This question has probably been asked already, but: if I have the previous version of the mod (e.g. 1.7) and want to upgrade to 1.71, is there a patch I can download or do I have to re-download the whole mod?

 

[Leoreth]

No, sorry, I was lazy and thought it didn't matter in the days of widespread fast internet access. Mea culpa

 

[J. pride]

So is there anything specific u need feedback on? (wat can i help u with)

Before i told u some ideas on Byzantine and Arabs but wat are u focusing on now?

 

[civ_king]

No, sorry, I was lazy and thought it didn't matter in the days of widespread fast internet access. Mea culpa

"fast internet?" mine was only 150KB/s until a month ago (now it is 300KB/s)