Do you like watching people get hurt/killed (in the movies)?

[Irish Caesar]

What bothers me is when security guards get abused.

Heck, sometimes the hero will kill security guards, even though the security guards are doing their job.

I agree that sometimes it's like being a contractor at the Death Star ("what did you think was going to happen?"), but other times the guards are just honest joes who are killed.

Take the Matrix, where Trinity and Neo kill a bunch of security guards in the lobby. Those were real people who were really killed (in the plot). Did they know they were working for 'the bad guys'? No. They were just guards, making a buck.

And no moral issue was made of their murders. I find that sick.

But, as is discussed in Clerks, the security guards should be aware of the potential ramifications of their taking that particular job.

 

[El_Machinae]

That's what I was referring to with the Death Star comment.

But, for the guards in the Matrix, they were prepared for combat, but they lived their lives assuming that people attacking them were evil.

When they were slaughtered, they were slaughtered as if they were 'bad guys' (with no remorse). But they weren't bad guys - at worst they were rubes.

And the morality of the action was never questioned.

 

[Wolfwood]

And the morality of the action was never questioned.

I think there was a line in the first Matrix to the effect that: "Until we have shut the Matrix down and freed the people, anyone of them may be the enemy." This referred to the fact that an Agent could take over one of those poor suckers at any moment.

So, in effect, there was no way to avoid killing innocent people. Didn't the "dead" agents often leave behind the bodies of their innocent hosts(people)?

But, back to the point, even though I quoted that research I never replied to the topic myself. I do like a good action flick (stress on "good"), but I do NOT like sadism or any violence that goes over the top. Steven Seagal's movies go over the top (he's always breaking people's arms, for some reason).

 

[Harbringer]

I like the cheesy 80s-90s action flicks that are way over the top, yet most of them have no blood or any violence that would make you feel uncomfortable in any way. The only thing I dont like is when cops, military and security get whacked, thats just wrong.

 

[The Condor]

I am going to come out of my "exile from the forum (if I ever was in it)" and say I do indeed enjoy fighting scenes where eventually someone (preferably tons of people though the occasionally one on one or so can be great to) gets killed.

Though a cooler thing for me are explosions. The bigger the better. Like buildings, oil tankers, nukes, and the like.

Plus, fires are always cool (I am actually trying to get one I lit in my fireplace while still on vacation put out [so I can sleep {rule in our family to make sure atleast someone watches the fire go out before everyone sleeps or we are going somewhere in case a ember or a flaming wood piece slips out and catches something on fire or the shaft breaks again forcing all the smoke to now enter the room which is never good}]) especially if you video tape it (though I never have but some shows I watch sometimes do) and can see the thing(s) on fire slowly burn.

The Matrix's (first one [I hated the other two for the most part]) shoot-out in the lobby was one of the greatest shooting scenes I have seen and I have seen a lot of them. I in fact even went out and bought the soundtrack to hear "Bulletime" though to my dismay it wasn't on the CD (was too happy to find it and buy it without checking) I thought it was so cool (along with the rest of the movie).

Not only are the guards actors but also they were guarding the Gatekeepers building and Morpheous (is that how you spell it?) so they were kind of evil in a small way which means it was ok for them to be killed.

I also watched SAW (on DVD [plan to get the second one when it eventually comes out to]) and it was better than originally planned (watched it at midnight too just for the heck of it [with no lights on] and left me pumped which kind of sucked because it was supposed to be horrific and frightening and stuff). The ending really was cool (wasn't expecting it and won't ruin it for anyone wanting to watch it) along with most of the movie though the beginning was a little slow. It really does have a plot!

So seeya (back to being "gone from the forum for forever") once more....

 

[Gr3yL3gion]

Not really, I tend to stay away from action movies anyway.

 

[BCLG100]

Depends to what extent it is, depending on the movie graphic scenes of violence just dont really fit in.

 

[punkbass2000]

I dislike it. I can handle it if it's not the main theme of the movie. Movies that focus more on mutilation and torture I can't sit through (literally).

 

[Atlas14]

The more people that get hurt and killed in an unpredictable and interesting way, the better.

 

[Atlas14]

And no moral issue was made of their murders. I find that sick.

Its a movie. If Hollywood starts making moral issues about every gosh darn thing, I'll go ballistic. If you have moral issues with people killing "innocent" security guards, who really gives a flying flip? It is meant to be fiction, not advocating what is morally right and wrong. If you are so insecure with yourself that movies are starting to jolt your nerves because "innocent" people die, then go watch Teletubbies or something. It is FICTION, i.e., anything can happen.

And the whole publicity BS about the movie FlightPlan, and the poor, "uninsightful" depiction of stuartesses as rude, indifferent to passengers' problems, and selfish is a load of crap. Who really cares if fictional characters poorly represent people from a general occupational field? I don't. It is a movie, get over it.

 

[CocoLahte]

I watch a lot of movies, especially Zombie-themed ones when I was young, but in recent years, I’ve been unable to stomach seeing somebody die, regardless if it was based on a true story or not. I’m not entirely sure why, I had no problem with this before, never cared for it if someone was murdered on screen during a horror-film, but I’ve found myself avoiding them because I just hate it; it makes me feel sick, sad, and depressed.

Which is why I find myself skipping right to the end of a horror-film or any film to see how it ends, or to see how the killer dies. I would also sometimes read the movie’s plot beforehand, which I know, ruins the whole experience.

 

[Narz]

I have no recollection of starting this thread...

 

[H4run]

I have no recollection of starting this thread...

Then your memory working good.

Joke aside, I hate raw violent, like watching someone fall, get hit by something or get torture. The amount of raw violent in Cartel made me stop watching the series.

But strangely I like to watch a fight, where it's basically two or more people trying to hurt each-other. But if during the fight a bone get broken or people lay down get stiffed, I feel deeply hurt inside, it is so hard to watch for me and makes me cringe a lot.

But a pure beating each other fest, I can enjoy that, like when Rory McDonald fought with Robbie Lawler for the second time, it's hard to watch for some people, but I do enjoy and deeply respect both fighter (I sympathize more to Rory though).

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

I have no recollection of starting this thread...

I'd be a bit more concerned if you have a perfect memory of starting every thread you ever made in 18 years.

 

[Socrates99]

I enjoy action, scifi, horror, etc movies. Violence doesn't bother me. I enjoy a well done fight scene, realistic or not. The only thing I can't stomach is a long drawn out tortuous death. I dont need to see over the top pain and misery. Not my thing.

 

[AmazonQueen]

I grew up watching cowboy films and earlier era war films.
I'm ok with many and frequent deaths, its just the bloody and realistic ones that bother me.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I have no recollection of starting this thread...

Maybe it got pulled out of one of the serial threads?


That said...

I am reminded of some almost B movie zombie flick I saw in the early eighties. This girl has locked herself in a bathroom to escape a zombie and just as she gets the little knob turned to lock the door the zombie just punches through the door and grabs her by the head. So there's all these long jagged splinters sticking out and the zombie is pulling her like it plans to just drag her through the hole in the door and she has her hands and legs pushing against the door. There is this montage of camera angles, including close up and a POV shot, as a gigantic splinter slowly stabs into her eyeball.

Might be the only movie violence that I genuinely could not make myself watch.

 

[Kaitzilla]

I notice in modern action movies there are a lot of scenes of innocent people getting hit, shot, runover, knocked thru glass, etc. sometimes in ways that seem to be attempts at humour (on the part of the director).

Do you enjoy watching that sort of thing?

I must admit I enjoy seeing some destruction, specifically cars and trucks smashed, but I don't usually enjoy seeing random people getting slammed around. More so since '00 when I got hit by a car myself.

Never thought much about violence in the movies when I was younger but it does seem to be extremely overdone. A reminder of why I like more intelligent movies (no offense to action fans, I've been known to enjoy an occasional viewing of action films like Total Recall).

Any thoughts on this?

I had to stop playing a video game once because the guard begged for his life and wet himself.

Fictional violence should not be too real.

 

[abradley]

Do you like watching people get hurt/killed (in the movies)?

Depends, if it's something like
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Where a bully gets his just deserts.

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[AmazonQueen]

Depends, if it's something like
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Where a bully gets his just deserts.

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Yeh, defnitely, but doesn't it seem easier to live with if Jimmy Stewart did it than John Wayne?