Election 2024 Part III: Out with the old!

Who do you think will win in November?


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RCP was a little better last election.

In any event, it'll be a few days before the debate boost shows up in the polls.

I tend to think the debate is a 1, maybe even 2pt Harris boost. The blue wall states I particularly expect to see a bump. Still have a hard time seeing GA or NC going Harris.
 
See also, Lindsey Graham, Ted Cuz and so on...
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
 
"Concepts of a plan" was so bad, such an instant meme, that I just saw a clip of Harris at a rally, and she said, "At the debate he said he had no plan to replace Obamacare" and everybody burst into laughter without her saying the line itself.
 
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It reminded me of when I was a teenager and my dad would ask me if I'd done my homework yet, to which I'd say, "not yet, but I've thought about it."
 
I've got you covered. Two sentences that sum it up:

In the debate, Trump answered a question about him scuttling a bipartisan immigration bill by first raving about the crowd sizes at his rallies, then ranting about people eating dogs and cats in Ohio. Immediately after the debate, Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris.

Succinct enough?;)

Honestly, the dogs and cats thing is the only thing I have heard about the debate so far
 
She's up 2.8. No recent Rasmussen seems to be included.
 
I bet on Clinton to beat Trump last time only to be disappointed by the American public. I quit gambling altogether after that loss so this time I cant say. Not surprised he got indicted.
 
Watching the debate, Harris had the "oh dear, we need to put grandpa in a home" look absolutely nailed.
 
Presidential character in the internet era.

May as well read the room.

"Ow, muh ballz." Or some such strawman.
 
Watching the debate, Harris had the "oh dear, we need to put grandpa in a home" look absolutely nailed.
This must be why the Donald now says that there won't be another debate.
It reminded me of when I was a teenager and my dad would ask me if I'd done my homework yet, to which I'd say, "not yet, but I've thought about it."
Ah yes, I remember a teacher saying something like ‘don't tell me you haven't finished your assignment when you haven't even started it’.
 
I bet on Clinton to beat Trump last time only to be disappointed by the American public. I quit gambling altogether after that loss so this time I cant say. Not surprised he got indicted.

I haven't bet since 2004 (I won).

But I picked Trump in 2016.

Got 2000 wrong otherwise it's been fairly obvious since 1996 imho.

She's up 2.8. No recent Rasmussen seems to be included.

3% I would be happier. Iirc that's the magic number to account for gerrymandering and fptp for the Dems.

2.8 is leaning towards Harris still.
 
Honestly, the dogs and cats thing is the only thing I have heard about the debate so far
Hey, you asked for "less than 2 sentences" right? I was trying to oblige you. Don't shoot the messenger. :dunno:

She's up 2.8. No recent Rasmussen seems to be included.
538 dropped Rasmussen as propaganda a while back.
 

Trump rules out another presidential debate against Harris​

Donald Trump has ruled out another presidential debate against his rival Kamala Harris before November's election.
He said on Thursday - two days after the pair's first showdown in Philadelphia - that Harris only wanted a rematch because he "clearly" won.

Several instant polls taken after Tuesday's contest indicated voters felt Harris had performed better than her Republican opponent.
Trump added that Harris should instead "focus" on her job as vice-president.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn9l9500vg7o

On the more hilariously pathetic side, there's also a catfight brewing in camp Trump among MAGAs Marjorie Taylor Green and Laura Loomer, on who is the most despicable and racist (they both are). You can read more about who Loony Loomer is here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly8y27dwgpo

 
The part of Trump's tweet where he was insisting he won when anyone with half a brain cell could see otherwise is pretty classic Trump
 

Trump rules out another presidential debate against Harris​

Donald Trump has ruled out another presidential debate against his rival Kamala Harris before November's election.
He said on Thursday - two days after the pair's first showdown in Philadelphia - that Harris only wanted a rematch because he "clearly" won.

Several instant polls taken after Tuesday's contest indicated voters felt Harris had performed better than her Republican opponent.
Trump added that Harris should instead "focus" on her job as vice-president.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn9l9500vg7o

On the more hilariously pathetic side, there's also a catfight brewing in camp Trump among MAGAs Marjorie Taylor Green and Laura Loomer, on who is the most despicable and racist (they both are). You can read more about who Loony Loomer is here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly8y27dwgpo


Shocked and stunned.
 
Trump doesn't have time to debate. He'll be out today pumping a gryftocurrency currency scheme to be run by his sons Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber. I'm sure Trump supporters will take some profits from their Truth Social investment to back this one.
 
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