Fall From Heaven NES

To: The Ljosalfar of Zwyr and Razor Forests
From: The Nobleman's Council of the Calabim.


We urge you to end the resistance in the regions of the Zwyr and Razor Forests. Agron's Justice will not enter further into Elven lands at present, but we will not be moving out of these Forests until proper order is restored. For now, these areas are to be under Calabim Authority and any further resistance will be met with deadly force.

To the Ljosalfar leadership:

Do not send reinforcements to the Southern Forests. You have been warned.

We pay no heed to your ramblings, what do you request from us, to surrender to you? Are you even aware how foolish you sound? You'd better be gone right now or not a single of you men will return home alive.

From the Ljosalfarl Leadership:

We are sending reinforcements to the Southern Forests. You have been warned.
 
(Hahaha just to prove what a mess the council is right now - expect a stooooory at some point :D)

To the Ljosalfar:

The Council will meet tomorrow at the seventh hour to decide on a witty and intimidating response to this outrage. (;))
 
Very interesting update. Definately worth waiting for.

also:
did i get any stability effects from extensive trade (trying to fill our import needs)?
 
Very interesting update. Definately worth waiting for.

also:
did i get any stability effects from extensive trade (trying to fill our import needs)?

You will, once I get time to go through finer points of trade and get it up-to-date. For now I'll unfortunately have to back down to the 'simple mode'
 
OOC:
Jopa, could you send us building info during updates? It seems it held Kol. 7 a bit. I know I have to check various mails to make sure what I have where, and Algeroth might not have reacted to the palissade thing if he had received the info he (still) had palissade in the mails.

Also, are palissades required before walls, or not? And if they are teared down to let place for walls, does that give any kind of benefit (like cost reduction on the walls)?
 
OOC:
Jopa, could you send us building info during updates? It seems it held Kol. 7 a bit. I know I have to check various mails to make sure what I have where, and Algeroth might not have reacted to the palissade thing if he had received the info he (still) had palissade in the mails.

Also, are palissades required before walls, or not? And if they are teared down to let place for walls, does that give any kind of benefit (like cost reduction on the walls)?

Palisades: Better defense, 50 gold, 1 turn, no tech req.
Walls: Better defense, 100 gold, 2 turns, req. Masonry
Grand Walls: Better defense, 200 gold, 3 turns, req. Mathematics and Walls

No palisades required for walls, but walls are req. for grand walls. Though I like to think that they either work as an additional layer of defense, additional series of towers, wooden pikes to stop climbing... So they still provide bonus even after walls.
 
Hi all!

I liked this update, Jopa. Very well-written.

First of all, the Lanun would be happy to agree to a non-aggression pact with the Hippus and the Khazad, either together or separately. Jopa, see my PM's for some other details.

Second, to the Kuriotates: it's nothing personal, but I ama pirate, and need someone to plunder. You are the closest and weakest.

And Kol.7, I even reminded you about that damn gold! Granted, that was a week ago, but still... I think I'm entitled to a little interest. Let's say, you owe me 30 now?

And one question to Jopa: what is the relative size of a merc company relative to a "normal" unit? Are they the same, or are the mercs not really strong enough to be considered anything but support troops, like Adepts are?

Once again, the world is ominously quiet in some parts...
 
Hi all!

And one question to Jopa: what is the relative size of a merc company relative to a "normal" unit? Are they the same, or are the mercs not really strong enough to be considered anything but support troops, like Adepts are?

Once again, the world is ominously quiet in some parts...

I thought about that, actually - I was considering putting a 'size' stat to mercenaries that would determine that, but I went for simple variant - if nothing is stated, they are regiment size. They are intended to fight, after all. Some MAY have stated that they are smaller and cheaper regiments. 700 men is just for a flavor this time (I envision regiment to have about 1000 men)

EDIT: Well, I can't really do much about quiet world - or I can, but that is generally not pleasant ;) That's players duty :p
 
We'll give no more then 20. You reminded me a week ago and I sent rushed orders at the last minute, due to circumstances beyond my control. Sorry but it is only to be expected that I would forget some things. You will have your gold next turn.
 
We'll give no more then 20. You reminded me a week ago and I sent rushed orders at the last minute, due to circumstances beyond my control. Sorry but it is only to be expected that I would forget some things. You will have your gold next turn.

He did lost a stability point because of that..
 
Done. 25 Gold, and remember this time, please!

And thanks for the quick response, Jopa. Just to make absolutely sure that I have this right, a units that we train are regiment-sized, then? Or are they division-sized (about 4 regiments)?

And in other news, I've been working on this for a while and can finally post it now that the update is out. Karimir's saga continues....

This hopefully puts my latest actions in some context.

[this is part 1 of 2]

The ship shuddered as it hit the roughly-built dock. The nearby town wasn’t much to look at, since most of the “buildings” were actually tents designed to look like rocks more than anything else. Not that it mattered, since the nearby town wasn’t anywhere close to nearby. From this distance, the only objects that could be made out were the half-dozen men on horses who were rapidly approaching.



Karimir finished looking over his surroundings while he easily crossed the gangplank from the ship to the dock. It had been rather risky to leave on this mission, especially since he still wasn’t completely certain all of the Assembly members were loyal to him instead of themselves. However, the reward stood to be well worth the problems he’d have to deal with later. Besides, Presley was completely trustworthy, and more than competent enough to run the flagship while Karimir commanded the navy.



The horsemen were within shouting distance now, and while the Lanun sailors rapidly unloaded the ship and secured the area Karimir studied the men. They were mostly blonde, but one man was very dark and another was red-haired. All of them were armed with a lance and bow, and a few had swords or axes on their belts. It was hard to tell while mounted, but they looked to be taller and stronger than most Lanun, although Karimir was sure his men were fast enough to defeat them one-on-one. Except, of course, for the horses. Karimir was no expert, and barely remembered how to ride, but from the little he knew these horses would be able to run all night, half the day, and still kill more men in the fight than their riders.



The horsemen stopped a shipslength away. “Hail, Captain-Chief Karimir!” declared the red-haired rider in the Lanun’s native tongue. “On behalf of Warchief Brandon, son of Albett, I greet you. I am Chief Hybor, son of Treni, and I will lead you to the Elder Council when you are ready.”



Karimir studied the horselords for a second. They really were impressive, and he was glad that the old Assembly had made friends of these men instead of foes. He considered his reply carefully. “I greet you, Chief Hybor son of Treni as a friend. May the waves and winds guide you, and Tali grant you and yours fortune! My men will be following me soon with gifts for your people, but I am ready to continue now. I fear, though, that the Lanun are no riders – our ships are our mounts – so I am without a horse to speed the journey.”



Hybor simply nodded, as if he’d expected this. He probably had, since Karimir had a strong suspicion that the man was much more intelligent than the barbarian he looked to be. Of course, appearances meant little to the Lanun in general, since so many of them were emigrants or former captives from other nations. Karimir was dumbfounded, though, when Hybor whistled and a previously “wild” horse calmly trotted up and presented himself to one of the Hippus for a saddle. Karimir managed to calmly nod to the man when he presented the horse for Karimir’s use.



The Hippus were born and bred to saddle; that was obvious in seconds. To their credit, they were not contemptuous of Karimir’s attempts to keep up with their pace – instead they slowed to match him, as he struggled to stay atop his beast.



After a rather painful journey, the troop of horsemen stopped in front of the only permanent building in the entire town – or camp, whatever it was. Karimir’s original opinion of the Hippus people only went higher as he saw more of them. They were even taller than he’d suspected. Karimir would only be as tall as a third of the men, and two thirds of the women. Ah, yes… The women. Falamir had given his son a healthy respect for beauty in a woman, and the Hippus delivered far better than most of the other nations Karimir had seen. He would enjoy this place greatly while he was here.



On entering the building, Karimir was again surprised by these people. The inner walls of the rough building were carved in spectacular designs, and there were several rooms instead of the one he’d expected. Passing through the hallway, Hybor led Karimir to a large central auditorium. In it were about thirty men, most of which were quite old but a few were as young as Karimir and Hybor. Some of them were decorated in religious symbols, but most of them were as plainly dressed as Hybor and his warriers.



Preparing himself for a long, boring speech session, Karimir sat where he was directed. Again, the Hippus surprised him when the man sitting next to him told him they’d wait until the rest of Karimir’s following showed up – once again in his native Lanun, instead of the Hippus that Karimir had fervently practiced on the trip here. He really needed to stop letting these Hippus surprise him, but they were both completely alike the Lanun and completely opposite from them. Karimir wasn’t especially religious, but here he recognized the similarities of Tali’s two peoples and knew that the god influenced them more than he’s suspected.
 
[part 2 of 2]

The man he was next to was good at conversation, introducing himself only as Borth. Karimir learned an amazing amount about horses, grain, tents, and shamans in the next hour. Borth was surprised that Karimir knew at least as much as he did about weather, though.



Soon enough, the remainder of Karimir’s party entered the room behind Hybor, with a select few sitting at Karimir’s side and the rest hauling several heavy trunks. At this point, the rest of the Elder Council looked expectantly at Karimir. Assuming that he, as the intruder, was meant to speak first Karimir rose to say his piece in the language of the Hippus.



“Gentleman” - Karimir scanned the room. “I greet you as High Captain of the Lanun. You welcome has been better than any could expect, and I thank you greatly, especially Chief Hybol. I have brought several people who wish to speak to you, so I’ll be brief and let them talk about the specifics of the treaty we wish to make over the next few days. I simply want to remark on the wisdom of Tali in making our two peoples his own, as together we are surely more powerful than any nation of Erebus! I understand that your armies under High Warchief Brandon and his High Elder Arry the Wise, but I have confidence that the men they’ve left in their stead are fully capable to make both our nations strong.”



“The Lanun know that you lack roads, towns, farms, workshops – all those annoying parts of the world that, unfortunately, even the likes of us must deal with. As such, we have determined what the Hippus require to become level with even the strongest people of the world, and shall freely grant the sum to the Hippus as our token of goodwill and alliance.”



At this point, the trunks were opened up. These were filled with gold and silver coins, pearls, gems, and the other riches of the Lanun. It had taken every last coin the Lanun had (and a little more, to be honest), but after meeting these people Karimir was completely assured that the investment was worth the cost. Let the Assembly whine about it, but Karimir had been right and they’d soon realize it.



The Council was overjoyed. Never in their wildest dreams had they imagined people would simply give them the money and riches they needed to survive; but Karimir wasn’t completely finished even yet.



“The Lanun respect our allies, and wish them to become stronger even than they are now. As such, our last contribution is a permanent embassy to the Hippus: I have brought a Captain of the highest rank here to stay, and she will be accompanied by Lanun teachers to give the Hippus the knowledge they need as a people. It will take time, but the Hippus shall become a nation among nations on Erebus, and the Lanun will make every effort to help them. Thank you.”



Not one of the Elders was really listening at that point. They’d been amazed at the gifts of gold; once they heard that the Lanun were going to grant them an official embassy and advanced knowledge they’d been flattened. They were all talking amongst themselves, and only Hybol and Borth were looking Karimir’s way. Borth was speechless, but Hybol looked composed, yet pleased.



After Karimir’s speech, it took a long time for the Council to regain order. Finally, though, the rest of the Lanun embassy began to speak. Captainess-Ambassador Windstabber spoke of the typical wash that happened at official meetings, and Karimir swiftly tuned her voice out in favor of simply looking at her. She was impressive, intelligent, and ambitious, so her appointment here had been a given, really.



It took four days for the deal to be finalized; not because there were difficulties, but because both sides spent a large amount of time agreeing with each other and complimenting their shared virtues. At the final meeting, the Elders made an unnecessary hand vote to agree, and Karimir prepared to make a farewell speech and go back to Dunwich. However, after the vote Borth stood up to speak before Karimir could. Facing Karimir, Borth began:



“We are truly glad that our sea-brothers came to assist us. We are a strong people who need no help, but even the strong should try to become stronger if they wish to survive in the world. Our alliance today has made us both better, and together the Hippus and Lanun shall face the world and charge it! We have been gifted many tokens by the Lanun, and we cannot bear to let our sea-brothers leave without a token of our own. We have debated in secret when you slept over what we should give, and after many hours we have decided.”



Karimir was mildly interested; he couldn’t imagine what the Hippus had to give that could be of any use to the Lanun. They had little gold here; the plunder from their conquests hadn’t yet arrived. A horse? Surely not, since the Hippus weren’t crazy enough to put one on a ship and the Lanun weren’t crazy enough to let them. A piece of art, or a decorated tent, maybe. There just wasn’t anything else…



Borth looked to the door, and beckoned to the person beyond it. “In the tradition of the Hippus, we always attempt to unite the tribes. However, words are not binding – once they are spoken, they disappear. Writing does no good – paper burns, and a treaty unbroken is worth as little as a treaty broken. There is only one way: members of one tribe must exchange with members of the other, so that if either betrays they shall lose lives.”



Oh. No. Karimir didn’t like how this was going.



“We see that the Lanun understand this; they are leaving a very important Chief-Captain here as hostage. We, in turn, must grant them one just as important. However, we wish to truly grant a gift.”



Karimir knew, now. He’d heard rumors, but never in his worst nightmares…



From beyond the door a veiled woman appeared. Borth continued, “Thus, we give Brandon’s very own daughter Bardonya in marriage to the High-Chief-Captain of the Lanun, the great Karimir!”



Karimir felt the words like a sword to the gut. No, no, no, no, no… he was Karimir, secret son of Falamir, a seducer. He wasn’t supposed to marry! And especially not to a foreign chief’s daughter, more comfortable on a stinking beast than a decent ship – if he was to marry, let it be to some clever Captain like Windstabber, for Tali’s sake. They didn’t even let him see her face, so she was probably ugly. How could this happen…



Then the veil lifted, and Karimir immediately forgave the Hippus for everything. Twice.
 
And thanks for the quick response, Jopa. Just to make absolutely sure that I have this right, a units that we train are regiment-sized, then? Or are they division-sized (about 4 regiments)?

Ahh, thats what bothers you. To tell you truth, I don't know how many men are in regiment or division in RL (besides I think that varies with time and country). I used 'regiment' as a common name to replace 'unit'.

To assure you, in this game, regiment is about thousand men, and that's what you train. Mercenaries are also regiment size, unless noted otherwise. Adepts and such are of course not thousand people, but rather fifty of hundred.

Can you explain me division/regiment/brigade organization?
 
A regiment is composed of 1500-3000 men. This is the same as a brigade - which is just a different name for the same size unit, from a different unit class. A division is composed of 3-5 regiments, generally about 10000 men.

The numbers are from US Army current - the thing is, these don't apply to, say, medieval times, when unit sizes were based only on the number of people a given feudal lord could muster. In any case, feudal armies generally maxed out at 30000 men or so, divided at complete random. For our purposes, I'd recommend making a unit be about regiment size anyway, so an "average" army is ten units strong or so.

Not that it really matters, the only thing I was concerned about was whether the mercenary unit could fight one-on-one with a "regular" unit size. Now I know it can, so I'm content.
 
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From Summer Court Queen Lydia Valary:
To Svartalfarl:

Accept our proposal, let us restore the Old Ways and we can rule in harmony as we once did. No more blood needs to be shed. Together we can crush those rebellious lords, and bring power to rule to the Elven people.

To Calabim:
You ignorant fools. You still do not understand. Retreat from our forests, or you will fare far, far worse than you can ever imagine. Holy grooves of nature are not a place for humans to be. They are not a place to be for any one of those not in tune with the nature. Especially not for abominations like vampires that govern your principality. You immortal beings defy the natural order, defy the life and death circles, and Nature shuns you. We warn you. Power of nature is tremendous, and while it won't unleash on our foes, on our hostile but still, in the eyes of Gods, our Elven brothers, it won't hesitate to unleash it's wraith on ignorant intruders. We warn you, we urge you. As a one civilization to another. Save your men, and pack home. It is for the best of us, for Calabim and Elves alike.

To Erebus:
You remain blind as foreign powers intervene in Elven affairs. You all claimed that Elven matters should remain elven. Then why do you do not stop Calabim from doing this?

And still, have you not opened your eyes? Do you still remain blind to the threat at you gates? How can any civilization that claims to be worshiping what's holy ignore the Calabim rule. Their unholy rituals they use to sustain life, and live eternally. They claim to share our religion. Let it be know, we do not share their religion, and Ljosalfarl nation will not consider them our siblings in faith, not now, not anytime in the future. We will stop this evil cult. We are glad Calabim that people follow true faith, but their vampiric priests and rulers need to be thrown off.

As we speak, power of Calabim grows. They have their own continent, their own lush forests, mines and farms. Their power grows by day, and so do their borders. And one day, and that day may come soon, they will rise from their crypts, spreading their curse ('gift', they call it) to the ones that 'deserve it', to the most vile and vicious of their kin. And that most vile and brutal will come knocking at you door, imbued with their new unholy power. Sure you have heard tales of vampires and their powers. I assure you, that tales are true, and will come true. Consider this. Do you want us on your side, working together to stop the vile Calabim, or do you want shadow queens and lords that will work with them and together take your lands? Think well.


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From Great House Hares
To Queen Vyra

We accept your proposal and we will lay down our arms as soon as your law on new, lesser, crown duty and privileges is passed.


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From Great House Aratheon and Archduchy of Five Towers

We do not agree to your proposal, but it happens that our underlings do, and they tend to strive to unify our homeland once again, against Summer Court. If you offer us a tribute of 15 000 golden coins, and sign the promised law, we agree to your terms.
 
To: Elves of Ljosalfar
From: The C.I.A (Agron)

You say we defy the Natural Order? You petulent fools! We are the Natural Order! It is our God-Given right as Vampires to rule over the lesser beings of our realm, be they man, elf or beast. That is the only Natural Order I will recognise! Do you have any idea what would have happened to the men of Al-ash-Ir if Aeron the Protector had not given them the Queen Alexis to serve? They were a rabble! Barely surving in caves they clawed out of the rock with their own fingernails! But Aeron smiled upon these people, he saved them! He gave them Alexis, and from her a hundred Vampires to show them the true way. The way He intended. This is the Order that we serve!

You claim us to be tyrants! Vicious Overlords concerned only with the devouring of innocents! Have you ever visited Prespur? It is the greatest City in the known World! We bring the humans security, riches and unity and for that they are thankful! They are happy to serve as the children of Alexis. People of Erebus, these barbarians know nothing of Calabim ways! They spread lies to blacken our name! We have no intentions for conquest, and the very notion that we would spread the gift to ''the most vile and vicious of their kin'' is obscene! A human is given the gift of Alexis, only for outstanding achievement and sucess - it is what motivates our people to strive to do better and is the very reason that the Calabim are the greatest of all Nations, whereas these liberal Elven barbarians are a disorganised rabble! Nothing, in the grand scheme of things! You claim we are evil, but compare us to aristocrats anywhere on Erebus, how are we any different? Yes, our laws may be stricter, but what's wrong with that? Why should laws protect criminals over innocents? Why should a man so clearly guilty be free to endanger more lives while he awaits a trial? You are servants of a God long dead and buried, and a mere Angel, while we, the righteous, serve under the shield of Aeron the Protector! A living, strong God, and yet you claim we are the cult? Preposterous!

We have entered your Forests only to bring stability to our shared region. It is disillusioning for our people to see such strife and anguish on our very border! They demanded action, and so we sent our men forth to bring peace and order once more. I urge you to open negotiations with the Calabim and the Svartalfar Court, if the elven peoples are ever to have peace.

Nations of Erebus, do not heed these Elven lies! As we strive for development and Civilisation it is Nations like ours that must lead all sentinent species to glory!

Thankyou.

Lord Agron.
 
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