Delaying deaths more than saving lives. Like I said, an own goal.
Delaying deaths more than saving lives. Like I said, an own goal.
You said "no" but then describe your position as "yes".No? Are you intentionally misunderstanding and misquoting now? It was being suggested that it was the ONLY thing pasteurisation does.
Thus there are zero benefits to raw milk, other than the occasional side serving of bacteria.
The microbes are the point
Yeah so maybe don't be the obstacle to freedom when the topic is new to you?
Is this an area of research for you?Thus there are zero benefits to raw milk
Eating little organisms is big business. Along w yogurt & fermented veggies people are spending big bucks on probiotics, fermented drinks, stews, etc.
Is this an area of research for you?
Eating little organisms is big business. Along w yogurt & fermented veggies people are spending big bucks on probiotics, fermented drinks, stews, etc.
Our oversanitized society may be partially to blame for the rise in autoimmune issues people are having these days
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis
You're the one making the claims. I never said raw milk is or isn't better. Either way someone's right to eat something they like isn't really my business (unless I have to share a bed or bathroom w them)Is it yours?
You're the one making the claims. I never said raw milk is or isn't better. Either way someone's right to eat something they like isn't really my business (unless I have to share a bed or bathroom w them)
Amazing, you live in a democracy and imagine no power, but your example of power is the UN.Wow, I never knew my true powers until now! Am I accidentally chairing a meeting at the UN again?
Eating little organisms is big business. Along w yogurt & fermented veggies people are spending big bucks on probiotics, fermented drinks, stews, etc.
Our oversanitized society may be partially to blame for the rise in autoimmune issues people are having these days
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis
Must've missed it.I didn't claim it. I linked to evidence.
Stuff you don't like isn't snake oil.Those selling snake oil should be the ones providing proof..
And yet in your apparent fence-sitting you have repeatedly suggested it might be. Like when you said "people who eat these weird foods might end up living longer". You didn't say "they may also die earlier".I never said raw milk is or isn't better.
No one with a position to lose is going to bat for raw milk, but this is an area where science knows little but the preliminary discoveries are profound. Anyone can hide behind their pasteurized milk, but you’re welcome if my data point leads to a better understanding. Your gut flora will change your life, and we know very little the parameters of that. Someone has to get dirty.
“bacteria cause disease, let’s get rid of the germs” killed a lot of harmless germs and quite a few kids with consequent peanut allergies. But we didn’t know that until we did. It’s lucky when we’re right to follow science. It is realistic to expect more often that science follows us. Let it inform our hunches and educated guesses and self experiments so that it may gain hypotheses to test.
The only thing sceptic is your trouble with the English language. HAYOLOL, you're reveling your hand as a science sceptic. Since we've checked out from reality, we may as well check out of the conversation.