Genesis and Other Creation Myths

[warpus]

Why would God need to see that it was good, anyway? Wouldn't he have known that it would be good before he created it?

 

[Arakhor]

God was unlikely to have been unsure of his craftsmanship, but since he decided to double-check, that's his business, I suppose.

 

[Daw]

Why would God need to see that it was good, anyway? Wouldn't he have known that it would be good before he created it?

Why, he needn't. He just saw.

E.g.: I though it would be good if I make a table. I knew I had enough skills and materials, and I was quite sure it would come out good. And it did. And I saw it. And it was good. Still is, btw.

 

[Ryika]

God was unlikely to have been unsure of his craftsmanship, but since he decided to double-check, that's his business, I suppose.

But he must have known before double-checking that he likes what he'd see if he decided to double-check, so why would he still double-check?

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Also:

But the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"

And he said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?"

...why is he toying with them when he already knows the answers? What a poohole!

 

[Daw]

It's not a double check. It's a satisfying observation.

 

[Arakhor]

But he must have known before double-checking that he likes what he'd see if he decided to double-check, so why would he still double-check?

It's not a double check. It's a satisfying observation.

Well, there's that and then there's the observation that the peace of God passes all understanding.

...why is he toying with them when he already knows the answers? What a poohole!

Your parents have never asked you questions to which you knew they already knew the answers?

 

[Leoreth]

Your parents have never asked you questions to which you knew they already knew the answers?

To be fair, that too was always annoying as hell.

 

[Arakhor]

To be fair, that too was always annoying as hell.

Oh, of course, but if parents are capable of doing it, let's not be too surprised if God does it as well.

 

[Ryika]

Your parents have never asked you questions to which you knew they already knew the answers?

Yeah, but... I think when I had done something serious enough to be thrown out of my home they'd probably not use that rhetoric. That's like...

"Ryika, did you use this knife to stab your brother 50 times in the stomach?"
"Uhhh... no, mom!"
"...are you suuuuure, Ryika? There's blood all over you."
"Yeah... didn't do it."
"...okaaaay. If you say so."

Oh, of course, but if parents are capable of doing it, let's not be too surprised if God does it as well.

Well, I didn't ask whether he's capable of doing that (obviously he is, because he can do whatever he wants!), I just wanted to know of "He's a poohole." is the proper explanation.

 

[Daw]

Your parents have never asked you questions to which you knew they already knew the answers?

Well, it's what Leoreth said, and my parents have never ever killed me for failing to answer. Instead, they did bother to explain in the needed level of detail.

 

[Arakhor]

Newsflash - the God of the OT either has really hostile biographers or was a bit of a dick.

 

[warpus]

God was unlikely to have been unsure of his craftsmanship, but since he decided to double-check, that's his business, I suppose.

That's what I'm asking though, why would God need to double-check anything?

He knew it was good before he built it, he builds it, and that's it. No need to see that it's good - he already knew ahead of time. In fact I believe you could even say he saw it was good before he even started with construction.

Gods don't double-check unless they're flawed.

 

[Arakhor]

I imagine that the real reasons are that (a) it sounds poetic and (b) it confirms the initial perfection of God's creation.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

And Valka (apparently) and I (definitely) are saying that the light was there before us, for us to see it later and to name it light.

So far, so good. But I can't go along with the rest of your post.

 

[warpus]

I imagine that the real reasons are that (a) it sounds poetic and (b) it confirms the initial perfection of God's creation.

So what is Genesis anyway, symbolic poetry, or something God wanted us to take literally?

I think I blew this case wide open

 

[Arakhor]

Well, God was apparently a series of ancient astronauts, the answer is clearly both.

 

[classical_hero]

To be fair, that too was always annoying as hell.

It might be to you, but it was your parents trying to see if you would confess before they told you what they knew and what the punishment would be.

 

[Leoreth]

It might be to you, but it was your parents trying to see if you would confess before they told you what they knew and what the punishment would be.

I think you have the wrong picture of my parents and the situations I was remembering when making that post.

That on the other hand has revealed a little bit more about yourself

 

[abradley]

I wonder if there's a similar thread about the Islamic Holy Book?

 

[Ryika]

It might be to you, but it was your parents trying to see if you would confess before they told you what they knew and what the punishment would be.

...but God already knew how they'd react, didn't he? They even confessed and the punishment was still extreme.

I mean, it's the same with the rest of the story. The forbitten fruit? He MUST have known that they'd eat the fruit, but he didn't prevent it. Free will is not an argument, because he could have just placed the tree out of their reach.

No, instead he tells them not to eat from the fruit, very well knowing before even telling them that they would eat from it. What a dick.