Halo 3 Leads Kid to Killing Parents

Why is it society's fault that people are idiots? Should society paternalistically watch over people, and at the first sign of moronacy, restrain them? Or should we allow our people some leeway?



4 a: a part of a community that is a unit distinguishable by particular aims or standards of living or conduct : a social circle or a group of social circles having a clearly marked identity ...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/society

Society is what constructs our behavior, I don't believe that people just act with out some reason, cause or influence.
 
Petric, now 17, had sneaked out of his house to buy the game. But his parents caught him as he came in with the game and took it from him. His father, Mark, put the game in a lockbox in the parents' closet. He also kept a 9 mm handgun in the box, according to prosecutors.

I don't trust any source with sucha grammar error.
 
Daniel Petric was so angry that his father would not allow him to play the violent video game Halo 3

:lol:

Why is it society's fault that people are idiots? Should society paternalistically watch over people, and at the first sign of moronacy, restrain them? Or should we allow our people some leeway?

But do individuals exist in vacuum?
 
Theres an Xbox 360 advertisement at the top of the page.
 
Another terrible tragedy; I hate seeing things like this in the news both because they are sad and the stories hardly ever reveal relevant facts. Obviously the kid has problems and it's a horrible crime; he could also be mentally ill but this doesn't change the fact that he's dangerous, only how he should be handled by the courts. Also the whole staph thing is kinda mysterious; you seem to hear everywhere these days how it can really screw people up but again we don't have any details. Otherwise, some *sarcasm warning* observations.

1. Surprised no one's mentioned that this, of course, happens in one of the few countries in the world when people go get the "family gun" for domestic disputes. But that's a different story.

2. Also surprised cubsfan missed one of the biggest facts of the case. The family were Indians fans. Who would do that to their son? :shake:
 
You know someone should just one of these days blame some tragedy on rock music or jazz.
 
The father made a lot of bad choices in his life. He became a minister. He had children. He took his son's Halo 3. He had it coming to him.
 
You know someone should just one of these days blame some tragedy on rock music or jazz.

This is sad but not a tragedy. Unless... people decide to reenact the timeless Halo 3 slaying for audiences everywhere.

This is just another symptom of the decay of human condition.
 
You need to have the kid recognise what he's done, even though you can hardly blame him for this, he still needs to accept what he's done. Of course, he will do much of this naturally. This really is a tragedy.

This wasn't an accident. Canada aside, this kid went and got a gun and shot his parents in their heads because they wouldn't let him play a video game. You can absolutely blame him for it. You must blame him for it. If you want to say he's mentally ill, then fine, he's guilty by reason of insanity. He's absolutely to blame. Maybe his parents were crappy parents, maybe his brain was broken, but he pulled the trigger. Twice. The kid is to blame.
 
How the hell did he get the gun out of the lockbox, if it was locked?
 
This wasn't an accident. Canada aside, this kid went and got a gun and shot his parents in their heads because they wouldn't let him play a video game. You can absolutely blame him for it. You must blame him for it. If you want to say he's mentally ill, then fine, he's guilty by reason of insanity. He's absolutely to blame. Maybe his parents were crappy parents, maybe his brain was broken, but he pulled the trigger. Twice. The kid is to blame.

Hmmm. I know he did it and he should take responsibility. If he's dangerous then lock him up for our protection until (if) things change, fine.

Otherwise you're talking like a US legal book. I don't relate to that. Of course he was to "blame" (in inverted commas), of course he planned it and of course he wasn't of sound mind. I think societal attitudes and his father and him as well had something to do with this.
 
Inept parenting, however bad, does not lead to murder.

Try the kid as an adult. Lock him up. I only feel bad for his father, having to live with the fact that his son tried to kill him and successfully slew his wife.
 
We try kids as kids for a reason, you know. They're kids, they don't fully understand all the consequences of their actions, or may not be of the right mind to judge them.

Not that such a thing magically happens at 18, but we have established it as the threshold, though some gain it before, after, or not at all.
 
Hmmm. I know he did it and he should take responsibility. If he's dangerous then lock him up for our protection until (if) things change, fine.

Otherwise you're talking like a US legal book. I don't relate to that. Of course he was to "blame" (in inverted commas), of course he planned it and of course he wasn't of sound mind. I think societal attitudes and his father and him as well had something to do with this.

I don't know what you mean. Of course society influenced him, but ultimately the kid made the decision himself. Nobody held a gun to his head (huh!). How do you figure he's not to "blame"?

We try kids as kids for a reason, you know. They're kids, they don't fully understand all the consequences of their actions, or may not be of the right mind to judge them.

Not that such a thing magically happens at 18, but we have established it as the threshold, though some gain it before, after, or not at all.

I agree. I'm not all that upset about motions to try 17-year-olds as adults, or even 16-year-olds if the circumstance is right, but it shouldn't be such a common thing. I do not understand why outrage should translate to "try him as an adult".
 
I'm confused. If, like it seemed to state in the artice, the kid was denied the game by the father, and that the son and the mother had a very close relationship, why did he shoot his mother? In addition, why did he shoot them at all when he had got the game out of the locker containing it and the gun?

There's some major points ommited from this, I suspect.
 
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