Is Donald Trump Done for?

[Birdjaguar]

Two big open questions for republicans are the extent that they care about Trump's money laundering and his final status as an agent of Putin.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

A lot of Americans are taking a wait and see approach where all the Russia collusion and sketchiness is a mix of reverse-Benghazi(“!”) and forgivable petty corruption that we get what we pay for with Trump.

To many of them as long as everything seems fine when they aren’t caring about the news (propaganda/sales) they aren’t interested in the complaints. But if a recession hits they might feel differently. This huge band of go with the flow, irregular voters are still important and easily swayable once things reach a certain threshold.

While they might be "easily swayable," that begs the question of who they will be swayed by.

Let's say there is a recession. CNN will have knowledgeable economists explaining how it happened, why the Trump administration should have seen it coming while in fact they did things that either brought it on or at the very least made it worse, etc. Fox will have Hannity interviewing Trump about how the "deep state" and Democrat anti-American monsters caused the recession by obstructing Trump. The core of Trump's support will sway alright...towards killing the monsters if there is no other way to get them out of Trump's way so he can MAGA, not away from Trump.

 

[Hygro]

That some people lost jobs in their communities and their kids aren’t getting the 100k salaries of the mid-late 2010s straight outta college is what sways them. You know, for an election.

 

[onejayhawk]

Two big open questions for republicans are the extent that they care about Trump's money laundering and his final status as an agent of Putin.

Why would Republicans care about unproven spin?

The big question is whether Trump has delivered. The answer to that is yes.

J

 

[Lemon Merchant]

Why would Republicans care about unproven spin?

The big question is whether Trump has delivered. The answer to that is yes.

J

Delivered what exactly? Besides a cart full of bull feces?

 

[FriendlyFire]

Delivered what exactly? Besides a cart full of bull feces?

Delievered Republicans the white house, with that tax cuts, immigration crackdown and trade wars.
As a bonus massive deficets and inflation

 

[innonimatu]

CNN will have knowledgeable economists

 

[metalhead]

Well, I'm not sure this so much reflects stupidity on his part as the fairly reasonable assumption that someone of his social position could commit the kind of crimes he has committed with impunity. That assumption will still be valid for the great majority of people in Trump' social position; the only thing he did to screw himself over was win the election, and there is some evidence that he didn't intend to.

Yeah, but most people in the sleazy, illegal businesses Trump is in would have a better lawyer than Michael Cohen. They would realize the amount of exposure they might face if they ran for president, and not do it. Even if he didn't intend to win, which I don't buy, he put a bullseye on his back just by running. If he had better people protecting him from legal liability over the years, he might have been all right. But he alienated the entire legal profession and had Michael Cohen doing it instead.

And then there is all the Russia stuff. People maybe don't appreciate this, but the FBI was investigating Trump since the spring of 2016. That investigation doesn't stop just because Trump loses the election. Trump not only didn't take any steps to keep his campaign people in line, he surrounded himself with people who didn't even consider the legality or morality of what they were doing. Not coincidentally a lot of those people are criminals and thugs. Imagine that.

 

[Lexicus]

Delivered what exactly? Besides a cart full of bull feces?

Well, the media images of screaming brown children appealed bigly to Trump's supporters.

 

[onejayhawk]

Delivered what exactly? Besides a cart full of bull feces?

Don't belittle bovine manure. It's potent stuff.

The economy by itself would be enough. The employment numbers are gravy. Tax cuts. Justice Gorsuch, prospective Justice Kavanaugh, and about 30 appeals court Judges. Substantial reductions in the number of illegals immigrants making it past the borders. Large amounts of deregulation. That is a lot.

Over that, Republicans tend to like the changes that you hate. President Trump draws attention while things go on in EPA, Education, Interior, etc. that would have caused a huge Democratic outcry in previous administrations.

Delievered Republicans the white house, with that tax cuts, immigration crackdown and trade wars.
As a bonus massive deficets and inflation

This is half right and joking about the wrong part. Republicans do like having the White House and the tax cuts. Deficits are far below anything in Obama's first term and inflation has not stirred.

Well, the media images of screaming brown children appealed bigly to Trump's supporters.

Mental images of a screaming Arthur Sulzberger count for much more.

J

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Apply relativity and consider the context. Compared to Fox, CNN brings on geniuses.

 

[FriendlyFire]

This is half right and joking about the wrong part. Republicans do like having the White House and the tax cuts. Deficits are far below anything in Obama's first term and inflation has not stirred.

So its fine running 1 Trillion dollar per year deficits when the economy isnt in crisis ?
Your running Trillion dollar deficit and your think that inflation rate isnt going up ?

You dont think there was a price that is to be paid when Obama ran 500 Bil deficits and pushed US debt over the 77% GDP line ?

 

[Hygro]

You dont think there was a price that is to be paid when Obama ran 500 Bil deficits and pushed US debt over the 77% GDP line ?

And what price is that

 

[Zkribbler]

Don't belittle bovine manure. It's potent stuff.
Deficits are far below anything in Obama's first term ...

Your thinking about FY 2009, aren't you? ...which began Aug 2008, and included Bush's TARP, and consists of the last Budget penned by Bush.

 

[Hygro]

You two are soooo fixed on deficits

 

[Hrothbern]

He knows where all the financial skeletons are buried.

Any news whether the deal made for his confessions include the other suspected criminal activities, like money laundering before the elections ?
That red line of Trump.

 

[onejayhawk]

Your thinking about FY 2009, aren't you? ...which began Aug 2008, and included Bush's TARP, and consists of the last Budget penned by Bush.

No, I wasn't. Pick any one year of the first term. If you don't like 2009 because of the stimulus bill, take 2012 where Bush had almost no influence.

The point is, don't be hypocritical. Trump is not history's worst offender on the deficit.

J

 

[El_Machinae]

You two are soooo fixed on deficits

It's just something to remember. They're politically important.

 

[MaryKB]

Delivered what exactly? Besides a cart full of bull feces?

I've heard an expression, "you attract more flies with honey than you do with vinegar, but you attract the most with manure", and clearly it's totally working for him.

 

[Hrothbern]

I've heard an expression, "you attract more flies with honey than you do with vinegar, but you attract the most with manure", and clearly it's totally working for him.

And a special kind of flies: the dung flies