ITNES I - Interesting Times

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b]IT I Update 2 - Years 680-660 BC[/b]

Non-Military Events:

Trade centers bring economic benefits (+1 Economy per each trade center as held in the beginning of the turn)!

In Olmecia, much money is spent on education, infrastructure and army. Much like with Sparta, the conservative majority really doesn't like all those rapid changes (-1 Confidence) and the newly-Olmecized Zapotecs aren't really receptive to it all neither, especially that "zero" thing (-1 Culture). Speaking of Zapotecs, a Zapotec state has risen at Montealban [1].

While Tartessians sit around doing nothing (-1 Confidence), Lusitanians build a great fleet (albeit they, being rather unused to building and using ships, lose quite a few of them to the storms as the time goes before they learn to be more careful (-5 ships)), something not much liked as most tribal chieftains don't really look to the sea (-1 Confidence). The next act - expeditions to build settlements in Gaul and in Mauri [2] - WOULD HAVE caused an even greater uproar if not the sudden living space problems faced by the Lusitanians. Coming under pressure from the fleeing Iberians (see Military Events), two small tribes gladly agree to move to these new spots. The colony in Gaul, however, is surrounded by hostile Celts... and is increasingly hard to control due to the distance between Lusitania and this "Armoria". Another move that wasn't quite approved by the people was the education growth; most people, basically, just don't seem to understand what is the point to it all. Well, some of the southern tribes do approve, but most don't (-1 Confidence).

The Clusians don't do a lot of things; in fact, the only notable event was their expedition into Po Valley, where local Etruscans, threatened by Ligurians and Celts, gladly joined their brethren.

The Romans do lots of things, including the grant of citizenship to all the people in Roman territories; it is a political failure, as the diehard Greeks don't want it, the others aren't too moved by it neither (insufficiently to outweight the others, anyway) and - whats most important - the Romans themselves, as well as the Capuans, don't want the citizenship to be extended to the "barbarians" (-1 Confidence).

A coup takes place in Athens, led by Teksatos, who institutes popular tyranny in Athens (+1 Confidence); response from the other Athenian cities is mixed, as all apart from those in Aetolia declare for it, sort of, while those in Aetolia remain oddly quiet (rather then, as expected, declare independance).

The Spartans seem to be up to something, whats with all those ambassadors going back and forth...

The Egyptian Pharaoh tries to get more people to move further south, but the response is not very enthusiastic. Still, some agree to go, lured by the unfilfilled promises of gold.

The Trojans raise a great army (-1 Training) and also improve their training standards, becoming even better-trained then the Spartans, even though some either died, either deserted due to the harshness of it all (-1 hundred).

And the Lucan training is boosted, on land and sea, to be even further beyond the Spartans... and thus also beyond the Trojans. Some people, as with Troy, were rather unable to cope with all those drills (-1 hundred). Egyptian assassins, posing as messangers, have brutally killed Grand Vizier Achae! The Lucan people are saddened and outraged by this; many of them are quite unsure of Luca's future without this great leader (-1 Confidence).

The nation of Hay-Urartu is born after withstanding a sudden Scythian assault; it inherits both the military tradition of the warlike highlanders that are the Caucasians (mostly represented by Armenians) and the cultural tradition of the locals.

The Urrians begin to rebuild, and again it seems like they have a bright future in front of them, especially with the extensive gains in Mesopatamia... Yeah, right. (see Military Events) Oh, and an expedition was sent out to find "India" - they didn't find it, but eventually they did contact the great empire of Mohenjo-daro.

A horde of Asbarans is assembled by the Parhaens (-1 Training).

The Mohenjo-darans try to persuade some nearby Dravidian tribes to join them. Some do; most, however, don't and one of them even killed the ambassador and allegedly ate him.

After what could only be called a coup d'etat by the Hindu priests in Deccania, Deccania itself converts to Hinduism, which is anyway the most popular religion there.

After much head-scratching, the Wu specialists have determined that they DID find something that will please their ruler. Albeit its not yet in use, if the king [3] wishes so it will be. Also, the Wu raise their training standards greatly as well, with expectable consequences (-1 hundred).

Hong Kees sail here and there in the southern seas. Sure, they lose some ships to the storms (-2 ships), but other then that all went well - Malays and a great variety of islander tribes are met and traded with (+1 Economy). An innovative approach to militia training is undertaken (but another great scribe, BananaLee, already elaborated on that) and most Taiwanese tribes fall under Hong Kee influence, with some tribes right now being on the brink of joining with Hong Kong; ofcourse, there are some tribes that don't like all that, but they're few. Oh, and some miners supposedly found some odd, strong gray metal. Perhaps this is worth investigating?

Military Events:

Okay... Someone definitely has woken up demons of war this century.

Because that these two decades are, in some spots, even bloodier then in the other.

Celts invade north Iberia, pushing the northern tribes south and creating quite a mess as Lusitanians and Tartessians have to fight off the refugees.

(-1 Lusitanian hundred, -1 Tartessian hundred)

Rome goes to war with Greeks again; this time, with Athens. Roman forces march through Calabria and defeat the rare levy hundred, while most Athenians think, quite correctly, that the important battles will happen in Greece. Conquest of Calabria, thus, is quite easy.

(-3 Athenian levy hundreds, -1 Roman hundred)

But how different it is in the war with Syracuse! The Romans expected a straightforward Syracusean attack on the land border, a grave underestimation of their enemy; instead, the Syracuseans themselves too defend on the border, while by the sea, raiders are transported. They pillaged Roman lands and fled before any levies could be assembled (1 Economy from Rome to Syracuse). Finally, emboldened by Roman inaction (the Roman generals aren't eager to attack the fortified Syracuseans, not without the king's orders anyway) the Syracuseans recently landed a force near Rome, and the great city was only saved by the sacrificial geese who warned the city's defenders and allowed them to organize themselves and to fight back somewhat; thus, Rome as of now is besieged by the Syracuseans.

(-2 Syracusean hundreds, -3 Roman levy hundreds)

South of Pella, north of Pagasae, there be the small river of Haliacmon, and then there's also that tiny valley that is the first place where setting up a camp makes sense if you're a Trojan army on the march to Corcyra in the west. Which is why they did set up camp there, unaware of the wolves lurking in the nearby woods... oh, and those two huge Macedonnian armies encamped nearby. Sadly for the Trojans, the Macedonnians soon became aware of the Trojans, and, being in position to surround the Trojan camp as they were, didn't pass up the opportunity. Instead, the more numerous Macedonnians surrounded the better-trained Trojans and attacked them. Despite the surprise effect, the Trojans managed to stand their ground quite well, inflicting many casualties... but eventually, the Macedonnian Phalanx formation and tactics tilted the balance of battle into their favor, and all this resulted in the near-annihilated of the Trojan force present. After that, the Macedonnian army used the gained momentum to retake Pella, Pagasae and Thessaloniki, and advanced all the way to the old Trojan border and slightly beyond.

(-16 Trojan hundreds, -7 Macedonnian hundreds, -6 Macedonnian Phalanx hundreds, -12 Macedonnian levy hundreds)

In Greece itself, the Attican War is fought, as Spartans face down Athenians. The new tyrant may have taken over, but he issued no orders, which left the Athenian generals in a quandry. Finally, they decided - after the fall of Thebes to Sparta with little fighting - to give the Spartans one big battle when they (the Spartans) tried to besiege Athens (the city). Rallying Athenian levies, the generals led them to battle... but Athenian courage was more then matched by the Spartan disciplinne - that, and the Aetolian contingent of the Athenian army defected in mid-battle (as did the polises of Aetolia - they declared themselves independant... from Athens and also declared the Spartan "protectorate" over their lands). Athenians took positions within Athens, expecting an assault which never came - the Spartan army was patiently besieging the city. Meanwhile, a Minoan fleet simply decimated the Athenian one, and Minoans pillaged and plundered as well, though there wasn't much to plunder left in Attica. Finally, after holding out for over a year and a half (and enduring a "plague" that struck both the Athenians and the Spartans), the Athenians surrendered; they simply had NOTHING to eat now, and cannibalism was beginning to appear. The starving, but still alive foreigners (who arrived there shortly before the siege begun), supposedly Trojans, tried to oppose the "defeatist" garrison (and later, the Spartan forces that entered the city), but were slaughtered or captured, and the city of Athens - and with it, its empire and the last obstacle to Spartan domination of Greece - fell.

(-9 Spartan hundreds, -6 Minoan ships, -1 Minoan longboat, -Athens as an independant state, -10 Trojan hundreds)

Spartan war expenses (-1 Economy) are just barely covered by the quite exhausted Athenian treasury (1 Economy from Athens to Sparta).

Meanwhile, the Lucans blockaded all Spartan ports (after certain things happened with Minoa)! Well, that's a rather loud declaration, as the Spartans have many ports and the Lucans don't really have enough ships for them, and because those ships couldn't stand there indefinitely, and for a variety of other reasons... but still, some merchant ships were sunken indeed, and if this will continue Sparta might face serious reprecussions...

Quite unprotected, Lucan Bosporan comes under a Scythian barbarian attack (the Scythians suddenly got pushed by other Scythians, you know, the classic barbarian domino effect, which started this time with the Mohenjo-darans pushing Aranians north). The levies there eventually stop the Scythians, but not before ground is lost.

(-2 Lucan levy hundreds)

A pirate fleet was destroyed by a Lucan one, if at a high price. Not too close to the site of the battle, some foreign ruler stranggled his advisor for suggesting some silly idea. Maybe had something to do with this. Maybe not. The Egyptian flags on these pirate ships also get one thinking...

(-4 Lucan ships)

Trully tragic is the fate of Minoa, a great empire destroyed in one stroke. On one nice and sunny day, while the fleet was away fighting in Athens, fifteen merchant ships entered Knossos. Albeit this in itself was worrying, as one would have noticed at closer examination that these ships bore names of ships in different routes, by the time the Minoans noticed this it was too late. Before serious resistance could be organized, a group of ruthless well-trained warriors, clad in black uniforms and styling themselves the Black Army ( ;) ) was already in the city. They burned down everything, killed everyone they could see, and the Minoans were grasped by horror. The bravest of them, led by Renos, their king, charged at the foe and tried to stop him... but they were too few. Within but a week, the capital was but a burning pile and Crete was in chaos. Many atrocities were commited there. And when the island was in ruins, the Black Army departed. Soon after, the opportunistic Lucans landed there, grabbing the island and a good strategic position. Cnidus, in Anatolia, surrendered without a battle - after all, a lot of people there were related to Lucans and the others knew they stood little chance in case of a war. Rhodes and Chios, two Aegean islands, needed to be given a demonstration - 10 fine Lucan ships scared them into submission as well. But here another interesting part happened - the Minoan fleet, which was supporting the Spartans and about to go back home, saw the Lucan one there. Only recently did the horrible news of Crete's devastation reach their admiral, Leonidos, who did not at all believe them. But upon seeing the Lucan ships in Minoan national waters, he suddenly realize that those news were right. Enraged, he and his fleet engaged the Lucan one, and, after a brief skirmish, forced it to flee. To flee all the way to Hellespont, where the Lucan admiral, being pinned against the coast, was again forced to give battle. Only then did Leonidos realize that this was a trap - but it was too late for him to do anything about it. Two other Lucan fleets came from east and south respectively, and the Minoans were surrounded. Also, two hundreds of archers came on the two sides of the coast, and fired at the Minoan ships. In a great naval battle at Hellespont, despite taking larger-then-expected casualties at the hands of the vengeful Minoan fleet, the Lucans triumphed. Their victory over Minoa was almost complete now. Cyrene was meanwhile overran by the Egyptians, despite the garrison's and the levy's brave resistance. And finally, remnants of the Lucan fleet surrounded Cyprus. The proud island defied the blockade for seven years, and could have resisted almost-indefinitely, but eventually the local governor's nerves gave up. He surrendered the island, prompting a Phoenicean uprising that soon overtook it - all of it.

(-Minoa as an independant state, -6 Black Army hundreds, -10 Lucan ships, -4 Egyptian hundreds)

(1 Economy from Minoa to Luca)

Interesting turn of events is seen in Phoenicea...

(see spotlight)

(-Phoenicea as an independant nation, -4 Egyptian ships, -11 Egyptian hundreds)

The Urrians send lots of forces to deal with the Semitic nomads and to crush the squabbling Babylonian nobles; both are good choices, but soon enough, the Urrians, too, are killed off ruthlessly.

(-3 Urrian hundreds)

Who did it? Well, the Parhaens, who else. Having withdrawn from Mesopatamia and otherwise proven that they are good allies of Ur, the Parhaens gathered a large army and quickly invaded Ur's core area. AGAIN. This time, not many levies could be raised in the defense of Urrian lands, as most of them were slaughtered during the war with Babylon. So Ur falls without much of a battle, as do most other cities. The supply lines of the advancing regular Urrian forces in Mesopatamia are severed, and in the Battle at Cunaxa, the Urrian army is wiped out by Asbaran charges from several directions. Long story cut short - the Parhaens conquer Ur (albeit the Semites again overran the Arabian provinces of Ur).

(-Ur as an independant nation, -14 Asbaran hundreds)

(Economy from Ur to Parhae)

Mohenjo-darans press on against the Aryans, causing them - and the Iranians - to flee north. As they go, ethnosynthesis takes place, and a new ethnicity - the Aranians as they are sometimes called - emerges. Incidentally, Aranians, being pushed by Mohenjo-darans, push north the Iranians, the Iranians push west the nearby Scythians... and eventually all this means trouble for the Lucans in Bosporan.

(-4 Mohenjo-daran hundreds)

The Deccanians, seeking southward expansion, get just that, after some fighting with the local Dravidian tribes.

(-2 Deccanian hundreds)

Kalingans and Magadhans regroupped and prepared for the next round of fighting. As Magadhans despatched almost all of their imperial forces to stamp out the Kalingans and left the defense to the feudatory levies (not something one could always count on, ofcourse), Kalingans destroyed the Magadhan fleet and distracted the enemy attention to their own coast. Meanwhile, the Magadhans encountered an unexpected setback - the great assault on Sampa is resisted so ferociously, by civilians and the "regular" army alike, all of whom are animated by their king, that eventually it (the assault) had to be abandoned and thus the Magadhans had to wait for reinforcements, seriously postponing the overall plan. Meanwhile, a small Kalingan force travelled through Dravidian territory after befriending one of the local chieftains and "threatened" Pataliputra; this distracted the attention of the Magadhan levies that pursued it. And in the same time, the great battle at Sampa took place. Both sides underestimated each other's numbers, but eventually, despite all, the Kalingans triumphed. As their regular cavalry distracted the enemy attention and their infantry helped pin the Magadhans at the walls of Sampa, and as soldiers from the city itself, worried for the fate of Hemachandra's force, joined into the fray, the Whitecloaks led a devastating charge where, despite taking many a casualty (Hemachandra was wounded and at first supposed dead by those around him, but managed to stand up firmly in the midst of battle (or so the legends say) greatly inspiring his soldiers; the truth might have been less dramatic, or more), they destroyed the numerically-superior Magadhan force. The Magadhan levies, meanwhile, abandoned their pursuit of the diversion force at the border; it linked up with the other forces, and together they advanced north, eventually stopping on the border themselves. In Burma, the Kalingans warded off the Mon-Khmers, and another force - though taking casualties from the various diseases to be caught in jungles and swamps - surprised the Magadhans by crossing the Ganges in the east and entering the Magadhan rear, where only minor resistance was put up. As the 660 BC comes, the Kalingans, having defeated an enemy levy force, have made camp on the directly-opposite side of Ganges as compared to the Magadhan capital...

What a miracle! The great Magadhan army was crushed, and Kalinga was saved. For now. And from this particular threat.

(-12 Kalingan hundreds, -8 Kalingan Whitecloaks, -4 Kalingan levy hundreds, -3 Kalingan ships, -43 Magadhan hundreds, -8 Magadhan levy hundreds, -5 Magadhan ships)

And all this cost money for both (-1 Economy for Kalinga and Magadha each)...

And now, war came to China. It is quite confusing, as the Qin forces attack Wu just as the Wu army marches out to attack Qin; they end up fighting east of the border, at Qinglianggang. There, the superior Qin numbers win the day, even though the Wu training system allows them to inflict large casualties, retreat in good order and to win time for levies to be raised. And when they were raised, the Wu counterattack at Tari dealt the Qin a decisive defeat, demonstrating the importance of having a good officer corps and generally a well-trained army as opposed to just a huge one (especially if its not all that big). Wu tactics also proved quite succesful there. Meanwhile, another Wu attack went through without changes to plans; bribing the Sinite tribes for help (not all agreed to cooperate, but the Wu still suceeded in this maneuver), they struck into the enemy rear, defeated the enemy levies and besieged Yong. All looks well for the Wu... but will it continue to be so?

(-9 Wu hundreds, -13 Wu levy hundreds, -34 Qin hundreds, -8 Qin levy hundreds)
 
Random Events:

Jiva, a Mohenjo-daran general, has been declared the new emperor (+1 Confidence, +1 Culture).

The compilation of the Shennong Herb-Root Classic is considered one of the most important moments in Wu (and China's) cultural history (+1 Education, +1 Culture).

The downfall of rajan Dinesh II has strenghthened the Hindu priests and their authority (+1 Culture).

The birth of two twins to the royal family of Kalinga, and the solemn pledge of king Omprakash to defend Sampa as long as he lives, restores hope to the hearts of the Kalingans (+2 Confidence) and persuades more of them to join the Kalingan army (+5 hundreds). The Whitecloaks also become a distinct force, while new volunteers take their places in levy army (+5 UU), and indeed even more volunteers are inspired by the valour of the Whitecloaks (+5 hundreds). Kalinga perhaps does stand a good chance at victory now.

The Olmec mathematics are surprisingly-developed, actually advancing beyond the systems of such centers of knowledge of the Eastern Hemisphere as - for example - Sparta and Hong Kong by adopting the number "zero" (+1 Education).

Great celebrations were held at the capture of Sparta, and more young Spartans joined the army (+1 Confidence, +5 hundreds); the king's speech reassured his popularity amongst the conservatives (most of them anyway) (+1 Confidence).

Phoenicean forces at Tyre and Sidon prepare for a heroic last stand, and the citizens join their ranks (+10 hundreds).

The Grand Vizier travelled through his entire empire, raising his popularity amongst the people (+1 Confidence) and inspiring them to work harder (+1 Economy).

Hong Kong is developing quite nicely, spreading its influence abroad (+1 Culture) and prospering from the increased trade (+1 Economy). Also, a brillaint composer, Dim Ah So, has greatly helped develop Hong Kee culture as well (+1 Culture).

Amidst the mourning over Fedick's death, the Carthaginian people place high hopes on their new emperor, Hannibal I (+2 Confidence).

Inspired by the heroics of the Egyptian soldiers who fought and died at Tyre in the first battle for that city, more and more Egyptians join the army (+10 hundreds).

The confidence of Romans in their great king grows, as they celebrate the recent conquests (+1 Confidence). Also, more Romans join their army as well, seeking fame and glory (+5 hundreds).

A storm sunk some of the Lucan ships (-5 ships).

In Deccania, a disease killed off some soldiers stationed near a jungle (-5 hundreds).

Spotlight:

Phoenicean Exodus.

"Each end is a new beginning."
- Phoenicean proverb (incidentally it is used internationally in some form and each nation claims it to be its proverb. But whatever).

As 680 BC dawned, the Phoeniceans, despite the temporary respite received by their enemies, and despite the Lucans withdrawing from actual warfare in what's left of Phoenicea, were certain to lose. Yet, King Hiram I chose to stay in his land, with most warriors of Phoenicea. They stood bravely... but stood alone.

Sidon fell first. In 679 BC, hordes of Egyptians attacked Sidon, and the outnumbered defenders were crushed... taking with them many, many Egyptians. The Egyptians then surrounded Tyre. They besieged it, and yet often did not dare approach it too closely - so infamous were Phoenicean slingers and archers. They surrounded it with a ring of ships on the sea... only to see that ring broken by a huge Phoenicean fleet, assembled from whatever materials the Phoeniceans found (the fleet then went somewhere west; along the way, as a parting shot, they persuaded the Eastern Cyprus governor to swear his allegience to Minoa). Showing wonders of endurance, the Phoeniceans stood, stood... eventually some Egyptian general lost his calm and tried to assault Tyre, but was forced to retreat in shame - never making it pass the wall, and only holding parts of it for a small while. The siege dragged on, until finally, it became obvious that - as the Lucan fleet re-formed the blockade - there was no hope left.

Rather then surrender, Hiram and most of the city's population commited suicide. The treasury... was nowhere to be found. Most valuables were also hidden... somewhere. The Egyptians entered an empty city.

And by then, the Phoenicean fleet, led by Prince Agenor and torn by the storms, was nearing Sicily. As many citizens as possible were taken as the Phoenicean fleet, having broken the Egyptian blockade, sailed west. Many, many were the dangers Agenor and his fellow Phoeniceans faced on their way; but eventually, they reached the Promised Land. Liguria. At first they called it that; the city they built there they called Kart-Tyr, New Tyre. Eventually, the land became known as Kartyria; a small nation with a proud past, populated by the Phoeniceans and those Ligurians who joined them (the majority didn't). They faced many threats in their new country's early days. But guiding them through all this was their dream.

Dream of the Phoenicean Phoenix.

NPC Diplo:

From: Zapotecia
To: Olmecia

We are different from you in some ways, similar to you in others. Due to the former - please, do not try to expand into our lands again, nor try to extend your rule to us. Due to the latter - let us continue trading with you, and let us all remain at peace with each other.

From: Some of the fleeing Iberians
To: Tartessos, Lusitania

We ask for your protection against the ferocious Celtic invaders in the north! Fellow Iberians, you must assist us now, for if you don't - they will come for you next.

OOC:

[1] I wonder what is it called, really...

[2] Mauri=Morocco

[3] Probably the king, but maybe the emperor. I am rather confused here, but decided that to be on the safe side I'll make it "king" for now.

Reno, you can't spend eco. points on mercenaries.

Sheep2, it won't really cost anything; albeit, investment might prove quite beneficial. Oh, and sorry if I forgot anything, I did most of the update offline and noticed only after disconnecting that I forgot to copy your orders; I did now, ofcourse.

Everyone, any ideas for when the next update should be held? I.e. next Wednesday or as soon as is reasonable for me personally?

Am exhausted - won't update the nation descriptions this time, I guess. And the quality is probably quite suffering, too...
 
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Most people can't have horsemen in this age, btw. Some can, though - and that's Parhaa and the Indians as of now.
 
OOC: In your freaking face QIN!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

On a lighter note das, it's King and if u say emperor u'll be fried and fed to the fish as in north king's nes.
 
BananaLee said:
*sigh*
No wonder the fish I catch have two heads and three eyes...

must be the polar bears... :mischief:
 
Ha pathethic Troyan meatbags,DIE!Thoust were smitten as we said you would be!
MWHAHHAHHAHAHAHA!
 
Sorry Conehead.

:lol:

Sorry, burst out laughing upon imagining a Parhaen king saying that to the captured Urrian king.
On a lighter note das, it's King and if u say emperor u'll be fried and fed to the fish as in north king's nes.

Death threat noticed. Even though "king" really sounds out of place in China... ah well.

Btw - when should I stop the current IT? I'm thinking after some more things are resolved in India and China and after the Sparta/Luca showdown. Objections?
 
to Fleeing Iberians:
We shall aid you our Iberian friends. You should join our nations and army so we could better fight togheter, more organized togheter. And because we are a tribal confederacy you tribes will be added as equals into our cofederacy.
 
Capulet said:
NESes in which you lose?

Because it can happen in every one.

Nations in every nes are destroyed, not just in fresh start NESes. It's a part of NESing.

No I mean these ancient era NESes,I think I`m better at gunpowder age and beyond :p

EDIT:Oh and I`ve pwned Troy!!!Woohoo :crazyeye: !I rarel win at anything so gloating is required :p ;) :cool: :crazyeye: :lol: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
 
From: Most Fleeing Iberians
To: Lusitania

We gladly accept your generous offer.
 
@Panda:Traitor

Well the player number is still below 20, so I am rejoining as the Yan, Hola Alex.
 
Fortified???? I would've thought the combined pressure of the army that destroyed the Athenians and the one that was engaged against the Syracusans would've annihilated them...oh well, vengeance will be mine! They shall never cross the Pomerium! Never! The siege shall be broken!...

Don't stop this until I've beaten the Syracusans! Please...
 
WHOAH, North King just unloaded a can of whoopazz on Magadha :eek:

@das, are the red cities trade centers?

From: Emperor Jiva of Mohenjo-daro
To: Kalinga *secret*

Do you need some assistance in finishing these bloodthirsty brutes off, or do you think peace is near?

From: Mohenjo-daro
To: Parhae Empire

Greetings! We have heard tales of your victorious, as Im sure you have heard about us. Let us break the ice with a suggestion, a trade route maybe?
 
das said:
:lol:

Sorry, burst out laughing upon imagining a Parhaen king saying that to the captured Urrian king.


Death threat noticed. Even though "king" really sounds out of place in China... ah well.

Btw - when should I stop the current IT? I'm thinking after some more things are resolved in India and China and after the Sparta/Luca showdown. Objections?


Sparta-Luca Showdown? :eek:

well at least macedonia didnt collapse...... altough ill miss the minoans :cry: (Reno!, ill pay you that spending point some other time in the nes when we see each other again)
 
I would've thought the combined pressure of the army that destroyed the Athenians and the one that was engaged against the Syracusans would've annihilated them...

Your army was in the south, waiting for Syracusans to attack your forts. Just so happened that the Syracusans remembered they have a fleet... ;)
Don't stop this until I've beaten the Syracusans! Please...

Well, I think you will have enough time to do that. Ofcourse, maybe its not you who will be doing the beating. :p

@das, are the red cities trade centers?

Yes, they are.

Btw, will now upload the NEW version of the stats - now with new descriptions!
 
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