Leaders of never before seen Civs - Elimination thread

[Morningcalm]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 26
Dihya (Berbers) - 15
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 27 + 1 = 28 (A mighty African Queen Mother and warrior; we could use more African leaders, and especially iconic female ones.)
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 21
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 23
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 23
Tamar (Georgia) - 24
Vlad the Impaler (Romania/Wallachia) - 5 - 3 = 2 (Unfortunately he would be overshadowed by the Dracula inspiration everyone associates him with, rather than his struggle with the Ottomans.)

 

[God of Kings]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 26
Dihya (Berbers) - 15
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 28 + 1 = 29 There needs to be more sub-Saharan African female leaders of her fame
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 21
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 23
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 23
Tamar (Georgia) - 24
Vlad the Impaler (Romania/Wallachia) - 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED Unfortunately, most people would add the vampirism aspect of Vlad to form Dracula and Firaxis would not be an exception

 

[Kimiimaro]

Didn't actually Vlad the Impaler start the war against the Ottoman Empire by invading Bulgaria and massacring over 20000 Turks in some battle?

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 26
Dihya (Berbers) - 15
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 29-3=26 - I like her, but I cannot let he run away with the prize.
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 21+1=22 - Italy deserves to become a Civ, and Lorenzo de' Medici is a great leader. He can be a good cultural leader, which would be great for Italy led by cultural Florence.
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 23
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 23
Tamar (Georgia) - 24

 

[Guandao]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 26
Dihya (Berbers) - (15-3)=12 Once again, we will have enough Boudicca type female leaders in the game eventually, and Morocco is preferable to the Berbers.
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 26
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - (23+1)=24 A solid choice to lead the Ashanti in Civ6.
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 23
Tamar (Georgia) - 25 Corrected her score, someone didn't take into account my last upvote.

 

[Manifold]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 26 but Bohemia is just a small part of his reign!
Dihya (Berbers) - 12
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 26
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 24 (23+1) maybe it is the Asian night tonight
Tamar (Georgia) - 22 (25-3) not that worldwide interesting

 

[Kimiimaro]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 26 but Bohemia is just a small part of his reign!

I guess you mean the thing he was the emperor of HRE. But:
- HRE was in Civ IV, so it's not a never before seen Civ
- HRE was an union, and the Emperor was its leader
- He is mostly known for him making the Kingdom of Bohemia one of the richest and most influental European countries. For example, he made Prague the capital of HRE.
- Also, he is beloved by Czechs. We call him "Otec vlasti" which means "the Father of the Country".

Also, maybe you've mistaken Bohemia for Bohemia. One is hostorical part of the current Czech Republic (along with Moravia and part of Silesia). The other one is the Kingdom of Bohemia, which was a medieval central European country. It later became a part of the Habsburg Monarchy and after WWI, it became independent as Czechoslovakia.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 26+1=27 - A great leader who made the Kingdom of Bohemia one of the most relevant and richest countries in Europe.
Dihya (Berbers) - 12-3=9 - I agree that I'd rather have Morocco again. However, she wouldn't be a bad choice. After all, she made it to the top 10!
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 26
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 24
Tamar (Georgia) - 22

 

[Manifold]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 24 (27-3) - It is like Washington would be the leader of Texas as Civ.
Dihya (Berbers) - 10 (9+1) Scythian in the desert
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 26
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 24
Tamar (Georgia) - 22

 

[Kimiimaro]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 24 (27-3) - It is like Washington would be the leader of Texas as Civ.

Explain why, please. And please, don't use the argument of the HRE. It was an union and the emperor didn't rule all the cities and realms. Dukes and kings did. And he led these kings and dukes. And Charles IV was both, the king of Bohemia and the emperor of HRE. So sure, he led the HRE, but he actually ruled just territories that belonged to the Kingdom of Bohemia. I'll leave a picture which territories belonged to the Czech crown/in which territories he actually ruled.

 

[Guandao]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 24
Dihya (Berbers) - (10-3)=7 I don't care much for Scythia...and I prefer Morocco to represent this region
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 26
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 24
Tamar (Georgia) - (22+1)=23 Still a great female leader choice, and the Caucasus are an unrepresented region in Civ so far.

@Kimiimaro, now it's only three people voting in this game, you, me and Manifold

 

[God of Kings]

@Kimiimaro, now it's only three people voting in this game, you, me and Manifold

...and occasionally me....

 

[Morningcalm]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 24 - 3 = 21 (Lowest on the diversity priority roster; just how many European leaders do we need?)
Dihya (Berbers) - 7
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 26 + 1 = 27 (A capable and mighty Queen Mother who is iconic in her homeland)
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 24
Tamar (Georgia) - 23

 

[Guatenadian]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 21
Dihya (Berbers) - 4 (7-3) I have no interest in the Berbers.
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 26 + 1 = 27
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 24
Tamar (Georgia) - 24 (23+1) Caucasus need some representation and who better than Tamar.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 21+1=22 - One of the best Czech kings. The Father of the Country. The man who made Bohemia strong, rich and relevant. A great warrior, builder and diplomat. An educated man. He also founded the oldest university in Central Europe.
Dihya (Berbers) - 4-3=1 - I think I'd rather see Morocco again.
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 27
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 24
Tamar (Georgia) - 24

 

[God of Kings]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 22 + 1 = 23 The Czechs deserve a civ
Dihya (Berbers) - 1 - 3 = ELIMINATED Morocco is better
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 27
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 23
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 24
Tamar (Georgia) - 24

 

[Guandao]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 23
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 27
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - (23+1)=24 I think she is the most interesting leader choice for Madagascar, and I would love to see Madagascar added to the game.
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - (24-3)=21 As much I would like to see him and Tibet added to the game, it seems very unlikely. Firaxis has added Potala Palace as a wonder, Songtsen Gampo himself as a Great Prophet, and eventually Tibetan looking stupas and Tufan (medieval Tibet) as a playable Civ in a scenario. It's like they are saying "we would like to add Tibet, but can't because of political reasons, so we add these stuff instead". Plus, I'm still not fond of a religious victory, which the Civ would be geared towards.
Tamar (Georgia) - 24

 

[Kimiimaro]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 23
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 27
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 22+1=23 - Italy deserves to be in Civ - it's a perfect Civ where the alternate leader mechanic can be used. And I think Florence under Lorenzo de' Medici is a great choice for being one of Italian city-states that would lead Italy.
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 24
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 21-3=18 - He is a great prophet already and Tibet seems unlikely. Also, I suspect that he would be somewhat similar to Jayavarman VII - religious empire builder.
Tamar (Georgia) - 24

 

[Guandao]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 23
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 27
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 23
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 24
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - (18-3)=15 Just seems unlikely to happen. I see the other leader choices as more likely to happen.
Tamar (Georgia) - (24+1)=25 Strong female leader, and one of the greatest rulers of Georgia.

 

[Morningcalm]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 23 - 3 = 20 (Most boring option here. I don't contest his being "worthy" but if it's leaders of never before seen civs we are after, why pick Charles IV of Bohemia? We already have one Holy Roman Emperor.)
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 27 + 1 = 28 (Oceania gets little attention, and they are a great cultural addition; see, e.g. the happy praise for Civ V's Polynesia. Maori music and warriors would be great to see in the game)
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 27
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 23 *glares at European option*
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 24
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 15
Tamar (Georgia) - 25 *You at least are a female leader of a somewhat less European cultural civ*

 

[Xandinho]

Charles IV (Bohemia) - 20
Hongi Hika (Maori) - 28
Nemequene (Muisca) - 25
Idia (Benin) - 27
Lorenzo de' Medici (Florence/Italy) - 23 + 1 = 24 Just because I would like to have an Italian civ with two capitals: Venice and Florence.
Ranavalona I (Madagascar) - 24
Osei Kofi Tutu I (Ashanti) - 24
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet) - 15
Tamar (Georgia) - 25 - 3 = 22 If developers observe our discussion forums here, I'll be a bit convinced that her will be added to civ6 at some point, much has been said about her here, as well as being a meme during revelations of the leaders last year. She is a great choice, of course, but I prefer Armenia instead of Georgia.