AdamCrock
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Have Your sweet time ! Nobody is pushing You ! 
If You wish to read it than read all ! ^^
If You wish to read it than read all ! ^^
Let's Read the Bible Once
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) and decided to wipe em out with a global flood. But there was one good person and he was commanded to build a huge boat of gopher wood. 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, 30 tall. What's a cubit? Maybe a meter? That would be a lot of work. Bet his sons had to help.
Gah! The Orthodox Christians have their own Bible too? (With even more books?)
Everyone forgets that the Protestants didn't have the first schism with Mother Church.
I need a scorecard to keep up.
A cubit is the length of the forearm from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger. According to Google Calculator (which uses the Biblical cubit), 1 cubit is 0.46m, or 1.5 feet. 300 cubits (the length of the ark) is 137.16m/450 feet, 50 cubits (the width of the ark) is 22.86m/75 feet, 30 cubits (the height of the ark) is 13.72m/45 feet, and 15 cubits (the level of water above the tallest mountains) is 6.86m/22.5 feet.
Sweet!
And here's a 450 foot long yacht
https://bangordailynews.com/2012/10...id-geffens-yacht-drops-anchor-off-bar-harbor/
Must have been a tight squeeze in there. And a lot of gopher wood. I'm sure it was a no smoking voyage.
Considering the ark was a huge box instead of a yacht, I'd imagine there's more space than that thing. 
Also, nobody really knows what gopher wood is, but it's likely to have been pitched (ie. covered in tar so that it doesn't rot). There's a theory that the flood only covered the Middle-East, which was the world to Noah and his family, so he only had to take animals that were found there - I'd imagine that getting an elephant on an ark of those dimensions would be fairly hard!
Also, nobody really knows what gopher wood is, but it's likely to have been pitched (ie. covered in tar so that it doesn't rot). There's a theory that the flood only covered the Middle-East, which was the world to Noah and his family, so he only had to take animals that were found there - I'd imagine that getting an elephant on an ark of those dimensions would be fairly hard!
For the past few years, I have been slowly making my way through the Bible. I am using a annotated Bible and Bible commentary. I usually read the commentary for a block (usually a chapter), then read the block in the Bible while reading the annotations and reading the verses cited in the annotation. Then I go back and read the entire chapter. When I finish a book of the Bible, I go back and read the book from start to finish.
I have finished the Old Testament and now am in the middle of the Apocrypha (no one church includes all the books - the Catholics fall short and the churches that include books that the Catholics don't also fall short somewhere along the line). I really want to make a push to get this done this year. I think I am aboout to get into the more historical bools of the Apocrypha (which look like that will move faster based on the annotations). Once I get through the Gospels, I will be close enough to the finish line to make a real push.
I have finished the Old Testament and now am in the middle of the Apocrypha (no one church includes all the books - the Catholics fall short and the churches that include books that the Catholics don't also fall short somewhere along the line). I really want to make a push to get this done this year. I think I am aboout to get into the more historical bools of the Apocrypha (which look like that will move faster based on the annotations). Once I get through the Gospels, I will be close enough to the finish line to make a real push.
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Gah! The Orthodox Christians have their own Bible too? (With even more books?)
Everyone forgets that the Protestants didn't have the first schism with Mother Church.
I need a scorecard to keep up.
The various groups called Orthodox Christians have several Bibles. Syrians and Ethiopians both have their own canons. I think the Ethiopian is the longest. Hope you can read Ge'ez.
Oh, and Johnny Cash's reading of the New Testament is the best audio Bible there is. He just kind of sounds like God, if God had an American accent.
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Once you get to Solomon, you should maybe make a small diversion and read the Kebra Nagast (or part of it). Its a fascinating piece of literature from an Ethiopian perspective about the seizure of the Ark of the Covenant from Jerusalem to Ethiopia via Queen Sheba's son
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Reading the Bible would be (too me) like reading a textbook. Some parts have a more (novel) flow to them. In my teens, I read the Bible in it's entirety several times a year. The geneologies do not get any eaiseir to read, unless one has the option of comparing them to other geneologies of the same "time" period for historical sake.
The other hard reading is all of the tasks involved in keeping the Law and all the sacrifices/offerings one must carry out. I don't understand how all that detail can be viewed as a metaphor. The dark age "christians" had nothing on the detail and requirements that stone age Hebrews placed on themselves.
OT: The reason that the US "mind set" when it comes to the differences between the three "branches" of the "abrahamist" is because the "protestant" view has been the major view taught in most public schools and colleges for the majority of it's existence. This sentiment even showed up this week in the comment made by the Ohio State president regarding Notre Dame. Being different from Europe in that the "church" did not make formal legislation regarding government did not rule out the fact that "protestant" and the influence of Biblical teachings did not exist in the formation of what makes the US what it was for the first 200 years.
As a non protestant, non catholic, non Jew, non muslim follower of the Bible, the way other "religions" view what is written in the Bible has been interpreted to fit each religions perspective. I would go so far to say that unless one worships satan, even eastern religions "worship" the same God, since there is only one creator, but each person may view that creator as split entities. They have no concept of God is all. They see storms and create a god to fit that storm. They see the sun and create a god to fit that position. It is not that there are multiple gods, but humans just created multiple instances of the same being that would be God to them.
There are books that the Hebrews did not include in their canon that many groups later did. Because some protestants in the last 400 years decided to leave them out seems to be irrelevant other than to keep rehashing the old arguments why they should be included or not. We probably do not even have any arguments today other than the protestants leave them out which does not seem to be a very substantial argument.
The other hard reading is all of the tasks involved in keeping the Law and all the sacrifices/offerings one must carry out. I don't understand how all that detail can be viewed as a metaphor. The dark age "christians" had nothing on the detail and requirements that stone age Hebrews placed on themselves.
OT: The reason that the US "mind set" when it comes to the differences between the three "branches" of the "abrahamist" is because the "protestant" view has been the major view taught in most public schools and colleges for the majority of it's existence. This sentiment even showed up this week in the comment made by the Ohio State president regarding Notre Dame. Being different from Europe in that the "church" did not make formal legislation regarding government did not rule out the fact that "protestant" and the influence of Biblical teachings did not exist in the formation of what makes the US what it was for the first 200 years.
As a non protestant, non catholic, non Jew, non muslim follower of the Bible, the way other "religions" view what is written in the Bible has been interpreted to fit each religions perspective. I would go so far to say that unless one worships satan, even eastern religions "worship" the same God, since there is only one creator, but each person may view that creator as split entities. They have no concept of God is all. They see storms and create a god to fit that storm. They see the sun and create a god to fit that position. It is not that there are multiple gods, but humans just created multiple instances of the same being that would be God to them.
There are books that the Hebrews did not include in their canon that many groups later did. Because some protestants in the last 400 years decided to leave them out seems to be irrelevant other than to keep rehashing the old arguments why they should be included or not. We probably do not even have any arguments today other than the protestants leave them out which does not seem to be a very substantial argument.
The Noah verse "Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years." confused me when I read it when I was younger. Many people think it means that "people will live to 120", which doesn't make sense considering all the multi-century people listed in those chapters. I later thought it was a prediction as to when the Flood would come.
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Tried a couple of times, but its just such a mediocre book I didn't get far.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
But that contradicts clearly what the Bible says the level of the water was above the highest mountain and my a long margin. It cannot be simply local since the waters will run away and not cover the highest mountain. Also God gave them a symbol of the rainbow that he will never send such a flood again. Considering that flooding is a rather commonplace thing, then either God was lying, or the flood was a global event. A local flood is not something you can get out of a simple reading of the passage. Also the timing of the flood is one year, which no flooding event we have seen last that long.Considering the ark was a huge box instead of a yacht, I'd imagine there's more space than that thing.
You can't even get whether it was two or seven of every kind of animal - it appears to be a mishmash of at least a couple of stories common to the area.
Hope this thread rekindles your interest and you get the whole thing read too
Apocrypha too.
I like Johnny Cash. I'll try to find it if I get that far and the reading bogs down thanks.
I'm not sure I want to branch out just yet and read the Apocrypha books and Kebra Nagast
Not even at 1% of the new King James Bible yet!
Whatever happened to the Ark of the Covenant anyway?
Ya I can't figure out if I'm confusing myself or not.
Genesis Chapter 7 Verse 2 and 3:
2) Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
3) Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
And the clean beasts and clean fowl got taken of for cooked offerings, so either 2 pair became 1 pair or 1 male got taken and left 1 male and 2 females or maybe there really were 7 pairs of the clean ones.
Archaic language heh. Maybe that lego Bible has an illustration. Hopefully no dinosaurs waving goodbye.
Read it, skipping the begat begat begat baguette crap. Then read all of Erhman's commentary on it. Was far more fun to realize just how hard you have to work to maintain the bible is inerrant and that holds no contradictions -- basically you have to not read it with an eye more critical than a child's.
Then there is Genesis 6:19-20:
19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
