LINESII- Into the Darkness

[jalapeno_dude]

As this has already been discussed, we affirm to a new Non-Agression pact between our peoples.

We confirm this.

 

[Luckymoose]

From Orum
To Citadel

The people of Orum are thankful for your support and bringing bronze into our culture.

 

[The Farow]

From Croyodon
To Gorin

We would be delighted to oversee and fund the construction of a road between our two territories. We, however, would like to wait until the threat of the Lengels has passed before we begin construction. Our money could train that extra 1000 troops that saves our country.

From Croyodon
To Gorin and Skilv'so

We purpose the remaining land between our three nations be divided as below. With the deserts in the north making it harder for Croyodon to support her population we wish for some of the grasslands in the south.

Green- Goes to Croyodon
Red- Goes to Skilv'so
Purple- Goes to Gorin

 

[Lord_Iggy]

iggy could you put up the casualties for the Lengel, total bitte

Huh? All of the Lengel casualties are shown.

how does that make them any more civilized than Eskimos?

I have some Inuit friends who would punch you for that. They have central administration, which the Inuit never had, other than 'Matriarch of the Igloo'.

Also, don't you think our casualties are a bit too heavy? The worst casualties are always suffered while attacking good defensive positions or retreating - neither happened here, and we even had a certain surprise effect.

There was some more fighting with Tristaria after you finished your advance that I didn't mention. Sorry it was about 3 AM when I wrote that bit, and I had to cut a few corners.

And Iggy, why did you build Farport on that meaningless speck of an island (which wasn't even on the map last turn) instead of the island that we clearly agreed on with Verta--the nice, small, oval one to the southeast of Exilsium that would be a perfect base for explorations? Can you change that and pretend it never happened?

That's the one that Exilsium wanted you on, sorry. It's just as nice an island, though smaller.

and Iggy, i really don't see how cavalry of any kind can break through walls, unless they are made out of steel or something.

Temporary siege tactics. And the Lengel's aren't all cavalry, they have infantry as well.

@Darkening- I'm sorry, allow me to answer your grievances.

Yet it took one year to conqour the entire nation? What, did I just prop up up some pointy sticks and die?

Dude, the full power of the Lengel Horde fell on you. It's nothing to be ashamed of, if you think that way (which I actually kinda doubt, so nevermind). Your entire army was in the fortifications in the Kerans, but it was spread out through 4 major passes. That was a quarter of your army defending the one that the first Lengel force attacked.

WTH?! I ordered for scouting to be done extensively, and at the first sight of the Lengels for word to be sent for the other armies to gather! I should have had plenty of time to gather much more of my forces at the sight and prepare for battle BEHIND the walls. Did my people just forgot how to supply theirselves and just die off? And did they forget how to attack them from behind the walls, my biggest strategy?

Arrows. Constant barrages of them. And infantry raids. Trust me, I followed your defensive strategies. The Lengels were simply overwhelming.

What, did they forget how to build a fire? They way you descirbe it makes me believe that my generals were plain idiots.

No, they were minimalist by absolute necessity. There were fires of course, but shelter was limited. They were mostly in tents. The Lengels suffered too, but they had numbers to absorb the blow.

And the Lengels attacked in more than one group, so your armies were spread. Just to confirm that.

I'd like to say that I'm sorry ~Darkening~. Against any other enemy that was smaller, your defenses would have held out. But the Lengels had the sheer numbers needed to crack the Keran Wall.

BTW, the troops who I mentioned in the 'last defense of Davar' were extra civilian volunteers, not the army in your orders, so don't worry, your army was exactly where you ordered it.

So, anyway, you have a few choices. You could take another NPC (Norvalin would be interesting) and wait until the Lengels begin to break up (as all massive, terrifying empires inevitably do) to retake Davar, or maybe lead a few exiles off to some obscure island. Or you could lead an active resistance, but I'd advise against that, as that would likely result in your total genocide.

 

[das]

Temporary siege tactics.

Clarification?

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Building rams from nearby materials, using infantry and the ram to break down a wall, then abandoning the heavy ram once a way through has been broken.

 

[das]

Technically I just had a much better idea than that, but if I tell it now and Contempt will invade me using it, I will feel very stupid indeed. So I'll just leave it at that.

 

[alex994]

Cities generally surrender when surrounded, particularly by large and angry Lengel hordes that cut off all of their supplies. The concept of serious siege warfare didn't exist until the Middle Ages (with the exception of Athens during the Peloponnesian War).

The Chinese, being so much more superior to everyone, had massive sieges taking place during the Romance of the Three Kingdoms with sieges going on for years and even before

Iggy, as a clarification, who does Guangfei have contact with? In addition, why haven't Shangei and Shysang been incorporated into Guangfei proper? As they're not autonomous or anything... Are they? And how did the shrine thingy go to?

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Iggy, as a clarification, who does Guangfei have contact with? In addition, why haven't Shangei and Shysang been incorporated into Guangfei proper? As they're not autonomous or anything... Are they? And how did the shrine thingy go to?

Guangfei has contact with Sintonia, New Veritas, Nurmafer, and indirectly, the Bladeists and Emor.

There's a border between you and Shangei and Shysang because there's still some ethnic differences. They will be gone soon.

The shrine did fine, but it wasn't enough to get a cultural center. Frankly, you're on the ragged edge of abusing the 3-city system.

 

[alex994]

Ah... may I inquire how I'm abusing the 3 city system?

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Trying to turn every single city into a center. It doesn't really work, unfortunately.

 

[Oruc]

To Gamorrean Rebels
From Malkavia

Fine we'll stop the attack and help you defeat the High priest, of course you'll need to tell us where about he and his supporters are.

Trying to turn every single city into a center. It doesn't really work, unfortunately.

Not as bad as I wanted to do if Malkavia went belly-up

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Guangfei has contact with Sintonia, New Veritas, Nurmafer, and indirectly, the Bladeists and Emor.

And presumably I know about them, since New Veritas does?

 

[alex994]

Trying to turn every single city into a center. It doesn't really work, unfortunately.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I will mend my ways. Hopefully

EDIT: I forgot, I loved the update, especially the part about Tristaria's King

 

[Silver Steak]

From: Shalamari
To: Whomever it may concern

We hereby remind you that the Kingdom of Gerber is a member of the CRA. Any offensive action taken against Gerber will be treated as an offensive action against the entire CRA, and dealt with accordingly. Have a good day.

 

[alex994]

OOC: Out of mere curiosity, what is the purpose of the Chipland and Svitzland being countries when their land on the map is frankly smaller then a city in addition to them having no cities at all? I mean, don't they kinda waste work on the stats?

 

[Silver Steak]

They will most likely be a small entry in the Swade stats. Or so I believe. Or, I have presented a very handy solution for Iggy.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

They will most likely be a small entry in the Swade stats. Or so I believe. Or, I have presented a very handy solution for Iggy.

Pardon me, Iggy, for posting in your NES once again, but I'm in the local equivalent of police pursuit, trying to track down a moderator who isn't updating.

GET BACK HERE SILVER STEAK! (Unless, of course, you're busy thinking of random events and the update will be posted in minutes.)

 

[Swissempire]

The Swade Puppet States are contries in their own right, ruled by Ascendants, but subservant to the Ascendant Master, who is also Hegemon of the Swade Hegemony. And SS, any offensive actions taken against Swade Puppet States will be an attack on the Metalia Pact. With the Lengel Hord threatening, i doubt a major war between out alliances is smart.

And Svizterland is big enough to hold two major cities, while Chipland could hold one....

 

[Lord_Iggy]

SVITZERLAND??? It could barely hold anything!