Moronic Anti-Videogame hit piece

I'll never call for censoring the news media. Even if it would be for the best it would be wrong to censor the news because it could lead to other problems.

But, again, I simply refuse to go down the road where we go on a censoring rampage.

When I speak of journalistic integrity, I mean taking pride in your work and censoring yourself -- editing yourself, acting with dignity, producing something that is worthy of attention and which isn't just ratings-pandering that emphasizes profit and nothing else. The state/government shouldn't be involved. It should be done by the media themselves, out of respect for the position they hold in society as journalists.
 
Jokes aside, no. I'm not a CoD fan either ( there are at least 3 or 4 series I like better ) but banning Call of Duty is not necessary or fair.

In joke mode, sure, lolz and all that. Battlefield>CoD, etc. etc.

When I speak of journalistic integrity, I mean taking pride in your work and censoring yourself -- editing yourself, acting with dignity, producing something that is worthy of attention and which isn't just ratings-pandering that emphasizes profit and nothing else. The state/government shouldn't be involved. It should be done by the media themselves, out of respect for the position they hold in society as journalists.

I think they're too busy racing Fox News to the bottom to worry about such trifling things. Judging by MSNBC the last year or so I'm not even 100% sure Fox is in the lead anymore.
 
What about movie licenced games can we ban those? Think of all the children man, think of the children!!!!
 
When I speak of journalistic integrity, I mean taking pride in your work and censoring yourself -- editing yourself, acting with dignity, producing something that is worthy of attention and which isn't just ratings-pandering that emphasizes profit and nothing else. The state/government shouldn't be involved. It should be done by the media themselves, out of respect for the position they hold in society as journalists.

One good example is not giving the names of the recently dead until the family has between informed. Or the increasingly common practice of not reporting on suicide more than the bare minimum because it has been shown suicide ideation can be promoted by reportage on it.
 
I'm emphatically not saying it should be banned or restricted but Manhunt really was disgusting and pointless. I still don't really like the fact that Rockstar made it. GTA is all about freedom and mayhem. It's a completely legitimate exercise in craziness that happens to use a "criminal action movie" backdrop to sew it all together. Manhunt was just sadism and button pushing for no reason. Postal was also worthless in the same way.
 
The least you could do is use the CBS article which is the basis for the Reuters one:

Newtown shooter motivated by Norway massacre, sources say

Law enforcement sources say Adam Lanza was motivated by violent video games and a strong desire to kill more people than another infamous mass murderer.

Sources say Lanza saw himself as being in direct competition with Anders Breivik, a Norwegian man who killed 77 people in July 2011.

Breivik killed eight with a bombing in downtown Oslo. He then moved to a nearby island where hunted down and fatally shot 69 people, mostly teenagers attending a summer camp.

Two officials who have been briefed on the Newtown, Conn., investigation say Lanza wanted to top Breivik's death toll and targeted nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School because it was the "easiest target" with the "largest cluster of people."

Evidence shows that his mind, sources say, Lanza was also likely acting out the fantasies of a video game as he killed 20 first graders and six adults at the school. For Lanza, the deaths apparently amounted to some kind of "score."

But Lanza ended his killing spree sooner than he intended. Unlike Breivik, who surrendered, Lanza killed himself as police closed in. Just before his suicide, Lanza fired some shots at police in the school's parking lot.

Officials have not publicly revealed what led them to the motive, but sources say investigators have found evidence Lanza was obsessed with Breivik.

They've also recovered what they called a "trove" of video games from the basement of Lanza's home. Sources say Lanza spent countless hours there alone, in a private gaming room with the windows blacked out, honing his computer shooting skills.

Lanza also made multiple visits to nearby gun ranges with his mother, Nancy Lanza, where they practiced together with actual weapons. Three guns, all registered to Nancy Lanza, were used in the Sandy Hook massacre. Lanza used a fourth weapon to kill his mother before his attack on the school.

EDITOR'S NOTE: In response to this piece, Lt. J. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police told CBS News that the investigation into the motive for the Newtown shooting has not been completed and therefore any statements about the shooter's intent are mere speculation.
So it isn't the media which is stating this at all. It is some law enforcement "sources" who are "speculating".

Furthermore, that article had a link to this one:

Violent video games and mass violence: A complex link

Following the tragedies, Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the National Rifle Association, said that, besides putting armed guards in every schools, the country should look closer at "vicious, violent video games," singling out titles like "Bulletstorm," "Grand Theft Auto," "Mortal Kombat" and "Splatterhouse"

In January, Vice President Joe Biden met with video game makers and other groups, including the broadcast and film industry and mental health experts, to come up with broader ideas to reduce gun violence. Ralph Nader went as far as calling makers of violent video games "electronic child molesters."

Some lawmakers have also called for restrictions on violent video games, but CBS News correspondent Chip Reid reported in January that in 2011 the Supreme Court struck down a California statute banning the sale of violent video games for people under 18, saying the games were protected under the First Amendment. The industry voluntarily rates games for violence and mature content.

Dr. Christopher Ferguson, department chair of psychology and communications at Texas A&M International University in Laredo, says he has not come across any link between playing violent video games and likelihood for violent behavior.

Ferguson, who presented for Biden's task force in January, said many people understand at this point that most people who play violent video games won't become violent themselves and that there is a mental health component at play. That's different from after Columbine, he said, when many questions were raised about video games as motivations for violence. However, his studies, which have looked at people with mental health issues, including those prone to bullying violence, have found no added risk.

"We can't find any evidence that those kids are affected either," Ferguson told CBSNews.com, referring to children with mental health problems.

Ferguson argues that youth violence has been at a 40-year low, while violent video games remain popular. He finds it interesting how in the wake of Sandy Hook, video games have gotten a lot of blame, but when high-profile shootings involve older adults -- like 65-year-old Jimmy Lee Dykes, who shot a bus driver then kidnapped a 5-year-old and kept him in a bunker for days, or 62-year-old William Spengler, who allegedly shot and killed two first responders and injured two more firefighters in December after strangling his sister -- people don't look for similar sources to blame.

"A 70-year-old does it and nobody talks [video games],"
he said.

Even if Lanza did play these violent video games, he said, it's "nonsense" to think that a tragedy could have been prevented by removing them from the equation. For example, the 32-year-old Breivik also claimed to be a fan of violent video games such as "Call of Duty," and "World of Warcraft" and said he honed his shooting skills with the games. However, his long manifesto contained even more information on the Byzantine Empire and Muslim expansion, so why not ban history books too, Ferguson wondered.

He concedes many scholars who disagree with him are researching in good faith, but he wonders if spending national attention and money on these issue is worthwhile.

"What's interesting is how eager some segments of society are to grab onto this narrative of violence in video games, just like it was comic books in the 1950s," said Ferguson. "You sometimes see that in a period of moral panic ... It gives us a sense of control over things we can't control."

So this isn't a "moronic anti-video game hit piece" at all. It is merely professional journalists doing their jobs covering the news.

If you want to blame those who are really responsible for the recent fear mongering and paranoia in this regard, blame Wayne LaPierre, the NRA, and Ralph Nader, not those who are merely reporting what they state.
 
Ugh, it's even worse than I thought.

Here we go. First amendment don't fail me now.

EDIT: lol, accidentally wrote second amendment the first time. If anyone saw that it was a typo and not some cryptic threat.
 
What's even worse than you thought? That a few law enforcement "sources" are trying to blame video games? Did you really expect anything different when so many Americans believe this, especially Republicans?

NJ.com Poll: Do you blame video games, movies for tragedies like Newtown shooting?

Will you limit violent content for your kids? (Poll Closed)

Yes. I returned video games on my kids' holiday gift list and talked to them about violence. 28.43% (145 votes)

No. There is no link between entertainment and kids behavior. 57.65% (294 votes)

I don't think movies are to blame, but I will try anything to end violence. 13.92% (71 votes)

Republicans Blame Video Games, Not Guns, For Gun Violence

Republicans are more likely to place the blame for gun violence on video games, not guns, according to a recent poll from Public Policy Polling. Sixty seven percent of Republicans believe that such games are a “bigger safety threat” than firearms — only 14 percent think the reverse.

The only problem? There’s no data to support that position. There is evidence that limiting access to guns can help limit violence wrought by those machines. In particular, there’s evidence to show that the Assault Weapons Ban helped to limit gun violence on the Mexican-American border. And in states where gun ownership is high and gun laws are lax, violence rates are higher.

On the other hand, there’s absolutely no conclusive evidence showing that video games are the root cause of violence. There are countries with much lower rates of violence that have much higher consumption of video games.
You should be blaming Fox News for spreading such propaganda, as well as the schools for not properly educating the American public to the point where so many of them even lack the ability to think critically.
 
Look, this fight is far from over. I think that my side may even be the favorite to win it. That poll, while small, is certainly not the bloodbath I would have expected. I just don't like having to deal with it again every few years.

The first few days after Sandy Hook I was sad just like everyone else. It wasn't about gun control or game censorship or anything else, I was just genuinely sad that so many people lost their young lives.

Now they've beaten and wrung it out of me and I've been robbed of even the ability to have genuine feelings about it. I think I resent that more than any other single part of this.
 
You should have grown up during the 60s when they blamed cartoons and comic books.

The only thing that will likely change is the updated excuse for deliberately ignoring the real issues.
 
Now they've beaten and wrung it out of me and I've been robbed of even the ability to have genuine feelings about it. I think I resent that more than any other single part of this.

That's tragedy exploitation for you. And I don't think anyone can blame you for your reaction. Doesn't matter what the goal is; TSA rape, violent media censorship, gun bans, military invasions, etc. It's all a bunch of hot air. A tragedy in the right spot means moral panic and fear which is fuel for agenda-mongering from every side.
 
You know what the weirdest part is? If they banned GTA5 it would instantly ascend to gaming legend. It's like they don't even care that bans have the opposite of the intended effect. I can imagine being 14 and modding my Xbox360 and hearing about this game that was so badass that the government was confiscating it.

I would've gone to any lengths to acquire and play such a game. I don't imagine kids a few years later are any different.
 
Well, I don't think you'll have too much to worry about. If violent music, movies and porn have survived this long then violent video games are in good shape too.

I mean there was even moral panic about nerds and graph paper before.
 
Its too bad you can't toss Steam into a big pile and burn it eh?

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I think Carras is just trying to make me more paranoid with that picture :mischief:

You know what the sad truth is? We won't have violent video game censorship, but not for the right reasons. We shouldn't have violent video game censorship because of free expression, but we won't have it mostly because of corporate lobbying.
 
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