"Hillary should be shot"

[Kaitzilla]

In the sixties there were seven assassinations. In the seventies, eight. Six in the eighties (including Lennon). Five in the nineties (not including Tupac). Since 2001 there have been three.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinations

So, yeah, less violent.

How famous does one have to get before your murder is called an assassination?
I've never understood where the line is.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

How famous does one have to get before your murder is called an assassination?
I've never understood where the line is.

Depends who is updating the wikipedia assassination list at the time. Send me ten dollars and make sure I'm notified and I'll put you on the list even if you die of old age.

Heck, send me twenty and I'll put you on tomorrow.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Depends who is updating the wikipedia assassination list at the time. Send me ten dollars and make sure I'm notified and I'll put you on the list even if you die of old age.

Heck, send me twenty and I'll put you on tomorrow.

Sold!

Pencil me in with "cleverly placed bag of pretzels" as the cause of death please.

 

[Zelig]

Sanders-Ellison 2020?

As much fun as it would be for Larry Ellison to run for president, it's probably getting too late for him.

 

[Old Hippy]

I'm waiting for the waterboarding of Hillary, to get a confession about 'things ' before I make up my mind as to wether she should be shot or not



edit : changed the tense a bit after reading BJ's comment

 

[Birdjaguar]

for what it is worth, the secret service is investigating the remark.

 

[Takhisis]

It's a big deal in that it shows just how deluded these numbskulls are. On the one hand to talk about Rule of Law as the single most important thing and then advocate extrajudicial outcomes...

They'd change the law to suit their purposes… not that it is within the rule of law to criminalise actions retroactively, of course.

They aren't multiplying? Fooled me.

We haven't had an attempt on the life of a candidate since Wallace, I don't think, but I'd say that 2016 is the year where I would be the least surprised since. And without question this year is number one in arrests for violent confrontations at campaign events, at least in decades if not ever. So that "less violent" claim seems specious as well.

Also, Drumpf proclaimed his backing for the UKIP/Johnson Make Britain Great Again capmaign, and has somehow ignored the murder of a Remain by a demented Leave supporter there.

for what it is worth, the secret service is investigating the remark.

Not exactly secret, are they?

 

[Zkribbler]

At least the Republicans are coming out honestly with the kind of "democracy" they think would be great; jail the opposition, or even better just shoot them. I'm sure that's in the constitution somewhere.

According to the Supreme Court, the "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" clause of the Constitution bars capital punishment for any act except the actual killing of someone.

 

[_random_]

As much fun as it would be for Larry Ellison to run for president, it's probably getting too late for him.

I was suggesting Ellison for Vice President. He's fairly young.

 

[warpus]

Shot through the heart
and Trump's to blame
Darlin' you give democracy
a bad name

 

[BvBPL]

And that's given the false premise that violent deaths are the only measure of violence. Prior to this campaign season, when is the last time you saw a guy being escorted out of a political rally by cops get assaulted right in front of those cops? When is the last previous time you saw a candidate yearn for the "good old days" when the loyal could have sent a detractor out on a stretcher.

Certainly there are other forms of violence. However, political assassinations are a good metric for this discussion for several reasons. Primarily, when we are talking about someone threatening to assassinate a political candidate, well then the number of assassinations is simply the most relevant measurement of violence. It is also the most severe form of violence; violent speech and even arrests are simply in different classes. Finally, the number of assassinations are relatively small making it far easier to plot over time than other forms of violence.

First off, you include Lennon and exclude Tupac...which is fine, but begs the question "just who is on this list?" and we find that while discussing violence in politics you have linked some sort of general "assassination" list that doesn't really even claim to be connected to politics.

Building on that, there doesn't seem to be any indication how the usually suspect 'wikipedians' differentiated "assassinations" from the greater backdrop of "murders" other than by the usual wikipedia pure willy-nilly method. In short, the list not only doesn't claim to be relevant to this discussion, it is actually completely worthless in any discussion.

Wikipedia's article does provide guidance on what it includes as an assassination. However, it is in many ways a judgment call on what is and what is not an assassination, or what is and what is not a political assassination. I couldn't tell you why the Wikipedia article lists Tupac and not Dimebag Darrell. I removed Tupac and Oswald because they seemed the least political parties, although I know that sets a low bar for inclusion. Even if you remove the abortion doctors, Lennon, and other not particularly political people, it still shows that the present environment has the markedly fewer assassinations than other areas.

The Wikipedia list was helpful for its expedience. I could not at the time find a more definitive and contemporary list of American assassinations. Nor can I find a satisfactory one at this time.

 

[Takhisis]

According to the Supreme Court, the "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" clause of the Constitution bars capital punishment for any act except the actual killing of someone.

Which is why Hillary Clinton should be prevented from using her devil democrat congress and a new Justice of the Supreme Court should be issued now. Now, I say!

 

[FriendlyFire]

I'm still waiting for a Jew or Muslim to win the Dem nomination. That would send 'em right over the edge.

But Obama is a Muslim

 

[Zkribbler]

But Obama is a Muslim

The GOP has been over the edge ever since.

 

[abradley]

Don't know about being shoot, but if I'd pulled her email type security breaches, it would be Ft Leavenworth prison for a long long time.

That's what should happen to her.

For a long, long, long time.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Don't know about being shoot, but if I'd pulled her email type security breaches, it would be Ft Leavenworth prison for a long long time.

That's what should happen to her.

For a long, long, long time.

Uranium fissions, and that fission can be induced. I just committed the same "crime" if you want to do enough research to make a case. No one cares. No one is going to track me down and send me to Leavenworth for it. Your bloated hyperbolic nonsense is the kind of thing that just makes the whole Republican position look silly.

I apologize to CFC, by the way. You now could have retroactively classified material on your server, if I were important enough for a witch hunting congressional committee to come hunting here.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Don't know about being shoot, but if I'd pulled her email type security breaches, it would be Ft Leavenworth prison for a long long time.

That's what should happen to her.

For a long, long, long time.

Remember its only Treasons when a Democrat dose it !
When a Republican dose it, its is the height of patriotism

Bush White House email controversy

The Bush White House email controversy surfaced in 2007 during the controversy involving the dismissal of eight U.S. attorneys. Congressional requests for administration documents while investigating the dismissals of the U.S. attorneys required the Bush administration to reveal that not all internal White House emails were available, because they were sent via a non-government domain hosted on an email server not controlled by the federal government. Conducting governmental business in this manner is a possible violation of the Presidential Records Act of 1978, and the Hatch Act.[1] Over 5 million emails may have been lost.[2][3] Greg Palast claims to have come up with 500 of the Karl Rove emails, leading to damaging allegations.[4] In 2009, it was announced that as many as 22 million emails may have been lost.[5]

The administration officials had been using a private Internet domain, called gwb43.com, owned by and hosted on an email server run by the Republican National Committee,[6] for various communications of unknown content or purpose. The domain name is an abbreviation for "George W. Bush, 43rd" President of the United States. The server came public when it was discovered that J. Scott Jennings, the White House's deputy director of political affairs, was using a gwb43.com email address to discuss the firing of the U.S. attorney for Arkansas.[7] Communications by federal employees were also found on georgewbush.com (registered to "Bush-Cheney '04, Inc."[8]) and rnchq.org (registered to "Republican National Committee"[9]), but, unlike these two servers, gwb43.com has no Web server connected to it — it is used only for email.[10]

The Hatch Act prohibits the use of government resources, including email accounts, for political purposes. The Bush administration stated the RNC accounts were used to prevent violation of this Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_Ho...ail_controversy

 

[Nexlev]

If I understand New Hampshire at all, I don't think this will go over well there. We'll see, but I think the voters will take care of it.

 

[abradley]

Remember its only Treasons when a Democrat dose it !
When a Republican dose it, its is the height of patriotism

So because somebody in the past ignored the law and got away with it (if that's what happened?) it's ok to do it now?

 

[Old Hippy]

So because somebody in the past ignored the law and got away with it (if that's what happened?) it's ok to do it now?

No, the republicans should go after Bush in a witch hunt, its never too late, it would set a precedent to go after Hillary. They could also investigate every Represented and Senator to make sure there are no security risks there or they could make sure everyone is aware of the problem from now on and tighten training and security for Public officials