New NESes, ideas, development, etc

Now, a while back on the Paradox forums, there was an attempt to create a collaborative scenario for a Vicky 2 alternate scenario mod. Now, the scenario got to the point where work on the mod itself had begun, but the main guy was unable to keep up the load and the mod died.
But the scenario is still there, and I feel that it needs to be done justice somehow. There isnt really a full timeline per se, and some of this forum's purists may detest the scenario, but nevertheless I think that it could be made into an interesting 19th century NES.
The original thread can be found here.
Some highlights include:
-The Marinid Empire (Morocco) became the sea-spanning colonial empire, rather than Spain.
-The United Kingdom of England and France (founded during the Hundred Years War) has recently collapsed, and now a multitude of successor states fight for its remains.
-The Byzantines survived much longer, but were overrun by Hellenized Turks shortly before the start.
-The latest Chinese dynasty struggled to maintain control, and now it too has collapsed.
-The Jagiellonian dynasty, Durrani Empire, Tibet, and Korea were all much stronger (and larger) than OTL.
-VASTLY different colonies, including a global knightly order.
-A Muslim Inca Empire.

I'd like some feedback on the idea.
 
Click on the link of 'list of tags', then go up a few posts and a working map should be there.

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Nope! Looks like the guy behind the mod deleted everything— including the imageshack hosted map.
 
Danish Empire in the far east? I am interested, though I might be crazy busy with other NESes and work. :undecide:
 
Too fractured. Doesn't look like there'll be much global interaction.
 
Yeah, that would be it. My internet decided to die off before I could post, so thanks Zelet.

Dachs: Could you elaborate? I don't really see how there wouldn't be global interaction.
 
Probably because the factions in Europe are too weak to project power overseas, especially with so many powers outside of Europe being strengthened.
 
Well I'd totally play in it regardless. :)

I do think it has potential for global interaction without the Might Of Europe dictating how everything goes.
 
I would also participate in this.
 
I do think it has potential for global interaction without the Might Of Europe dictating how everything goes.
There's no Might of Anybody. Everybody with an Atlantic coastline has a piece of the Americas and West Africa - you'd think that those possessions wouldn't be worth having for the smaller powers, just like when they stopped maintaining them in OTL. Indonesia does not appear to be based on anything at all. But this isn't really a post about historicity or plausibility.

Europe is still clearly dominant somehow, despite the fact that the only states that own significant overseas possessions seem to generally be weak elsewhere (I suppose this is a game-balance idea, but it makes very little sense in terms of power politics, not to mention realism). The Dutch appear to be running the Viceroyalties of Rio de la Plata and Peru, along with the Spice Islands and Australia. The Marinids run New Granada. Scotland controls The Part of North America Worth Having. I guess Portugal and that thing that looks like Burgundy are also in the mix, but they're quite a few rungs down from the next up.

There do not seem to be any regional hegemons outside of Europe, which features the immortal Jagiellonian Empire; the Kaiserreich incarnation of Russia; and both Sweden and Denmark, which doesn't make any sense at all, especially given that the Dutch and the Scots (?) are so powerful. Outside Europe, countries that control lots of stuff tend to only rule stuff that's barely worth ruling, if at all. Either Tibet or Bengal controlling the other is a hilarious notion beyond the year 1000 or so. And it's remarkably how closely the borders between that thing in Moghulistan and that thing in Mongolia and the Western Regions coincide with the modern Chinese border with the Central Asian republics.

Anyway. Global interaction. There's no reason for the overwhelming majority of European states to have any dialogue whatsoever with anybody else, and nobody else has ties to other regions. Nobody except the Dutch and the Russians cares about the Far East, unless that Japan has been partitioned between European powers and is jointly run by the Dutch, what appears to be Anjou, and something that looks kinda like the Republic of Ezo. In India, there appear to be approximately a zillion European powers with interests in the area, none of whom are particularly powerful, so while it might be interesting, the whole area is more or less a crapshoot. And in America it's just the same players doing the same things as back in Europe, except they're all too weak for anybody to care.

The setting reminds me too much of the das Guess the PoD map that ended up being known as the "Arcadia setting". It's too fractured for the gameplay to be very interesting, but it's also too uneven for there to be a semblance of game balance. There are so many countries that only a tiny percentage of them will ever have players, and of those an even smaller amount will have players who send orders that a worth a damn - even the Arcadia setting had this problem, and it was not nearly as "shattered" as this one is.
 
The Dachslap is always swift and brutal.
 
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