Non-Muslim Kills 12 At Navy Yard in DC, Nobody Seems To Notice

How sad that the OP didnt read the statements the perp made before he did all this.
Especially as to his motives.

To pretend the crime is Islam free, is a lie
I haven't seen a thing so far about motivation, much less that it is in any way related to Muslims.

Do tell.
 
Actually, everyone noticed. It's been all over the news all day. Just no one made a thread about it here for a while.

The real question here being why a civilian can just walk past the security of a military installation carrying a shotgun.
 
The NRA has proposed a plan to arm the Navy to prevent this from happening again.
 
Well hell, there have been worst weekend in Chicago. So yea, if you going to say "nobody seems to notice." Well I'm going to ask that every weekend. And just to give it the same twist as you did, leftwing hardcore gun control city has had more killings in a weekend then this. Why does no one notice.
 
What a great tragedy it is?

That, however, is not what you said which makes it clear that is not why you started this thread. The entirety of your comment in the OP was suggesting that the board has issues against Muslims and that since it wasn't a Muslim that did it, that's why there was no thread. You had no interest in the tragedy itself, just the anti-Muslim implications in your mind. Given that, why should anyone else have taken the thread seriously?
Do you think there would be a thread by now if he had been a Muslim?

Do you think this was an act of terrorism?
 
Politically active blacks are of the utmost value to today's political elite. People today hold diversity as sacred. Having a black endorse their ideology is like receiving divine sanction, for blacks are sacred cows to just about any political group, even conservative ones.

If this guy isn't being talked about, it is probably because he does not provide quality political ammunition for either side. Liberals cannot use him because he is diverse (and liberals are especially reverent of diversity). Conservatives cannot use him because he would damage their gun ownership platform. So no one can use him to promote their pointless and idiotic agendas.
 
Well hell, there have been worst weekend in Chicago The Middle East. So yea, if you going to say "nobody seems to notice." Well I'm going to ask that every weekend. And just to give it the same twist as you did, leftwing Libertarian hardcore gun Selfcontrol city The Middle East has had more killings in a weekend then this. Why does no one notice.

Fixed for you.

How about this.
US Gun Lobby NOT pass a law preventing the US government from studying gun violence, gun violence causes and collecting detail statistics on guns. Then both sides can look at the data and decide on what to do.
 
Well hell, there have been worst weekend in Chicago. So yea, if you going to say "nobody seems to notice." Well I'm going to ask that every weekend. And just to give it the same twist as you did, leftwing hardcore gun control city has had more killings in a weekend then this. Why does no one notice.
Chicago is one of the few places where the Supreme Court is serving as the legislature on gun control.
 
Fixed for you.

How about this.
US Gun Lobby NOT pass a law preventing the US government from studying gun violence, gun violence causes and collecting detail statistics on guns. Then both sides can look at the data and decide on what to do.

I live in Chicago, and having people shot out side my house makes it a little personal. So sorry if I sound biased.
 
Given that the Supreme Court has not legislated that it is a right to possess a gun outside your house in Chicago, you should take up this law breaking with them.
 
Actually, everyone noticed. It's been all over the news all day. Just no one made a thread about it here for a while.
"Actually", I just explained that I am solely referring to those in this forum. That the media is all over this story.

The real question here being why a civilian can just walk past the security of a military installation carrying a shotgun.
What source do you offer that he was carrying a shotgun when he entered the facility?


The entirety of your comment in the OP was suggesting that the board has issues against Muslims and that since it wasn't a Muslim that did it, that's why there was no thread.
In other words, you are just going to concoct absurd nonsense about my opinions? I hardly think "the board has issues" in this regard, but some certainly do. Hasan and the Fort Hood incident were discussed at length, yet the same number of people were killed in this tragedy as well.

Again, what makes this particular incident any different?

I reside 20 minutes away from the shooting site, and I barely noticed this event; I would've missed it completely, had I not checked the BBC and saw an email from campus police.
Then I take it you don't read a newspaper, watch the news, or even check some internet news sites?
 
I live in Chicago, and having people shot out side my house makes it a little personal. So sorry if I sound biased.

Given that certain Republicans are quite happy to point out that Iraq is much safer then America and that the US should continue to provide more and more arms to the middle east. Perhaps its time to stop making stupid arguments and political shows. Have a real discussion on violent crime ?

The truths behind the myth of Chicago’s violence

This is a favorite theme on the right. Chicago is the murder capital of the nation, and also its gun control capital. I will disprove that first contention in a moment, but first let’s take the implied argument at face value: Gun control laws permit more murders to happen.

Correlation does not imply causation, but for a moment let’s enter the wingnut world where it does. In 2012, there were 507 homicides in Chicago. Ten years earlier, the statistic was 656. Ten years before that, it was 943. Holy cow! Chicago’s anti-gun laws must be working!

Not so fast. The murder rate has declined sharply across the country in the last 20 years. Chicago might still be at the top of the heap for murders. Indeed, 507 is a big number, the biggest of any city in the U.S. in 2012. But Chicago is a big place. The key is to take the number of murders, multiply by 100,000 and then divide by the population. That gives you the standard expression of the homicide rate: murders per 100,000.

How does Chicago stack up? Turns out it’s a dangerous place, but not even in the top 20 most deadly cities. Chicago Tribune columnist Eric Zorn crunched preliminary FBI data on homicides, noting Chicago was safer than, among others places, Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Little Rock, Kansas City, Montgomery, Memphis and Richmond.

However, what citywide statistics don’t show is that over the last 20 years a great divide has opened up between Chicago neighborhoods in terms of safety, even as murders have dropped by half. Daniel Hertz, a masters student at the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago, used Chicago Police data to show that some marginal neighborhoods made stunning progress. Sadly, some neighborhoods, particularly on the South and West Sides, are more violent than they were in the 1990s.

Another way to put it is that violent crime, like income and wealth, is unevenly distributed in Chicago.

Do you really want to solve the violent crime problem? Start by recognizing that guns travel. They go unimpeded from jurisdictions where they are easily gotten to places where they are not. Violence stays put.

Easy access to guns is just the icing. It’s the explosive fuse atop a long stack of community woes. There’s a 20th-century problem we haven’t solved: the inequality between races, between city and suburb, between ghetto and the leafier urban districts that Americans are falling in love with again. Every shooting in Chicago should remind us that we have failed.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/09/02/4448458/the-truths-behind-the-myth-of.html#storylink=cpy
 
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