None Shall Pass 3 [Game Thread]

[Visorslash]

So, SW town, it's up to you now. Like Pizza said in the first NSP, do you want an easy victory with SW scum, or do you want to play the harder game?

Pizza was SW Cult that game. I was LOTR town (not really but shush).

I was one of the arguers against the easy victory with SW scum - but they were a FULL cult so all of the living SW town could technically become SW cult and win the game. This is a limited as said in the OP - so we don't have this to worry about.

 

[Visorslash]

Visor, you and I both know that LOTR can only be recruited by SW mafia under special circumstances, and if I recall correctly it was a one off deal.

At this point the maybe 3 LOTR left aren't as much of a threat as the at least 3 SW mafia.

 

[Visorslash]

Operation ISILDUR has been in the plans for some time.

With the destruction of Witch King, there is none that can stand in our way.

 

[Visorslash]

Visor, you and I both know that LOTR can only be recruited by SW mafia under special circumstances, and if I recall correctly it was a one off deal.

At this point the maybe 3 LOTR left aren't as much of a threat as the at least 3 SW mafia.

This is either PIS from your part or not exactly useful I think.

The game has changed somewhat from the first game (which is what you're referencing I think).

 

[Visorslash]

And if it IS a one-off deal like you suggest - then even better to eliminate them now. Eliminate the unknowns, eliminate the threats to our security.

Destroy our enemies, and break their spirit.

 

[Sprig]

At the same time weakening SW town. I like it.

 

[dcmort93]

This is either PIS from your part or not exactly useful I think.

The game has changed somewhat from the first game (which is what you're referencing I think).

This is exactly what I'm referring to. The game has changed, yes. But who is to say it's changed that much.

And if you think it's PIS why would I advocate the targeting of my own faction. It only risks my scum buddies being targeted. I could waste plenty of time advocating for the killing of LOTR

 

[Arakhor]

This is exactly what I'm referring to. The game has changed, yes. But who is to say it's changed that much.

Then either you don't know what you're talking about or you're blatantly exhibiting PIS. Neither is a good idea.

 

[Xym]

Wh-... Okay, I'm confused.

 

[Visorslash]

Wh-... Okay, I'm confused.

We (SW) are lynching LOTR.

 

[Legato Endless]

Wh-... Okay, I'm confused.

The Middle Earth natives are being killed to widen the faction advantage.

 

[Legato Endless]

In any event, ugh. I've been ill for the past week, so apologies for the absence. I'll make some inane rambling in a bit about something that resembles an informed opinion.

 

[Sprig]

The Middle Earth natives are being killed to widen the faction advantage.

Not Quite. While i completely agree with what visor is doing, he is not doing it for any of the reasons he has spouted.


It is solely based on Visor enlarging his chances of winning.

If we focus on Lotr then SW mafia have more time to convert SW town.

 

[Sprig]

Which I should point out is win/win for and SW mafia and any potential converts.

 

[Kennigit]

there's no "focus" on LOTR

it's like, if you clear out a spider den swarming with spiders and then the next day you see like 1 or 2 little spider bros hanging around

They aren't really a threat, just let them be, and get the newspaper a little later if they make a fuss

 

[Kennigit]

<something something> let's not worry about hunting down the last little womprats <something something> we got bigger gungans to fry [they actually taste OK]

 

[spaceman98]

By that logic, Spaceman, since I blocked you last night, you are also a Star Wars Mafia convert.

There is just one problem with this Luke, just one: I was not blocked tonight. My action suceeded, according to Zack. Lohrenswald can confirm this, since they were my target.

How have I been shady?

Arakhor claimed to me in private so I wanted to have him tested.

Oh and yes I know exactly who Al Sips is.

My reasoning for voting LOTR at this stage is threefold

One: The initial reaction of everyone in this game is now start lynching SW players yes? This allows the SW Mafia to (potentially depending on the setup) get away with converting LOTR players as we go on a wild goose chase of the SW faction and LOTR catches up to us in numbers. All night actions will be used on SW players allowing any potential converts to just slip under the radar.

Two: If we eliminate LOTR town we cannot lose in some showdown thing.

Three: I get to pretend to be evil.

The fact remains is I am the person who brought up the roleblockers - I am a terrible conversion, how does Visor of all people win the game if converted?

re shady: You said you were trying to account for Arakhor tonight, but you never told me how, and now you've clearly NOT accounted for him

1: There's like 3 LOTRs left, max. It would take a VERY long game indeed for them to be a threat, especially since we still have our vig.

2: We have the ring. We have the numerical advantage. There's no way we lose the showdown.

3: Don't worry: once the traitors in our ranks are elliminated we will exterminate the primitive natives once and for all, and establish this planet as our new home. But first, we must eliminate those who can actually kill us: the SW mafia

4: Because you are not a roleblocker?

 

[spaceman98]

Visor, you and I both know that LOTR can only be recruited by SW mafia under special circumstances, and if I recall correctly it was a one off deal.

At this point the maybe 3 LOTR left aren't as much of a threat as the at least 3 SW mafia.

Why are you assuming 3 SW mafia left? That would be a lot given what we know about LOTR mafia.

I mean, if we leave them alone, there will be three pretty soon because they convert (and history suggests they mostly convert us), but why 3 now?

 

[spaceman98]

Wh-... Okay, I'm confused.

Arakhor and Visor are SW mafia. Arakhor is Luke, Visor was converted N4. It all adds up. Lynch them. Kill the remaining ~3 LOTR, SW town wins. This isn't hard guys

 

[Visorslash]

Arakhor and Visor are SW mafia. Arakhor is Luke, Visor was converted N4. It all adds up. Lynch them. Kill the remaining ~3 LOTR, SW town wins. This isn't hard guys

I honestly don't understand how you are possibly coming up with this nonsense.

Explain how any of my play makes sense from a mafia perspective please?