Narz
keeping it real
Apparently what?
Who is this guy in your head? You have a prototype? A blog post by this fellow?
Ow, my balls!
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Who is this guy in your head? You have a prototype? A blog post by this fellow?
Lexicus
Deity
Youtube ad, eh? You sure it wasn't another tube?
Lexicus
Deity
An African Planet? Part II - American Renaissance
Africa could collapse into Malthusian catastrophe.
www.amren.com
(again please don't click the link to this horrid Nazi website, but you act like these people don't exist and it's irksome; the last time I provided a similar link as an answer to a similar rhetorical question you asked, you just ignored it)
I'm not the one reframing other folks' arguments as conspiracies while simultaneously <alluding> to <things> that are <bad> without being explicit.
Bonus points for complaining that others aren't debating the subject. You calling them conspiracies, or attempting to label them as "value judgements" might have something to do with that
What do you want, exactly? An echo chamber?
danjuno
Cole Phelps, Badge 1247
Thread Title of the Year. 
aelf
Ashen One
Just get guys to clean their bedrooms. The sperm count will skyrocket, or something.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
others will not agree with my perspective here:
i drew a line between being a racist and acting within racist structures, even doing racist actions. some people think it's the same, but i don't think it's useful to discuss personal essence like this, unless we're talking like, confederates or whatever.
amadeus brought up motivation for action, so i was clarifying that one can promote actively hurtful things while keeping an abstract sense of morality. which i think is important here since from what i can tell, you feel kind of defensive about this, maybe a bit called out.
the distinction is between people, their actions, and structures of power. all inform each other, naturally, but that's not the point. you can be part of a racist power structure and promote its thinking. your actions can be incidentally racist. you may unwittingly participate in all of this and think in accordance to the structures but not do it out of malice.
if you, you now, cumulatively believe in more procreation for some and less procreation for others, and you don't realize the structural problem with this, this is your ticket out. this means your motivations can stay good. sure, you're not a racist. you can sleep well.
my actual qualms are more... whether an individual is a racist or not doesn't really matter. i tend to make this distinction between the abstract and the concrete. the more important question is how people and systems affect the world concretely. i think it's bad, structurally, that people worry about too little sperm in europe, while worrying about too much sperm in africa.
so let's say someone doesn't like the idea of african overpopulation. i would then point out that it's reinforcing some pretty awful power structures over human rights to parenthood, for example. i would further note that this enforcement goes mostly against a demographic both historically oppressed by whites and mostly black, and also reinforcing structural population controls that also have a history behind it. they would be participating in a structure that's bad.
someone would then say, but they're not a racist. they have their own reasons for doing this. good reasons, even. i mean, okay then. i believe them. but it removes nothing from the concrete reality, that something would hurt a lot of black people.
personal abstract absolution from racism is possible in my eyes. but it's a question of identity and categoricalism, and i don't really find it that relevant in the concrete.
so, again. no; i'm not calling anyone a racist. i'm calling the structures racist, and plead for people to reflect on their participation in them.
what do you want to discuss? i'm not trying to be snide, i'm trying to figure out what exactly you wanted with the op, if you feel discussion about population growth is outside the scope of balls.
i didn't even want to talk malthus, really. i looked at the thread and didn't really find anything particularly interesting to talk about. it's sad for parents, sure. it's not bad for economies, as there's plenty of people willing to come and work. at a greater scope, the solutions to these issues (environmental) are entwined with the nature of the international poor, including their population growth. but maybe that's out of scope of what you wanted to talk about? - anyways, then there were amadeus' post that i felt i could add substance to. and then you were a bit upset about that, i think, and i responded.
regardless, like, i want to add to danjuno's quip here. the thread title is lowkey glorious, i love it.
Lexicus
Deity
Only if they do it because Jordan Peterson told them to. If they do it because their mom told them to, sperm counts will plummet
aelf
Ashen One
Do they get to call him daddy?
bernie14
Filter Manipulator
That history is cyclical.......
....is the misinformation campaign.
Marx and his frankfurters
It is quite distressing that something in our environment is acting upon sensitive parts of our biology in ways that we can easily measure. This would mean that countless other hard-to-measure things are being affected.
There will also be correlations with things we can measure that are undeniably good. Under-five mortality plummets, but sperm counts plummets too. Probably from inputs that are tied to each other.
You're right about corporate boards, I think. Every bureaucrat will have a variety of incentives to suppress information or ignore it, and they will be in every organization that has privileged information. There could easily be some input that can be trimmed without damaging the good things it's associated with. Do people have insight into what legal processes would be available to speed up the release of these data?
Senethro
Overlord
Thanks, but could you please not quote me if you're just talking to yourself. I'd rather not be pinged for a non-reply.
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Like climate change, sperm counts are now dropping even faster than previously predicted w no end in sight.
I don't care how much of a problem it causes with global sperm count, I'm not going to stop HRT or my planning for surgery.
I think this is a small part of of something that could be a big issue in the future. Loads of chemicals in today's world have hormonal effects, with chemicals that stimulate the estrogen receptor particularly common for some reason. The effects of an increased low level estrogen stimulation is far from clear but among many things in men it would be expected reduce sperm counts. In women it would be expected to increase breast and reproductive system cancers.
In October this paper came out linking thalates in hair straighteners to uterine cancer, which was quickly followed up with a class action law suit.
The main thing I avoid to reduce my exposure is plastic food containers, particularly if they are heated and/or reused. This random paper talks about the frequency of detectable levels.
In October this paper came out linking thalates in hair straighteners to uterine cancer, which was quickly followed up with a class action law suit.
The main thing I avoid to reduce my exposure is plastic food containers, particularly if they are heated and/or reused. This random paper talks about the frequency of detectable levels.
Spoiler How much estrogenic activity in plastic :
Narz
keeping it real
I ignore it cause you found some guy who has x-belief and also y-belief and form an axis and your point is?An African Planet? Part II - American Renaissance
Africa could collapse into Malthusian catastrophe.
(again please don't click the link to this horrid Nazi website, but you act like these people don't exist and it's irksome; the last time I provided a similar link as an answer to a similar rhetorical question you asked, you just ignored it)
Conversation, see stuff like El Mac posts vs aelf
Biological, political solutions to chemical companies destroying our organs maybe? I dunno. Something besides weird tangents
How would your hrt/surgery be affected by this??
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Lexicus
Deity
My point is that the existence of these people would seem to directly refute your skepticism that they exist
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So you want people more willing to meet your ideas regardless of how much merit they find in them?
Man, I wish that worked both ways
The forum has a social dynamic based on years of interactions. Some are good, and some are less good. My honest advice to you is if you want more people sympathetic to your conversation starters regardless of how funny, flawed, or silly they might be found, is to do the same to others. Because at least in my experience you categorically don't, and I personally always dismissed as dreaming or not being realistic. I can't speak for others, but I have my stereotypes as much as you have yours.
So you seem when it comes to a thread of "ow, my balls" that isn't even about you personally and seems to revolve around building a personality solely out of the existence of virility, I snort a bit. Particularly when you go and demonstrate zero willingness to converse even when others try. All because you think they're not. Reads like a problem you're causing, to me.
bernie14
Filter Manipulator
Why would i quote anyone if i was talking to myself?
Senethro
Overlord
Because it kinda looked you quoted 3 people to say something not addressed to us and to reference the conspiracy theory relating to the frankfurt school. Just why?
bernie14
Filter Manipulator
Because it fits
EDIT. and i would appreciate a quote, lest i miss someone commenting on one of my posts
EDIT. and i would appreciate a quote, lest i miss someone commenting on one of my posts
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