poll: what Christian denomination are you?

[El_Machinae]

Well, you can see why. Millions of people attend the meetings, and people get raised from the dead after dying and being injected with embalming fluid.

 

[Huayna Capac357]

My parents are Episcopalian, I stopped being Episcopal at about age 13-ish, stopped being Christian at age 14, and stopped being religious shortly thereafter. Nowadays, I'm agnostic.

 

[civ_king]

Catholic of the Latin Rite

Screw condoms, screw birth control, screw the slaughter of the unborn, screw vernacular masses, screw bread and wine, screw revisionism, screw heretics

party like it's 1399, now if you'll excuse me I have some infidels to smite.

 

[Ajidica]

You just gave me the best reason to quote Carmina Burana.

They toast to the Bishop and his three sons!
Seventh to the vain sisters as years take their toll!
Eight to the brothers who don't have a care!

 

[Huayna Capac357]

lol.

EDIT: X-post, but it still works, so whatever.

Anyways, @Randomnerd: what was appealing about Orthodoxy? I'm not insulting it, I just don't know much about it.

 

[Smellincoffee]

I wouldn't bet on that. Pentecostals and Charismatics are growing at a respectable clip. Most Protestant denominations are just growing. That's the Australian situation at least. And world-wide Pentecostals and Charismatics are the fastest growing major Christian demonination...

My parents' organization (the UPCI) is obsessed with "foreign missions". People buy into the emotionalistic crap and dreams of power (casting out demons, healing, etc). Pentemania has caused witch-burnings in Africa..

 

[civ_king]

You just gave me the best reason to quote Carmina Burana.

Where are you getting these translations? I google the first line with quotes and the only hit is this page

 

[Ajidica]

Where are you getting these translations? I google the first line with quotes and the only hit is this page

You likely wouldn't find the quotes online because
a) I'm mangling the line a bit so I didn't have to quote as much.
b) the translation I'm using isn't a direct translation and was published with the Telarc recording of the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra that used a new translation that isn't literal from the latin. It was translated like that to preserve a rhyming scheme. I haven't found it anywhere online.

 

[civ_king]

You likely wouldn't find the quotes online because
a) I'm mangling the line a bit so I didn't have to quote as much.
b) the translation I'm using isn't a direct translation and was published with the Telarc recording of the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra that used a new translation that isn't literal from the latin. It was translated like that to preserve a rhyming scheme. I haven't found it anywhere online.

That is the most mangled translation I've ever seen and is nothing like the actual thing
see spoiler

Spoiler :

When we are in the tavern, we do not care about what earth is (i.e. what we are made of), we set about gambling and over that we always sweat. We must investigate what happens in the tavern where money is the butler; pay attention to what I say.

Some gamble, some drink, some live without discretion. From those who spend their time in gambling, some are stripped bare, some win clothes, some are dressed in sacks; there no-one fears death, but for the wine they throw dice.

First, for the payment of the wine (i.e. who pays for the wine). Then the boozers start to drink; they drink once to those in prison, after that, three times for the living, four times for all Christendom, five times for the faithful departed, six times for sisters of loose virtue, seven times for soldiers of the forest, eight times for brothers in error, nine times for scattered monks, ten times for those who sail, eleven times for men quarrelling, twelve times for those doing penance, thirteen times for those on journeys.

For pope and king alike all drink without restraint.

The mistress drinks, so does the master, the soldier drinks, so does the cleric, that man drinks, that woman drinks, the servant drinks with the maid, the fast man drinks, so does the slow, the white man drinks, so does the black, the stay-at-home drinks, so does the wanderer, the fool drinks, so does the scholar.

The poor drink, and the sick, the exile and the unknown, the boy, the greybeard, the bishop, the deacon, sister, brother, old woman, mother, that woman, this man, they drink by the hundred, by the thousand.

Large sums of money last too short a time when everybody drinks without moderation and limit, even though they drink with a happy heart; in this everyone sponges on us and it will make us poor.

Damnation to those who sponge on us! Put not their names in the book of Just.

 

[Perfection]

Screw condoms, screw birth control, screw the slaughter of the unborn, screw vernacular masses, screw bread and wine, screw revisionism, screw heretics

Sorry, Catholics aren't allowed to screw.

 

[Ajidica]

@Civ_King: Is there a reason you are getting worked up about this? I got a chance to post some lyrics from Carmina Burana that were topical. Or are you arguing that priests in the middle ages didn't have kids?

 

[holy king]

i was baptised by a catholic priest, does that still make me one for the pope or not?

 

[civ_king]

Sorry, Catholics aren't allowed to screw.

unless it is your wife

@Civ_King: Is there a reason you are getting worked up about this? I got a chance to post some lyrics from Carmina Burana that were topical. Or are you arguing that priests in the middle ages didn't have kids?

I'm not getting worked up, I'm actually kind of sleepy right now. The lyrics weren't topical because they weren't actually lyrics, it is like a Hollywood based on a true story stuff.

I think secular clergy had different rules so they might have, but generally they didn't during the Middle Ages, (the troubles were in the Renaissance). Notice how a drinking song is in Latin (*cough cough* people understood Latin *cough cough*).

 

[_random_]

Anyways, @Randomnerd: what was appealing about Orthodoxy? I'm not insulting it, I just don't know much about it.

A need for some level of historical continuity with the Church of the apostles and a less legalistic theology that didn't involve things like penal substitution to name a couple of things.

 

[Leifmk]

I think secular clergy had different rules so they might have, but generally they didn't during the Middle Ages, (the troubles were in the Renaissance).

The Middle Ages were a long span of time and many things were true in some places during some of that time. For instance, early on there were a lot of clergy, especially in less central areas, who may not exactly have been celibate even though they were theoretically supposed to be.

 

[DroopyTofu]

I've attended an Independent Christian church, a Nazarene church, a Methodist church and a Presbyterian church. I like the Presbyterian church the most and I think I tend to agree with their theology the most.

 

[GhostWriter16]

A need for some level of historical continuity with the Church of the apostles and a less legalistic theology that didn't involve things like penal substitution to name a couple of things.

What is less legalistic about Orthodoxy?

And how can you possibly deny penal substitution Biblically? (Unless you mean something else by Penal Substitution than what I think it means.)

 

[civ_king]

A need for some level of historical continuity with the Church of the apostles and a less legalistic theology that didn't involve things like penal substitution to name a couple of things.

Would you like help with burn the heretics

 

[GhostWriter16]

Would you like help with burn the heretics

Who are you calling heretics, those who accept penal substitution, or those who do not? And some reasoning if you're willing to take the time, regardless of your view. I'm genuinely confused...

@Droopy- Presbyterians? I'm genuinely surprised? Would you consider yourself to be Calvinist?

 

[civ_king]

Who are you calling heretics, those who accept penal substitution, or those who do not? And some reasoning if you're willing to take the time, regardless of your view. I'm genuinely confused...

@Droopy- Presbyterians? I'm genuinely surprised? Would you consider yourself to be Calvinist?

Penal substitution dictates that Christ is in Hell, do you think Christ is in Hell?

Satisfaction theory of atonement vs. Penal substitution