Postmortem on Mueller

[Old Hippy]

I don't see any mention of a flash drive being used. Once the computer is compromised, the hacking tools can download additional software for uploads and downloads.

the flash drive 'theory ' has to do with the fact all the DNC emails released from wikileaks were downloaded at the same time and the meta data shows timestamps and a download speed that could not be reproduced from 4-5 European counties.. where tests were carried out... as for one being used and you not hearing about it, I refer you to your own post... directly above this one

brennan said: ↑
Having gained access, malware was uploaded (presumably from something simple like a flash drive) to enable an encrypted outside connection. Encrypted as in secure, even from the NSA.

I was not replying to you but brennan's take on things... and commenting on a simpler now widespread alternate theory that the emails were leaked by an insider(probably a Bernie bro) and given to wikileaks

 

[Birdjaguar]

the flash drive 'theory ' has to do with the fact all the DNC emails released from wikileaks were downloaded at the same time and the meta data shows timestamps and a download speed that could not be reproduced from 4-5 European counties.. where tests were carried out... as for one being used and you not hearing about it, I refer you to your own post... directly above this one

brennan said: ↑
Having gained access, malware was uploaded (presumably from something simple like a flash drive) to enable an encrypted outside connection. Encrypted as in secure, even from the NSA.

I was not replying to you but brennan's take on things... and commenting on a simpler now widespread alternate theory that the emails were leaked and given to wikileaks

I realized you were replying to Brennan.

 

[Old Hippy]

I realized you were replying to Brennan.

so you had heard about the flash drive...

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I always love it when someone starts talking about a "widespread theory." It illuminates just how many dingbats there are on the right.

 

[Old Hippy]

I always love it when someone starts talking about a "widespread theory." It illuminates just how many dingbats there are on the right.

probably about the same number as on the left... that's my theory... after waiting for Mueller to pull the magical white rabbit out of the rabbit hole he went down

 

[Timsup2nothin]

probably about the same number as on the left... that's my theory... after waiting for Mueller to pull the magical white rabbit out of the rabbit hole he went down

He who laughs last didn't get the post.

 

[brennan]

I don't see any mention of a flash drive being used. Once the computer is compromised, the hacking tools can download additional software for uploads and downloads.

Again. The network was accessed directly using stolen credentials, according to the report. Thus someone had physical access to a computer on the network (it seems like a group of people managed to obtain several logins in fact including IT administrators with full network access) and then downloaded malware. I merely speculate that his was done via flash drive since the account of the malware being uploaded precedes any suggestion in the report that a connection beyond the DCCC and DNC networks occurred and the report specifically states that it was the malware that enabled the encrypted external connection.

XTunnel was a hacking tool that created an encrypted connection between the victim DCCC/DNC computers and GRU-controlled computers outside the DCCC and DNC networks that was capable of large-scale data transfers. 125 GRU officers then used X-Tunnel to exfiltrate stolen data from the victim computers.

 

[Kyriakos]

I don't see any mention of a flash drive being used. Once the computer is compromised, the hacking tools can download additional software for uploads and downloads.

This one is about Assange. Maybe the core issue is the illegality of what was revealed, not so much how it was revealed.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

The Mueller report is basically "her emails" for the liberals. Nothing was ever going to come out of it and nothing ever will. But the libs will stage musicals, have support groups over the report disappointment, publish books, and do other silly things instead of any meaningful political action.

American liberals are only good for hashtag activism on Twitter and nothing else, sadly.

 

[innonimatu]

Having gained access, malware was uploaded (presumably from something simple like a flash drive) to enable an encrypted outside connection. Encrypted as in secure, even from the NSA.

Implantation of Ma/ware on DCCC and DNC Networks
Unit 26165 implanted on the DCCC and DNC networks two types of customized
malware, 123 known as "X-Agent" and "X-Tunnel "; Mimikatz, a credential-harvesting tool ; and
rar.exe , a tool used in these intrusions to compile and compress materials for exfiltration. X-Agent
was a multi -function hacking tool that allowed Unit 26165 to log keystrokes , take screenshots, and
gather other data about the infected computers (e.g., file directories , operating systems). 124 XTunnel
was a hacking tool that created an encrypted connection between the victim DCCC/DNC
computers and GRU-controlled computers outside the DCCC and DNC networks that was capable
of large -scale data transfers. 125 GRU officers then used X-Tunnel to exfiltrate stolen data from the
victim computers.

What was the source, and where is the evidence stored, that can back these these claims? That is the issue with the report.

 

[El_Machinae]

occam's razor... if you have something simple like a flash drive plugged in, why not just down load the info... like the retired NSA experts are saying the meta data on the released and now public files show... timestamps and transfer rates etc,... the greatest risk involved is plugging in that drive...not some anonymous hacker on the other side of the world... just saying they are saying as you are saying... a flash drive was used

A better Occam's razor is that you don't know what you're talking about. Malware is inserted so that the attacker has time to look around to find whatever information is stolen. A flash drive would require knowing where the files are before starting the exfiltration.

I understand that you're trying to be skeptical. But you crossed the line into unreasonable. You would have been able to think of this answer had it been about a different case, and not the DNC.

 

[Farm Boy]

American liberals are only good for hashtag activism on Twitter and nothing else, sadly.

Eh, they're better than that, but the realignment has been unkind on them. Trending towards libertinism philosophically is not strength. The little militiamen at least have some chops even if their eyesight is poor. They might make themselves into something useful when they get over the hormonal shock of their balls dropping.

 

[Lexicus]

A better Occam's razor is that you don't know what you're talking about.

Quoted for truth, also because this line is widely applicable and I expect to deploy it in future

 

[Estebonrober]

https://www.axios.com/barr-opposes-...ing-056c5f4c-4525-4ea2-84a1-d347e23d3dc9.html

Attorney General Bill Barr opposes a finding in the Department of Justice inspector general's Russia probe report that the FBI had enough information in 2016 to begin investigating Trump campaign members, the Washington Post reported Monday.

Why it matters: DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz is due to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Dec. 11 on his highly anticipated report on alleged abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) during the Russia investigation.

• Per Axios' Zachary Basu, the report by Horowitz, whose work is independent of DOJ leadership, is expected to explore issues such as "whether the FBI's court-ordered surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page was properly handled."
• "Trump allies hope that Horowitz's report, as well as a separate investigation into intelligence collecting led by prosecutor John Durham, will undermine the findings of the Russia investigation," Basu notes.

What they're saying: Barr disagrees with the key finding by Horowitz that the FBI "had sufficient basis to open an investigation on July 31, 2016," people familiar with the matter told WashPost.

• The attorney general "argues that other U.S. agencies, such as the CIA, may hold significant information that could alter Horowitz’s conclusion on that point," WashPost reports, citing its sources.
• DOJ spokesperson Kerri Kupec tweeted a statement praising Horowitz after WashPost published the report.

Might be a good time to point out this was never about truth for the GOP.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

It never usually is, for neo fascists, which is what the gop are now; their metamorphosis has finished.

 

[Gori the Grey]

https://www.axios.com/barr-opposes-...ing-056c5f4c-4525-4ea2-84a1-d347e23d3dc9.html

Attorney General Bill Barr opposes a finding in the Department of Justice inspector general's Russia probe report that the FBI had enough information in 2016 to begin investigating Trump campaign members, the Washington Post reported Monday.

Why it matters: DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz is due to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Dec. 11 on his highly anticipated report on alleged abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) during the Russia investigation.

• Per Axios' Zachary Basu, the report by Horowitz, whose work is independent of DOJ leadership, is expected to explore issues such as "whether the FBI's court-ordered surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page was properly handled."
• "Trump allies hope that Horowitz's report, as well as a separate investigation into intelligence collecting led by prosecutor John Durham, will undermine the findings of the Russia investigation," Basu notes.

What they're saying: Barr disagrees with the key finding by Horowitz that the FBI "had sufficient basis to open an investigation on July 31, 2016," people familiar with the matter told WashPost.

• The attorney general "argues that other U.S. agencies, such as the CIA, may hold significant information that could alter Horowitz’s conclusion on that point," WashPost reports, citing its sources.
• DOJ spokesperson Kerri Kupec tweeted a statement praising Horowitz after WashPost published the report.

Might be a good time to point out this was never about truth for the GOP.

This is hilarious because when Barr initiated this investigation, we were told (including by members of this very site) that it would prove the "deep state" had tried to sabotage Trump's campaign. Now that the report doesn't show that, Barr is just going to ignore/contest the IG's findings.

 

[rah]

Ignoring reality is a common failing these days.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Ignoring reality is a common failing these days.

It's akin to an illness... a sickness.

 

[Broken_Erika]

He'll just say it's proof of the deep state subversion.

 

[rah]

Especially since no one really knows what the heck deep state even means anymore.