Question Evolution! 15 questions evolutionists cannot adequately answer

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Because no evidence exists to suggest Noahs Ark actualy occured (and all the evidence suggests the Jews just inserted the flood in the Epic of Gilgamesh without bothering to even change place names) and that were we to accept YEC as true, it would mean that our entire understanding of electromagnetics is completely wrong (in addition to just about every other area of science as YECism also violates the Law of the Conservation of Energy).

how does it violate any laws?

 

[emzie]

how does it violate any laws?

Sciency things you have to ignore to accept YEC

 

[GoodSarmatian]

There are hundreds of thousands -if not millions- of Ph.D's and biologists on this planet.
They don't appear on these kinds of list because no one bothers to list them. Why ? Because acceptance of the Theory of Evolution is not something people point out about themselves, it's a given.

 

[Leoreth]

When was creation finished?

In seven days. Suggesting anything else would destroy the holiness of Sabbath

 

[kramerfan86]

I can respect intelligent design, theistic evolutionists, MAYBE even old world creationists. Young Earth Creationism is just laughable though. YEC requires that God is a deceptive trickster who deliberately designed everything to confuse people and most known scientific laws are in fact just the direct result of God trying to trick everyone.

 

[Ajidica]

You know how we were talking about the evolution of birds/dinosaurs and feathers? The BBC just had an article on that:

"We're finding two ends of the evolutionary development that had been proposed for feathers trapped in the same amber deposit," said Ryan McKellar of the University of Alberta, lead author of the report.


The team's find confirms that the filaments progressed to tufts of filaments from a single origin, called barbs. In later development, some of these barbs can coalesce into a central branch called a rachis. As the structure develops further, further branches of filments form from the rachis.

"We've got feathers that look to be little filamentous hair-like feathers, we've got the same filaments bound together in clumps, and then we've got a series that are for all intents and purposes identical to modern feathers," Mr McKellar told BBC News

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14933298
Included in the article is a link to the full article in Science.

 

[sanabas]

sanabas
Sabbath is a 3000-year-old reminder of the events of the first week.

Which avoids the question, again. If, hypothetically, creation week didn't happen, do those 3000 years of ritual lose all meaning? Or can you, personally, still take meaning from the fact that your weekly ritual is the same one practiced by millions of people for the last couple of thousand years. It's a simple question, why keep avoiding it?

There is simply no philosophically sound way of holding simultaneously in one’s head both the conviction that we are mere evolved animals and the conviction that we are something qualitatively different. And no way to avoid the fact that when schoolchildren are taught biology, if they are taught to embrace the one, they are being taught to shun the other."

Yep, sounds reasonable. If someone has the conviction that we're outside the animal kingdom entirely, then they're wrong. If someone wants to think we're god's specially chosen animal, that we're the pinnacle of the animal kingdom rather than separate from it, then they're wrong too, but they're wrong in a way that isn't contradicted simply by the idea that humans are animals too. Why would you take scientific instruction from someone who is so obviously wrong about the basics?

I myself mentioned bacteria in post #516.
And also said it's a bad example cause you can't know whether they could it beforehand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment is a ready to read link of one of the most impressive, interesting & enlightening experiments I've ever heard of. Yes, it's bacteria, but in this case we DO know whether they could do it beforehand, and the answer is a clear no.

And I also asked about multicellular examples, with persistent mutations that carry over many generations and also are obviously discernible.
Provided we have millions of insect species - why there's no insect with 8 legs or 6 wings (or at least 4 legs, as easy as it could be)???
They "could" have gradually evolved by accumulating random mutations.

As I explained to you when you asked where the 6 legged mammals are, the reason they don't happen is because it's extremely unlikely for those gradual changes to provide a benefit the whole way. Therefore, we don't see them. There are examples of insects that have had one of their pairs of legs develop into something that does another job instead of/in addition to just being legs.

 

[ParkCungHee]

It seems that the Egyptian Mossaic was not a record of history, but what happened during a normal day of hunting. Would interpreting it as something that actually happened on any given day, be more logical than that it was a representation of Egyptian history?

Then that thoroughly refutes the story of Genesis, as it means that whatever wiped out 90% of all the species that ever lived had to happen after the depiction of the Nile Mosaic. Since Genesis would explain this mass extinction through the flood (but neglected to mention it) this would mean that even assuming Dinosaurs lived alongside humans, they did so long after Genesis would indicate.

 

[classical_hero]

Well The Bible doe snot name every creature that has lived on the earth. I don't see any mention of kangaroos or koalas either, thus the bible must not be true. Don't forget that the word dinosaur is a modern term, so the bible would not mention any creature by the name dinosaur, but look at Job 40 and 41 where it describes two creatures that we don't have any record of living nowadays, whereas the previous chapters present animals alive today. We have the leviathan, a sea creature of some sort and we have a large land creature called a behemoth. The behemoth is described as having legs like a cedar, that means they are rather huge, and no modern creature fits that bill, but we have some rather large dinosaurs that can fit the bill. The bible does say that only those who survived were those on the ark and that would include dinosaurs, so dinosaurs being around after the flood is no problem.

 

[PeteAtoms]

The bible does say that only those who survived were those on the ark and that would include dinosaurs, so dinosaurs being around after the flood is no problem.

See, that's a problem IMO. A bunch of farm animals on a big boat, fine. Maybe. But the entire modern world's fauna and all the dinosaurs to boot? It's like you have an obviously inadequate sized boat with X number of passengers it can't hold, and you're trying to squeeze on a bunch of dinosaurs too?

 

[Nick Carpathia]

Holy moley a vague description a large sea animal and a large land animal! Surely this is the sort of non-logic that will demonstrate that Genesis wasn't just a collection of myths and metaphors of a medium-sized tribe in the middle east, and is instead a literal account of a continent-spanning supercivilization.

Next you'll be telling me that the reason why the flood killed everything was because the world is flat and is ringed by a wall of ice and all the water drained down into Sheol.

 

[Whiskey_Lord]

Logical explanation: The Jews didn't know about creatures that had lived ~65 million years prior to them.

 

[Nick Carpathia]

Excuse me no the earth is 20 000 years old and the sun is being pushed through the sky by a giant scarab beetle and if you don't accept what I say you're going to have your guts pulled out by a sickle sword.

 

[kramerfan86]

If dinosaurs existed within the past few thousand years you are telling me NO ancient culture recorded their existence? Not the Chinese, native americans, Egyptians, Indians, Babylonians, etc? No one kept any pelts or bones, no one drew pictures, no one made any record? Oh the jews made one reference to cedar legs, guess they were the only ones who noticed these giants.

 

[Nick Carpathia]

Native Americans are a liberal conspiracy are country was empty when we got here.

 

[Nick Carpathia]

Alternative explanation: Satan hid them using his Satanic powers to test True Christians the same way he did to Galileo's telescope.

(Good job dad)

 

[kramerfan86]

I mean this is why I put no stock in YEC. Just blatant illogical steps. We dont even need to address the fact that somehow Noah's descendents spread across the planet and quickly established radically different cultures. Even manage to get to the americas and make a population in the millions!

 

[Ajidica]

You forgot the people living for 600 years, and where did Cain's wife come from?

 

[Nick Carpathia]

"But grandpa, if Adam, Eve, and Cain were the only people on Earth, then who did Cain have children with"

...

"Shut up boy. Don't ask questions. A deus ex machina did it."

 

[Midgard Eagle]

Do we need a "Question the Flood Myth!" thread ?