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Agares is god of Entropy, and the Order doesn't convert people away from Ashen Veil, they kill everyone who believes in it (evidenced by the Confessor being so eager to try (perhaps to kill) Rosier when he wore the mask of OO).

Order believes in Law, and for them, Law must be followed to the letter, no exception. So for Ecco to convert to Order, the Confessor would have demanded that Ecco pay for his crimes before converting, and for them, the only punishment fitting for serving Agares as a Profane (is that what he was? Because mages at Age of Magic were dedicated to Ceridwan) is by death.

I thought that the voice was actually Sirona, who actually is willing to forgive everyone, if they will it.
 
I thought Agares took over the realm of Death... If he didn't then who controls the Death sphere?

The impression I got was he converted spiritually seconds before death and destroyed the tower, the mana, the mountain, and a good chunk of the countryside. He would have converted to the Order if he survived. He was redeemed when he destroyed the tower.

This took place during the Age of Rebirth, as shown by Agares mentioning Kylorin killing Mulcarn
 
Arawn still lives, so he controlls the sphere of death, although he doesn't allow anyone to use it. The only reason why mages can use death magic is by using one of thegems that the three brothers stole from the planes of eternal elements.

Junio would not have reached out to an Ashen Veil follower, that's my point. In fact, he is worried that Sirona may be on the path to evil for forgiving too many of them.

Don't know about redemption for destroying the tower, my point is that he still wouldn't have been Order, he would have been the Cult of Sirona, she does most of the 'conversion by inner conscience' business
 
It isn't a question of where it grips... oops, sorry, It isn't about whether Junil reached out to him, but that he had a personal, self imposed revelation about the Tower and Agares. He realized that the Order was vastly preferable to what Agares was trying to do and so he converted to the Order in spirit and redeemed himself. He then died a very l33t death. Junil may not have forgiven him but he realized what he did and tried to reverse the damage.

I agree that it would be better for him to have joined Sirona or Empyrean.
 
Don't know about redemption for destroying the tower, my point is that he still wouldn't have been Order, he would have been the Cult of Sirona, she does most of the 'conversion by inner conscience' business
I would see the differences between the three as follows:
Junil: Repent and suffer the consequences that your soul may be saved (although they are probably more concerned with society than the fate of the particular evil-doer)
Lugus: Repent and turn from your wicked ways and start your life anew or be destroyed.
Sirona: We must show them kindness so that they see the error of their ways, while mitigating the danger they cause. Our example may soften their heart of stone.

By the way, I liked the examination of the AV memo. reminds me of the missionary 'pedia entries.
 
Lugus doesn't seem like the "or be destroyed" type. Lugus himself did not destroy Alexis or the other vampires, he just cursed them in such a way as to make their lives of debauchery less pleasant and to constantly remind them of their sins. I tend to think that his followers would only destroy the wicked in self defense (but not hesitate to do so then, unlike the followers of Sirona). When not directly threatened, they would focus on constantly pointing out everyone's sins and the natural consequences of said sins. They would use mostly words, constantly reminding the wicked of what they have lost and can never regain unless they repent, and of how their behavior itself will eventually destroy them. They would annoy people into repentance instead of threatening them. The wicked probably hate the Empyrean for their criticism than the Order for their actions, but they wouldn't see them as a major threat to be feared. I imagine Lugus is sometimes called the God of Nagging.
 
What, like Cassiel?;)
 
Sorry guys, I don't know every detail about Ffh2, Thanks for correcting me and I need to edit the post. I'm not exactly fully up to date on knowing everything about Ffh. I'll try and write some stories that are more "correct" next time.
 
Basically, to sum up the lot, Agares (wrong need to change to god of death) wants Eccos to build a tower to increase the power of the empire (I haven't chosen which). Agares (God of death, not Agares) touches the sphere of pure death mana so that it explodes, killing everyone.Eccos realises what he has done and converts to the voice (Sirona) (I didn't really want to type what religion he converted to, I forgot to delete it in the long line of text, leave u in suspense) and dies because he doesn't want to be used. TXT_KEY_DEATH_GOD is astonished that one of his most loyal followers would convert to "the voice".

Hope this helps. As I told you, I am a bit of a n00b.
 
So the sphere explodes because of Agares or because Eccos converts and sacrifices himself?

One more thing; this couldn't be TXT_KEY_DEATH_GOD's physical form because of the Compact so what is it? A personification? A mind-image? (A hologram?)

Nothing wrong with being a n00b, I'm still one. I don't have the guts to actually post anything I've written. (nice signature)
 
God of Death doesn't give a da!n of about Erebus, in fact, he is the only one that doesn't empower his own followers. His name is Arawn, by the way. Besides, he despises death magic, despite being the god of death. Death magic actually steals away souls from his vault, and Arawn hates it. The only reason mages can utilize death magic is by one of the gems that the Three Brothers stole from the Plains of INfinite Elements.
 
He's the one Laroth is trying to overthrow, right?

Who are these Brothers and how many gem's did they take? I keep on hearing about them but don't know who/what they are...
 
Yes, Laroth is trying to usurp the precept of death from Arawn.

The Three Brothers are 3 mortals who managed to steal 3 gems of creation for Agares, just like Agares had stolen them from The One. The 3 gems stolen were the gems of Water, Air, and Death. The only brother whose name we know is Tuoni the Gatekeeper, the brother who has the Gem of Death embedded in his right hand.

There aren't a whole lot of details known about them. Most of what we know comes from Kael's D&D campaigns and aren't really cannon, but I believe that their existence is canonical. Tuoni was the main bad guy in one of Kael's campaigns. When the players met him, he used the Opalus Mortis (as the gem of death was called) to resurrect every enemy they had ever faced to fight them again. (The Baron Duin Halfmorn was one of the stronger enemies, but both times the team faced him they got extremely lucky rolls and killed him before he could land a single hit.) Tuoni was working with Tebryn Arbandi, who was casting the spells of winter. Tuoni wanted him to complete a ritual hat would kill everyone in the world, so that he could trap all their souls within the Opalus Mortis and use them to create a new world over which he would be a god. Auric Ulvin was supporting the rituals for most of the time, but did not want them completed since he intended to use the magical forces the ritual had gathered in order to ascend to become the God of Ice again. (I believe that in that campaign Auric was the resurrection of Mulcarn literally, not just a mage with the affinity for the sphere. I think that this might have ben the campaign where the land itself was formed from Mulcarn's corpse, and the sea of mists from his blood.) By saving the world, the team played right into Auric's hands and made him a god. The brother who held the Gem of Air was mentioned in that campaign, but they never actually met him. He was an excuse for the team's good allies to be powerless to help them and too busy to talk, as they were busy mounting armies to defeat a warlord who could but wave his hand and create an army of tornadoes to wipe out the armies and cities of men. The brother who held the Gem of Water was never found.


I tend to think that Ceridwen helped the three brothers steal the gems from Agares, against Agares wishes. I can't find it now, but I remember the pedia used to include a conversation between a pre-fall-Bhall (or was it a post resurrection Sucellus? I think it was Bhall and that the 3 brothers lived in the age of magic, but it might have been Sucellus in which case the brothers are around now.) and Agares in which Agares seems genuinely insulted that the good god would suggest he had anything to do with sharing the gems with mortals. Ceridwen has always liked sharing power with mortals, so as to corrupt them. I think that having access to an infinite well of the power of one sphere would cause a mortal to become completely imbalanced, so dominated by that one sphere that his free will is reduced to the level of a god. It would make Tuoni very dour and the brother who holds the gem of air extremely reckless (probably enough to make him die in some stupid accident). The sphere of water however would tend to calm a person and make him comfortable without using the power. That brother likely never used the gem enough to do serious damage to his psyche. Even if he did, the sphere would make him withdraw into himself and associate only with a few close friends instead of going out and harming others.


The brothers have a constellation named after them.
Three Brothers (Two Brothers, The Kings-elven)- The symbol of Courage. Made of three stars, one white, one blue and one black (those that don't see the black star call in Two Brothers). A tale of Heroism and Valor, of three brothers daring to challenge the gods themselves and with their courage alone, succeed.
 
I can't find it now, but I remember the pedia used to include a conversation between a pre-fall-Bhall (or was it a post resurrection Sucellus? I think it was Bhall and that the 3 brothers lived in the age of magic, but it might have been Sucellus in which case the brothers are around now.) and Agares in which Agares seems genuinely insulted that the good god would suggest he had anything to do with sharing the gems with mortals.

I remember this one. wasn't it in the Age of Ice pedia? (don't remember for what) it was Pre fall bhall and Agares
 
I think it meant that the 3 brothers stole the gems despite other gods' effort to stop them. I don't exactly what kind of hardship they exactly faced, but walking into a world where the rock you were sitting on may suddenly transmutate into lava seems a bit brave, if not suicidal. I still have trouble believing a mortal could survive in the Infinite Plains of Elements...
 
Why couldn't Agares go there himself?
 
Maybe because Agares didn't want it stolen? :rolleyes:

Edit: and also if Ceridwan did help the 3 brothers, she may have done it because stealing the gem herself and giving it to the mortals would surely draw upon herself the anger of all other gods (who didn't like Ceridwan sharing magic with the mortals in the first place) and perhaps may be compact breaking
 
But it was just said that Agares sent them.
 
Yes, Laroth is trying to usurp the precept of death from Arawn.

The Three Brothers are 3 mortals who managed to steal 3 gems of creation for Agares, just like Agares had stolen them from The One. The 3 gems stolen were the gems of Water, Air, and Death. The only brother whose name we know is Tuoni the Gatekeeper, the brother who has the Gem of Death embedded in his right hand.

There aren't a whole lot of details known about them. Most of what we know comes from Kael's D&D campaigns and aren't really cannon, but I believe that their existence is canonical. Tuoni was the main bad guy in one of Kael's campaigns. When the players met him, he used the Opalus Mortis (as the gem of death was called) to resurrect every enemy they had ever faced to fight them again. (The Baron Duin Halfmorn was one of the stronger enemies, but both times the team faced him they got extremely lucky rolls and killed him before he could land a single hit.) Tuoni was working with Tebryn Arbandi, who was casting the spells of winter. Tuoni wanted him to complete a ritual hat would kill everyone in the world, so that he could trap all their souls within the Opalus Mortis and use them to create a new world over which he would be a god. Auric Ulvin was supporting the rituals for most of the time, but did not want them completed since he intended to use the magical forces the ritual had gathered in order to ascend to become the God of Ice again. (I believe that in that campaign Auric was the resurrection of Mulcarn literally, not just a mage with the affinity for the sphere. I think that this might have ben the campaign where the land itself was formed from Mulcarn's corpse, and the sea of mists from his blood.) By saving the world, the team played right into Auric's hands and made him a god. The brother who held the Gem of Air was mentioned in that campaign, but they never actually met him. He was an excuse for the team's good allies to be powerless to help them and too busy to talk, as they were busy mounting armies to defeat a warlord who could but wave his hand and create an army of tornadoes to wipe out the armies and cities of men. The brother who held the Gem of Water was never found.


I tend to think that Ceridwen helped the three brothers steal the gems from Agares, against Agares wishes. I can't find it now, but I remember the pedia used to include a conversation between a pre-fall-Bhall (or was it a post resurrection Sucellus? I think it was Bhall and that the 3 brothers lived in the age of magic, but it might have been Sucellus in which case the brothers are around now.) and Agares in which Agares seems genuinely insulted that the good god would suggest he had anything to do with sharing the gems with mortals. Ceridwen has always liked sharing power with mortals, so as to corrupt them. I think that having access to an infinite well of the power of one sphere would cause a mortal to become completely imbalanced, so dominated by that one sphere that his free will is reduced to the level of a god. It would make Tuoni very dour and the brother who holds the gem of air extremely reckless (probably enough to make him die in some stupid accident). The sphere of water however would tend to calm a person and make him comfortable without using the power. That brother likely never used the gem enough to do serious damage to his psyche. Even if he did, the sphere would make him withdraw into himself and associate only with a few close friends instead of going out and harming others.


The brothers have a constellation named after them.

Really? Think again
 
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