Random Thoughts XI: Listen to the Whispers

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I'm listening to a radio program with my local District Attorney about a study of criminal justice in Suffolk County that produced some interesting results:

WBUR, 29 March 2021 - "Not Prosecuting Low-Level Crimes Leads To Less Crime In Suffolk County, Research Finds"

WBUR said:
People arrested but not prosecuted on low-level, nonviolent misdemeanors — like shoplifting, drug possession or motor vehicle offenses — were 58% less likely to commit another crime in Suffolk County in the following two years, according to the study.
Let's say that again: People arrested but NOT prosecuted are less likely to commit another crime than people who are prosecuted.

I'm gonna have to sit with that for a minute, but right off the top of my head, it certainly seems to support the idea that putting people "in the system" - to use some Law & Order lingo - may be tremendously counter-productive, even at the level of nonviolent misdemeanors. A 'zero tolerance' policy - which was a big part of the "broken windows" theory of crime prevention instituted in Boston and New York City - may actually be truly dangerous.

From the study by researchers at Rutgers University, Texas A&M University, and New York University:

We find that, for the marginal defendant, nonprosecution of a nonviolent misdemeanor offense leads to large reductions in the likelihood of a new criminal complaint over the next two years. These local average treatment effects are largest for first-time defendants, suggesting that averting initial entry into the criminal justice system has the greatest benefits. We also present evidence that a recent policy change in Suffolk County imposing a presumption of nonprosecution for a set of nonviolent misdemeanor offenses had similar beneficial effects: the likelihood of future criminal justice involvement fell, with no apparent increase in local crime rates.
So this suggests that people who commit a minor crime aren't likely to seek promotion to the "big leagues" and commit greater crimes if their criminal tendencies aren't nipped in the bud. This also suggests that announcing an intention not to prosecute these crimes did not embolden a group of nascent shoplifters, drug users, litterbugs and jaywalkers who were only being kept in check by a fear of the legal consequences.
 
Ιν the λανδ of the blind, the one-eyed is king. It is good that the seminars make so good an impression - going also by the published comments... - but in so theoretical and boundless a subject (literature) I can't avoid feeling that this isn't important.
I'd rather prove something using busy beaver champions (some type of Turing machine, arranged to be an isomorphism for known open questions). But given I may never do that, at least I should be content with the money :)
I'll give you a boost from the bottom of the previous page.

I refuse to learn Greek one phrase at a time. :p
 
I'll give you a boost from the bottom of the previous page.

I refuse to learn Greek one phrase at a time. :p
It's less overwhelming to take it slow (I understood the part that was bolded in your post ;)).

I can recite the Greek alphabet.

I can write about half of it in mostly the right order.

I can recognize Kyriakos' full name in Greek letters.

I can read the odd word here and there, and know what they mean.

But I can't even string together a coherent sentence to say so much as 'good morning.' :(
 
I can't even string together a coherent sentence to say so much as 'good morning.' :(

In college I learned how to exclaim in ancient Greek, "Rejoice, we conquer," which were the last words of Philippides, just before he dropped dead after bringing the news of the victory at Marathon. My life then descended into a non-ending string of disasters, giving me no chance to say it. :cry:
 
In college I learned how to exclaim in ancient Greek, "Rejoice, we conquer," which were the last words of Philippides, just before he dropped dead after bringing the news of the victory at Marathon. My life then descended into a non-ending string of disasters, giving me no chance to say it. :cry:
Teach your cats to say it. They will always have chances.
 
I'm listening to a radio program with my local District Attorney about a study of criminal justice in Suffolk County that produced some interesting results:

WBUR, 29 March 2021 - "Not Prosecuting Low-Level Crimes Leads To Less Crime In Suffolk County, Research Finds"


Let's say that again: People arrested but NOT prosecuted are less likely to commit another crime than people who are prosecuted.

I'm gonna have to sit with that for a minute, but right off the top of my head, it certainly seems to support the idea that putting people "in the system" - to use some Law & Order lingo - may be tremendously counter-productive, even at the level of nonviolent misdemeanors. A 'zero tolerance' policy - which was a big part of the "broken windows" theory of crime prevention instituted in Boston and New York City - may actually be truly dangerous.

From the study by researchers at Rutgers University, Texas A&M University, and New York University:


So this suggests that people who commit a minor crime aren't likely to seek promotion to the "big leagues" and commit greater crimes if their criminal tendencies aren't nipped in the bud. This also suggests that announcing an intention not to prosecute these crimes did not embolden a group of nascent shoplifters, drug users, litterbugs and jaywalkers who were only being kept in check by a fear of the legal consequences.
Is there actually less crime?

Or did reporting of certain crimes go down because there is a 0% less chance of prosecution?


Maybe soft on crime actually works for Suffolk County, which would be great.

People who come into contact with the criminal justice system often have their lives ruined far beyond any fine or prison sentence.


Here is San Francisco soft on crime.
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-steals-from-sf-walgreens-during-tv-report-on-shoplifting/

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Gah, 87 page paper
 
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But I can't even string together a coherent sentence to say so much as 'good morning.' :(
"Kali mera", IIRC (although my anglicisation probably sux)...
 
"Kali mera", IIRC (although my anglicisation probably sux)...

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In college I learned how to exclaim in ancient Greek, "Rejoice, we conquer," which were the last words of Philippides, just before he dropped dead after bringing the news of the victory at Marathon. My life then descended into a non-ending string of disasters, giving me no chance to say it. :cry:
You've won this thread. You could use it now.
 
You've won this thread. You could use it now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheidippides

That quote appears to just be the rather corrupt (imaginative) version by Robert Browning. The original (assuming Pheidippides said it - Herodotos only refers to him in his run to Sparta to ask for help) seems to have been closer to "hail, we win!", or similar, said to the Athenians, about Marathon.
The wiki article attributes this version (hail, we win) to "Lucian", and doesn't even bother to state which of the two famous Lucians. I have to suppose it means Lucian of Samosata, since he was the greek one. At any rate, Lucian of Samosata lived six centuries after the event.
 
They should do a modern reboot of Buck Rogers.
I have fond memories of the '80s show.

I was working backstage on a production of Jesus Christ Superstar in the spring of 1981, and it was the weekend of tech rehearsals. Cast and some of the tech crew had to be at the theatre all weekend; most of them didn't need props for a tech rehearsal, but some needed them to make sure certain lighting effects worked correctly. So I spent Saturday and Sunday there for a couple of 12-hour days.

It was a long and tedious time and the cast was told to bring lunch and something to do when they weren't needed on stage for lighting and sound checks. Somebody had brought a TV and set it up in one of the dressing rooms, and since I had downtime as well, I hung out in there for awhile...

And Buck Rogers was on. I remember clearly which episode it was - Mark Lenard was in it, and he played an alien man who was romancing Wilma Deering... who understandably freaked out a bit when she discovered that he could take his own head off and was not the least inconvenienced.

What I also remember that day was that the youngest actor to play one of the Apostles was constantly frustrated that afternoon - he wanted to watch the show, but kept getting called onstage for yet another lighting check. He was coming down the stairs from the stage and heard the rest of us exclaiming over a suddenly-headless Mark Lenard (for anyone who doesn't recognize that name, he played Spock's father, Sarek, in Star Trek). He ran into the dressing room, hunkered down in front of the TV, exclaiming, "I wanna see the headless guy!"...

Only to be confronted by yet another commercial break. That was about the third time he'd gotten back right in time for the commercials. This time he actually knelt on the floor and pounded his fists and said, "No! Not AGAIN!" :cry:

Poor guy. He was a nice kid - in high school at the time, and so enthusiastic about everything to do with the production. We got into a conversation that weekend about drama, and he asked me who my drama teacher had been in school. He and a few of the other younger cast were shocked to hear that I've never taken a formal drama class, ever. They had trouble understanding how I'd gotten involved in the theatre, then, and when was I going to audition for a part onstage as opposed to backstage.

I told them I have no talent for singing or dancing and I'd gotten into it for the chance to be creative with making stuff, and because of the music. During all my years of working in musical theatre I learned so many songs I wouldn't have learned otherwise. After 40 years, I can still listen to some of them - just hit a switch in my mind and replay them, complete with the voices of the actors who sang them and the orchestra that played them.

I don't have this level of recall for the production of JCS I worked on 19 years later. That one was different in so many ways - different producer, different director, only a handful of people still around from the first production (I had a conversation with the guy playing Jesus; he'd played one of the Apostles before, and I congratulated him on his 'promotion.' :p ). This second production came at a time when I was starting to have really noticeable mobility problems and an awful lack of energy, and realized I couldn't manage the level of activity that's needed for someone on the properties crew; there's a lot of rehearsals to attend, lots of fetch-and-carry, making stuff, moving stuff, gofering (you never know when you might get asked to fill in for absent stage crew or an absent actor during rehearsals; I played Marley's Ghost one night for about 10 minutes in one production when the actor didn't turn up for a blocking rehearsal).

So I ended up as a consultant for the properties and costume crews. The props mistress that time around didn't know much about first-century Roman/Judean artifacts, so we had a conversation about the sort of things she should be looking for to help with set dressing and to make the hand props look more authentic (some productions of JCS get very high-tech, but the ones I worked on took a more low-key approach and the most technical parts of it were the lighting and sound and other atmospheric effects). Then I got a call from someone on the costume crew; she had to make the loincloth and had no idea how, and wanted some advice. I remember thinking that was a bit odd, since she went to church regularly and I never go to church. She must have seen many more crucifixes than I have.

But I told her how, and that it would be best to get the actor in to get it fitted so there wouldn't be any risk of it coming apart at the worst possible time (costume accidents sometimes happen onstage). I told her I'd worked with the actor several times over the past 20 years and he was thoroughly professional - no fuss or issues with shyness would happen during fittings where not much is being worn. I also told her that he liked to really get into a part; he had a way of mentally immersing himself in the headspace of whatever character he played, so he might ask for costume detailing that wasn't actually in the script but that would help him get more into his role. He was like that with props as well, sometimes asking for little extra things.

Hard to believe where the decades have gone... I've run into some of the people from that 1981 production over the years and we all have very fond memories of it. I don't know how many remember trying to watch Buck Rogers in the dressing room, though. I hope that young actor eventually got to see that episode in reruns. :p
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheidippides

That quote appears to just be the rather corrupt (imaginative) version by Robert Browning. The original (assuming Pheidippides said it - Herodotos only refers to him in his run to Sparta to ask for help) seems to have been closer to "hail, we win!", or similar, said to the Athenians, about Marathon.
The wiki article attributes this version (hail, we win) to "Lucian", and doesn't even bother to state which of the two famous Lucians. I have to suppose it means Lucian of Samosata, since he was the greek one. At any rate, Lucian of Samosata lived six centuries after the event.

The legend of the soldier dropping dead comes from Plutarch's On the Glory of Athens, and he reports the words as 'Nenikèkamen'. He then adds that historian Heraclides Ponticus [a contemporary] called him Thersippus, while most other historians called him Eukles.
 
They should do a modern reboot of Buck Rogers.
Brian K. Vaughan is writing a new Buck Rogers. He wrote some episodes of Lost, and was the showrunner for Under the Dome. He also wrote the comic Y: The Last Man (he wrote a lot of comics, actually, but I think that one is generally considered his masterpiece). The production company co-founded by George Clooney is part of the development, so of course Clooney is mentioned a lot as someone who could star.

Farscape was basically a remake of Buck Rogers, although that's 20 years old now, so I guess it depends on what you mean by modern, and it wasn't a direct remake, more of an homage. And if you're a purist, it had some Flash Gordon mixed in. I could definitely see something done as another stealth-remake, rather than an overt remake, but of course IP is king these days. Anyone doing Buck Rogers today would want to call it "Buck Rogers." I imagine we could expect to see "fan service" in the form of of cameos by cast members from the 1979 show. Michael Ansara and Tim O'Connor have passed away, but Gil Gerard, Erin Gray and Pamela Hensley are all still kicking, although it appears Hensley retired from acting in the '80s.
 
I'm listening to a radio program with my local District Attorney about a study of criminal justice in Suffolk County that produced some interesting results:

WBUR, 29 March 2021 - "Not Prosecuting Low-Level Crimes Leads To Less Crime In Suffolk County, Research Finds"


Let's say that again: People arrested but NOT prosecuted are less likely to commit another crime than people who are prosecuted.

I'm gonna have to sit with that for a minute, but right off the top of my head, it certainly seems to support the idea that putting people "in the system" - to use some Law & Order lingo - may be tremendously counter-productive, even at the level of nonviolent misdemeanors. A 'zero tolerance' policy - which was a big part of the "broken windows" theory of crime prevention instituted in Boston and New York City - may actually be truly dangerous.

From the study by researchers at Rutgers University, Texas A&M University, and New York University:


So this suggests that people who commit a minor crime aren't likely to seek promotion to the "big leagues" and commit greater crimes if their criminal tendencies aren't nipped in the bud. This also suggests that announcing an intention not to prosecute these crimes did not embolden a group of nascent shoplifters, drug users, litterbugs and jaywalkers who were only being kept in check by a fear of the legal consequences.
Once you have a record, it's hard to get a job. The court systems also pile on usurious fees (they have to in order to fund the courts thanks to GOP-led tax cuts) that are hard to pay for without a job. It becomes a complete cluster for the ex-incarcerated to deal with and more often then not it ends with them back in jail for petty parole violations like missing an appointment because you couldn't afford a bus ticket.

And that's not even getting into how easily apartment owners can stop convicts from finding housing, or employers from hiring them. It's like their sentence never ends, which to me is a miscarriage of justice. Then you have states like Florida finding ways to keep on disenfranchising ex-felons even after the people pass referendum to re-enfranchise them.
 
Once you have a record, it's hard to get a job. The court systems also pile on usurious fees (they have to in order to fund the courts thanks to GOP-led tax cuts) that are hard to pay for without a job. It becomes a complete cluster for the ex-incarcerated to deal with and more often then not it ends with them back in jail for petty parole violations like missing an appointment because you couldn't afford a bus ticket.

And that's not even getting into how easily apartment owners can stop convicts from finding housing, or employers from hiring them. It's like their sentence never ends, which to me is a miscarriage of justice. Then you have states like Florida finding ways to keep on disenfranchising ex-felons even after the people pass referendum to re-enfranchise them.
This was something that came into my mind too, after I posted above. Republican efforts to criminalize and disenfranchise poor people is really a straight line, A-to-B. You don't have to be a genius to see it. In the Florida case, a majority of voters agreed that people who've served their time should be allowed to vote, but Republican politicians press on anyway, f the voters. (Is now a good time to mention that Matt Gaetz is a Florida congressman?) My memory is hazy, but I think it was a Florida city a couple of years ago that completed a trial run of some kind of jobs and housing placement program for released felons and found that it lowered recidivism by an outrageous amount. It wasn't 100%, but I think it was something like an 85% reduction, or something crazy like that. Of course, reducing recidivism is the last thing you want if you make money from a for-profit prison or any associated contractors or vendors. Some days, I think our entire criminal justice system is just one towering pile of donkey-doo. ("Some" days being any day I think about it. :lol: )
 
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