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I'm pretty sure there is more to the story, but Wikipedia's succint style makes for some amusing narratives.
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So I've been on hold for ~50 minutes, and I've gone from caller #40 to caller #29. If I stick it out, I should get to the head of the line in about 2½ hours, which is after they say this line closes for the day. My question is, do they say the line closes at 1:00pm just to dissuade people from calling after that, but then they go ahead and answer the calls already in the queue? I'm glad I brought my lunch today. I guess I can eat at my desk. Or this could be like one of those contests where the last person to take his hand off the truck wins the truck. If I just outlast everyone ahead of me, maybe I'll go from being caller #28 to #1 in like 10 minutes.
Roger Payne, scientist who discovered whales can sing, dies at 88
BY PATRICK WHITTLE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Roger Payne, the scientist who spurred a worldwide environmental conservation movement with his discovery that whales could sing, has died. He was 88. Payne made the discovery in 1967 during a research trip to Bermuda in which a Navy engineer provided him with a recording of curious underwater sounds documented while listening for Russian submarines. Payne identified the haunting tones as songs whales sing to one another.
He saw the discovery of whale song as a chance to spur interest in saving the giant animals, who were disappearing from the planet. Payne would produce the album “Songs of the Humpback Whale” in 1970. A surprise hit, the record galvanized a global movement to end the practice of commercial whale hunting and save the whales from extinction. Payne was cognizant from the start that whale song represented a chance to get the public interested in protecting an animal previously considered little more than a resource, curiosity or nuisance. He told Nautilus Quarterly in a 2021 interview that he first heard the recording in the loud engine room of a research vessel and knew almost instantly that the sounds were indeed whales.
“In spite of the racket, what I heard blew my mind. It seemed obvious that here, finally, was a chance to get the world interested in preventing the extinction of whales,” he told the magazine.
Payne died Saturday of pelvic cancer. He lived in South Woodstock, Vermont, with his wife, the actress Lisa Harrow. Funeral arrangements have not yet been made, Harrow said. Payne had four children from a previous marriage to zoologist Katy Payne, with whom he collaborated. The two used primitive equipment in the late 1960s to record the sounds of humpback whales, which sometimes sing their eerie, complex songs for longer than a half-hour at a stretch. The impact of the whale song discovery on the nascent environmental movement was immense. Many anti-war protesters of the day took on saving animals and the environment as a new cause, and the words “save the whales” became ubiquitous on tote bags and bumper stickers.
Whale songs would enter the popular imagination via everything from a 1971 episode of “The Partridge Family” to a 1979 issue of National Geographic that included a flexi disc with excerpts from “Songs of the Humpback Whale.” It remains the best-selling environmental album in history.
Payne founded Ocean Alliance in 1971 to advocate for the protection of whales and dolphins. The organization has played a role in watershed moments in the history of whale protection, such as the 1972 passage of the Marine Mammal Protection Act by the U.S. Congress.
BY PATRICK WHITTLE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Roger Payne, the scientist who spurred a worldwide environmental conservation movement with his discovery that whales could sing, has died. He was 88. Payne made the discovery in 1967 during a research trip to Bermuda in which a Navy engineer provided him with a recording of curious underwater sounds documented while listening for Russian submarines. Payne identified the haunting tones as songs whales sing to one another.
He saw the discovery of whale song as a chance to spur interest in saving the giant animals, who were disappearing from the planet. Payne would produce the album “Songs of the Humpback Whale” in 1970. A surprise hit, the record galvanized a global movement to end the practice of commercial whale hunting and save the whales from extinction. Payne was cognizant from the start that whale song represented a chance to get the public interested in protecting an animal previously considered little more than a resource, curiosity or nuisance. He told Nautilus Quarterly in a 2021 interview that he first heard the recording in the loud engine room of a research vessel and knew almost instantly that the sounds were indeed whales.
“In spite of the racket, what I heard blew my mind. It seemed obvious that here, finally, was a chance to get the world interested in preventing the extinction of whales,” he told the magazine.
Payne died Saturday of pelvic cancer. He lived in South Woodstock, Vermont, with his wife, the actress Lisa Harrow. Funeral arrangements have not yet been made, Harrow said. Payne had four children from a previous marriage to zoologist Katy Payne, with whom he collaborated. The two used primitive equipment in the late 1960s to record the sounds of humpback whales, which sometimes sing their eerie, complex songs for longer than a half-hour at a stretch. The impact of the whale song discovery on the nascent environmental movement was immense. Many anti-war protesters of the day took on saving animals and the environment as a new cause, and the words “save the whales” became ubiquitous on tote bags and bumper stickers.
Whale songs would enter the popular imagination via everything from a 1971 episode of “The Partridge Family” to a 1979 issue of National Geographic that included a flexi disc with excerpts from “Songs of the Humpback Whale.” It remains the best-selling environmental album in history.
Payne founded Ocean Alliance in 1971 to advocate for the protection of whales and dolphins. The organization has played a role in watershed moments in the history of whale protection, such as the 1972 passage of the Marine Mammal Protection Act by the U.S. Congress.
I was at a supermarket, getting in line to buy some food. Since I saw there was a continuation of the line towards a second aisle, when one man (should be in their 50s) moved from there I assumed he was just taking his place (was ahead of me), but then he started going behind me. So I told him (typically phrasing it as a question) that I thought he was in line ahead of me. Then got the rather strange reply: (in Greek, of course) "It's ok. I am not Greek. I know how it goes". Wth? 
He had a gloomy tone and a mustache. Might have been turkic. Who knows, maybe even @r16
In that case, stop trolling irl, r16 :S
He had a gloomy tone and a mustache. Might have been turkic. Who knows, maybe even @r16
In that case, stop trolling irl, r16 :S
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this is not a rant . Only because it would make people happy . If it was in a rant thread .
it so happenz that people have been laughing at me for the last two days . Because somebody said something about people ı know online . The original might even be some foreigner because somehow it would not be the way ı would say it in Turkish , that a monster lies beneath . Laughing at me because ı am fat , short , bald and whatever ; it would be just an obese lizard if ı just mutated or something ...
and just heard that some of these people ı know might get a business deal and they also got new relatives ... Like 3 days advantage or what ?
it so happenz that people have been laughing at me for the last two days . Because somebody said something about people ı know online . The original might even be some foreigner because somehow it would not be the way ı would say it in Turkish , that a monster lies beneath . Laughing at me because ı am fat , short , bald and whatever ; it would be just an obese lizard if ı just mutated or something ...
and just heard that some of these people ı know might get a business deal and they also got new relatives ... Like 3 days advantage or what ?
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Not quite sure what thread to put this in...
CNN, 16 June 2023 - "Millions of Americans’ personal data exposed in global hack"
The Guardian, 16 June 2023 - "Every Louisiana driver’s license holder exposed in colossal cyber-attack"
The Oregonian, 15 June 2023 - "Massive hack of Oregon DMV system puts estimated 3.5 million driver license and ID card info at risk, officials say"
CNN, 16 June 2023 - "Millions of Americans’ personal data exposed in global hack"
CNN said:
The Guardian, 16 June 2023 - "Every Louisiana driver’s license holder exposed in colossal cyber-attack"
The Guardian said:
The Oregonian, 15 June 2023 - "Massive hack of Oregon DMV system puts estimated 3.5 million driver license and ID card info at risk, officials say"
The Oregonian said:
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it's time to pay an "old debt" . It will sound like a first rate character assasination but reading until the end is an useful thing ...
the guy writes books ; a lot of them . For that he needs contacts and he has to be nice to his sources ; scoops do not come easy . The earliest web thing ı have seen of his (out of his own site) was something in 2006 where he massaged the feelings of the audience with claims that the Greek Airforce was better trained , something like as forever . Not in his website , though .
so , there was this American forum that wouldn't let me join , because ı wasn't in America but ı had seen the guy active there , so , ı pm'ed him in his forum to contact the moderators of the American forum so that ı would be let in ... Has been useful , some human side of flying fighter jets and so on ... Considering the same Americans were somehow responsible for his slide into things , ı should like explain things or something . As in they implied he was wrong in some assesments he had made over the years and we barbarians might have even operated the F-14 , to USN standarts , had it been possible to buy them from Iran before Saddam attacked . This led him on a chase . That he would write the definitive book on 1974 , the Cyprus thing ...
that's why he finally jumped with both feet , into accepting New Turkey and made me one of the 5 or 6 people he had ever banned . You have to understand that in order to access records and old timer stories of countries like Syria , he has to be critical of Israel . What were we Turks then ? Nothing but ersatz Jews . Ersatz means something like replacement and the ersatz coffee in the blockaded Germany probably tasted just like your shoe boiled in water . Yeah , apparently shoes have been eaten in times and in places . He finally lost patience with me when ı said ı would be the Last Turk on earth ...
his book remains unwritten . New Turkey has failed to find him archival proof to be first to proclaim the entire Cyprus issue was the fault of Jews who have been misdirecting this country for ages . Işık Koşaner , the last actual Chief of Staff had all such papers burned ; the times were such that he complained everything he discussed in HQ offices would be leaked to Congregation even if he also knew the guys who would tape the rant were the very ones he was complaining to . The return for the book would be "peace with Greeks , wrongly framed for things and everything forgiven in return for a share in the Eastern Mediterranean gas deals" . Tried to give away North Cyprus in a referandum , you know ...
the Syrian troubles were a dream time . He could foresee a great victory , won by his new friends . And he had direct access ! His bitterness against Russians increased in leaps and bounds (considering his new friends were never bold enough) ...
that's how he has come to be an instrument himself . He can even talk against the drones of the second son-in-law of the PM . Now that the elections are over , he can say the world famous TB-2s were shot to pieces by March 2022 . ı was there in his website in March '22 , daily following the action and he would say TB-2s were utterly destroying everything and their demise were simply lies ...
he is at it again . He has had a full division destroyed in the clashes , only to report next day that it will take time to assess the claims of damage . He is happy at losses of one side and his reversals are impressive . One day , it is 20 kilometers to the defence lines . Next day , Maskirovska and all Russians are liars and the main line of defence is the very first one . The one currently being torn down to pieces in glorious advance .
make no mistake . He is still better than many pundits . Of the type who mock in a million ways that the Russians can only fight with the WW I tactics . Which are currently serving them rather well ... It is going to be a severe charge when something hits the fan that this war was taken into a style that the Russians knew how . This has been made into a war , the only war the Russians can win . Because they did it once . Yes , ı most assuredly do not want this to go on enough to justify calling it the Great Patriotic War II . Yes , time has been bought . By Russian blood and oil . Remember the happiness at the cut prices ? The profits are surely going somewhere ...
the point will be that he has become what he accuses others to have become . He will probably ban some guy again . On charges of being a Russian that has been infusing people with "Resistance is futile" . Have seen the criminal post myself and no , it is not the regular "Russia makes 15bn dollars a month , because the West betrays the good cause for profit" ... This guy was acceptable for so long and not anymore because the continuation needs full commitment and not a single sliver of doubt ... He is no longer needed as secondary proof that the bold proclamations came to nothing because Western Oligarchies have betrayed the good cause .
result ? It is business for him and not creed . Re-read the sentence , if you fail to notice the real cool thing done in return ... With the way things are headed , not everybody would get the thing .
the guy writes books ; a lot of them . For that he needs contacts and he has to be nice to his sources ; scoops do not come easy . The earliest web thing ı have seen of his (out of his own site) was something in 2006 where he massaged the feelings of the audience with claims that the Greek Airforce was better trained , something like as forever . Not in his website , though .
so , there was this American forum that wouldn't let me join , because ı wasn't in America but ı had seen the guy active there , so , ı pm'ed him in his forum to contact the moderators of the American forum so that ı would be let in ... Has been useful , some human side of flying fighter jets and so on ... Considering the same Americans were somehow responsible for his slide into things , ı should like explain things or something . As in they implied he was wrong in some assesments he had made over the years and we barbarians might have even operated the F-14 , to USN standarts , had it been possible to buy them from Iran before Saddam attacked . This led him on a chase . That he would write the definitive book on 1974 , the Cyprus thing ...
that's why he finally jumped with both feet , into accepting New Turkey and made me one of the 5 or 6 people he had ever banned . You have to understand that in order to access records and old timer stories of countries like Syria , he has to be critical of Israel . What were we Turks then ? Nothing but ersatz Jews . Ersatz means something like replacement and the ersatz coffee in the blockaded Germany probably tasted just like your shoe boiled in water . Yeah , apparently shoes have been eaten in times and in places . He finally lost patience with me when ı said ı would be the Last Turk on earth ...
his book remains unwritten . New Turkey has failed to find him archival proof to be first to proclaim the entire Cyprus issue was the fault of Jews who have been misdirecting this country for ages . Işık Koşaner , the last actual Chief of Staff had all such papers burned ; the times were such that he complained everything he discussed in HQ offices would be leaked to Congregation even if he also knew the guys who would tape the rant were the very ones he was complaining to . The return for the book would be "peace with Greeks , wrongly framed for things and everything forgiven in return for a share in the Eastern Mediterranean gas deals" . Tried to give away North Cyprus in a referandum , you know ...
the Syrian troubles were a dream time . He could foresee a great victory , won by his new friends . And he had direct access ! His bitterness against Russians increased in leaps and bounds (considering his new friends were never bold enough) ...
that's how he has come to be an instrument himself . He can even talk against the drones of the second son-in-law of the PM . Now that the elections are over , he can say the world famous TB-2s were shot to pieces by March 2022 . ı was there in his website in March '22 , daily following the action and he would say TB-2s were utterly destroying everything and their demise were simply lies ...
he is at it again . He has had a full division destroyed in the clashes , only to report next day that it will take time to assess the claims of damage . He is happy at losses of one side and his reversals are impressive . One day , it is 20 kilometers to the defence lines . Next day , Maskirovska and all Russians are liars and the main line of defence is the very first one . The one currently being torn down to pieces in glorious advance .
make no mistake . He is still better than many pundits . Of the type who mock in a million ways that the Russians can only fight with the WW I tactics . Which are currently serving them rather well ... It is going to be a severe charge when something hits the fan that this war was taken into a style that the Russians knew how . This has been made into a war , the only war the Russians can win . Because they did it once . Yes , ı most assuredly do not want this to go on enough to justify calling it the Great Patriotic War II . Yes , time has been bought . By Russian blood and oil . Remember the happiness at the cut prices ? The profits are surely going somewhere ...
the point will be that he has become what he accuses others to have become . He will probably ban some guy again . On charges of being a Russian that has been infusing people with "Resistance is futile" . Have seen the criminal post myself and no , it is not the regular "Russia makes 15bn dollars a month , because the West betrays the good cause for profit" ... This guy was acceptable for so long and not anymore because the continuation needs full commitment and not a single sliver of doubt ... He is no longer needed as secondary proof that the bold proclamations came to nothing because Western Oligarchies have betrayed the good cause .
result ? It is business for him and not creed . Re-read the sentence , if you fail to notice the real cool thing done in return ... With the way things are headed , not everybody would get the thing .
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The ZWD is worth less than that now. It’s worth zero since the country abolished its currency.
I just do not get why such information critical organisations outsource their data security to companies that do not have the contractual incentive to look after it as much as you would. At this point it is a when not if these companies get compromised.
The world is managed by idiots.
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Corrected.
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The "X" MoD continues to respond to "Y" counteroffensive operations with a relatively high degree of rhetorical coherence.
is the official promise of London to some . About how armband wearing lunatics will be kept down . No reference to things or anything , just a reference to talking . The blog that dispenses Pentagon's lies has a MiG-29 picture with recently attached "NATO pylons" , there is some Y pilot with 32 or 65 kills against drones and he wasn't in a Western plane , all 540 of Iranian drones were shot down by Gepards so there is no need for F-16s . There has been video leaks of American volunteers in action . This neatly negates the wobbly cowardly French demand that Y should be accepted into NATO despite the war ... which incidentally would end the war ... Do not worry . There will be people to remind the world about the rounding error in the US Defence Budget ; next year . Even if the place does not cover it yet , because the paid media agents have not forwarded the game plan yet . Though ı was touched by the offer to talk to only X after they accept their guilt and eventually pay for it . You would think Y was losing !
as a bonus ı have noticed ı was supposed to make a comment about the supply of Gripens to Y in a trickle down economy model of crumbs . Gripen was refused here in 1994 or thereabouts ı do not care about the prospects of profits for the British industry if there is a too robust supply of '16s or '18s to Y . All three jets models can go to hell anyhow .
as for the discomfort of the police in this country about the heightened alert , it is just the mafia roots of some , looking for softer targets . This on June 21st, 2023 .
edit: As you wish . They are already talking the size of compensation in these parts .
is the official promise of London to some . About how armband wearing lunatics will be kept down . No reference to things or anything , just a reference to talking . The blog that dispenses Pentagon's lies has a MiG-29 picture with recently attached "NATO pylons" , there is some Y pilot with 32 or 65 kills against drones and he wasn't in a Western plane , all 540 of Iranian drones were shot down by Gepards so there is no need for F-16s . There has been video leaks of American volunteers in action . This neatly negates the wobbly cowardly French demand that Y should be accepted into NATO despite the war ... which incidentally would end the war ... Do not worry . There will be people to remind the world about the rounding error in the US Defence Budget ; next year . Even if the place does not cover it yet , because the paid media agents have not forwarded the game plan yet . Though ı was touched by the offer to talk to only X after they accept their guilt and eventually pay for it . You would think Y was losing !
as a bonus ı have noticed ı was supposed to make a comment about the supply of Gripens to Y in a trickle down economy model of crumbs . Gripen was refused here in 1994 or thereabouts ı do not care about the prospects of profits for the British industry if there is a too robust supply of '16s or '18s to Y . All three jets models can go to hell anyhow .
as for the discomfort of the police in this country about the heightened alert , it is just the mafia roots of some , looking for softer targets . This on June 21st, 2023 .
edit: As you wish . They are already talking the size of compensation in these parts .
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The quote is by @Arakhor , in another thread, but I think it is better to reply here as I mean to write about the word.
Sycophant, despite being a reasonably common term in English, did not have originally this meaning. Although the first known use was already a subject of debate in antiquity, almost always it meant "to falsely accuse", and never to "falsely praise". The former is also its meaning in current Greek. The closest tie to the meaning in English would be the idea it might have simply referred to pleasant observation (but in no way false praise).
What is entirely known, on the other hand, is that it comes from syko (fig) and faino (show/reveal). A very believable ancient view was that it alluded to people blackmailing the rich with lies (thus getting their money to "show"), acting metaphorically like those who shook the fig tree to reveal its highest fruits.
Figs were important as a sweatener, along with honey.
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That's nuts that it could have such a complete reversal in meaning.
Not attested in English before the 16th century. First sense attested is the "accuser" sense, in the earlier 16th c. OED marks that as obsolete, but it persisted at least through the seventeenth century. "Bootlicker" from late 16th c. So for a while, both senses were available. That's the bit that's odd. I guess people would have had to make sense of which you meant by context. OED doesn't try to sort out how it is that the second sense arose.
The closest I've come across is "botch" which now means to ruin, but originally meant to fix. But one can work out the transition in that case, because botching was "only just barely fix" rather than "completely fix" and that as often as not ends up ruining a thing.
Not attested in English before the 16th century. First sense attested is the "accuser" sense, in the earlier 16th c. OED marks that as obsolete, but it persisted at least through the seventeenth century. "Bootlicker" from late 16th c. So for a while, both senses were available. That's the bit that's odd. I guess people would have had to make sense of which you meant by context. OED doesn't try to sort out how it is that the second sense arose.
The closest I've come across is "botch" which now means to ruin, but originally meant to fix. But one can work out the transition in that case, because botching was "only just barely fix" rather than "completely fix" and that as often as not ends up ruining a thing.
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I literally pooped myself thinking that.
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