Well the Russian Army has shown itself to be mostly ineffective and in dire need of foreign help in both weapons and troops. Spies, malware, and internet trolls are what remain of Russian international relations.
[RD] Russia Invades Ukraine: Eight
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Joij21
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Then why is Russia operating at a snail's pace if all of this were ineffective? Why can't Russia blitzkrieg anymore like it's late 1944 early '45?
Thorgalaeg
Deity
Logically there are many more Russians living in EU than viceversa, including the offspring of many Putinist oligarchs and politicians, maybe even some Putin's family (I think a daughter was living in Netherlands or something) and even many oligarchs themselves. It would be very easy to take all them hostages and ask Putin for literally anything, including the withdrawal of all Russian troops from Ukraine. Imagine if the civilized world stopped caring for legality, human rights and such and started applying Russia the very Russian ways. Now that would be funny.
Btw another Russian airfield on fire in Rostov. The whole thing is burning right now, along some SAM sites in Crimea again.
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Destroying Russiam airfields seems to be the number one priority for Ukraine right now.
(Now that YouTube is being banned in Russia it is mandatory to post some YouTube links too. 
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After having defeated Russia in the sea, the next logical step for Ukraine is to defeat Russia in the air, so they are targeting airfields and air defenses systematically to being able to attain air superiority over the whole Ukrainian territory with the help of the F-16s. If they have the same success as with the Russian navy, things are going to become very difficult for Russians in Crimea.
Btw another Russian airfield on fire in Rostov. The whole thing is burning right now, along some SAM sites in Crimea again.
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Destroying Russiam airfields seems to be the number one priority for Ukraine right now.
)After having defeated Russia in the sea, the next logical step for Ukraine is to defeat Russia in the air, so they are targeting airfields and air defenses systematically to being able to attain air superiority over the whole Ukrainian territory with the help of the F-16s. If they have the same success as with the Russian navy, things are going to become very difficult for Russians in Crimea.
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Another visible recent trend is Ukrainian supporters posting old links in social media, trying to make it look like this is today's news. Happened before of course, just not as often.
Pokrovsk direction seems the most worrying for Ukraine at the moment.
www.forbes.com
Pokrovsk direction seems the most worrying for Ukraine at the moment.
With Glide Bombs And Anti-Tank Missiles, The Russians Are Beating Back The Ukrainian 47th Mechanized Brigade—And Marching On Pokrovsk
Pokrovsk ‘is where the fighting remains the most intense,’ Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky conceded.
www.forbes.com
Morozovsk was not hit, or do you mean some other news ?
Senethro
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Why does this upset you, volunteer propagandist? Like, even if its true, so what?
Joij21
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Lol your army is too slow
. So of course you say it's propaganda!Tell me when the Russians are in Kiev
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They already did? Like it was literally the first thing that happened in the war. And most of the captured territory that hasn’t been recaptured is exactly the territory that Russian policy highlighted needed to be extricated from Ukrainian control, pretty much in its entirety. Like all the territories anyone argued over for a decade. As in everything going exactly according to plan.
With just a 3 years delay, only half a million people killed, and of course this is an acknowledgement that NATO was never the reason of the war.
Sorry to be a pedant, but it can't have been the first thing because it wasn't actually called a war at that point.
On top of that, we had posters (nevermind media folk) repeatedly defending the fact that it was a "special military operation" which meant it was a) not a formal war and therefore b) magically immune to the real world consequences of formally declaring war.
Well, yeah. It’s war. You kill people and take their stuff. This is as things have ever been, and ever shall be.
As for the “reason” of the war what other answers do you need? What reason does the CIA set up black sites? They are nations at war, and they’ll kill as many people as they have to to convince the enemy to give up. It was true in the chevauchees and it is still true today.
Er, the invasion? I mean, if you really want to say “but that wasn’t technically the war yet,” I mean, whatever. Like the most useful piece of advice I can give you is “look at this as if you’re a general on one side planning your move before hitting the next turn button.” If your problem is that the west is in Ukraine and is using the Kiev government to set up their black sites and expand their footprint, your solution is to throw a spanner in the works by breaking the perception of Ukraine’s inedible unity and by stressing the government until their agents need to start throwing grenades at city councils. You also want to try to tear off the most valuable land that you have an actual material interest in, it possible. And you’ll design your approach so that it presents the best long term opportunity, in your own view of course, to walk away from the table with the lion’s share of spoils. Calling it a war or not at that point is a rules lawyer detail for, indeed, the world’s rules lawyers at the war crimes office of the UN. Was this bad? Well it wasn’t technically a war. But what I really want to know is how much more cash I’m getting.
Okay, great. Like I said, maybe you guys should try to look at this more objectively, rather than as what you think are citizens of an enlightened culture unlike any other in history, “debating” against a poor fool of a warmongering nation, as if you aren’t exactly the same in every way
FSB can set any number spy site they want in Belarus on the border of EU, it would never been invade for that reason.
Russia is not the same way. Or it's the same way, but centuries later.
Putin planned to have his army decimated and be required to depend upon NK and China for supplies? Putin planned for 3 year or more war? He planned on NATO expanding?
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Well, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that spy sites are great for hurting your enemies without having to respect their "rights."
That just doesn't seem possible.
Well, and to acquire the territories he wanted, create a war-wound for infinite money, bleed the west during a time of septic economic dysfunction, take your pick. Dependent on China, that's one thing - but better to reign in hell than etc. etc.
As for NATO's expansion, hasn't that been a constant since its beginning?
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For example, this one is not a repost (the same submarine was hit in September, and was repaired since)
Ukraine claims Russian Rostov-on-Don submarine sunk in Crimea
Ukraine's military said it destroyed the Rostov-on-Don attack submarine in a missiles attack on Friday.
www.bbc.com
and a reminder of the Russian way.
Ukraine's prosecutor general said separately that an urgent investigation had been launched into information being spread on social networks about the murder and dismemberment of a Ukrainian POW.
"A photograph, probably of a Ukrainian prisoner whose head and limbs were cut off by the Russians, has appeared online," Dmytro Lubinets, the country's leading human rights official, said in a post on the Telegram messaging app.
"In view of these horrific images, I have urgently appealed to the ICRC and the UN to record yet another human rights violation by the terrorist country," Lubinets wrote.
Andriy Kostin, the prosecutor general, said an urgent investigation had been launched. "Russia consistently repeats the crimes of the Nazis, defiantly showing utter contempt for all norms of the civilised world," he wrote on Telegram.
Russia denies torture or other forms of maltreatment of POWs.
A United Nations commission of inquiry on Ukraine said in a report published in March that it had documented credible allegations of executions of at least 32 Ukrainian POWs in 12 separate incidents from December 2023 to February, and that it had independently verified three of the incidents.
The three-member Commission of Inquiry said it had also gathered more evidence that Russia had systematically tortured Ukrainian POWs, documenting rape threats and the use of electric shocks on genitals.
It said the scale of such torture cases may amount to the most serious abuses known as crimes against humanity, describing their occurrence as "widespread and systematic".
Ukraine's prosecutor general said separately that an urgent investigation had been launched into information being spread on social networks about the murder and dismemberment of a Ukrainian POW.
"A photograph, probably of a Ukrainian prisoner whose head and limbs were cut off by the Russians, has appeared online," Dmytro Lubinets, the country's leading human rights official, said in a post on the Telegram messaging app.
"In view of these horrific images, I have urgently appealed to the ICRC and the UN to record yet another human rights violation by the terrorist country," Lubinets wrote.
Andriy Kostin, the prosecutor general, said an urgent investigation had been launched. "Russia consistently repeats the crimes of the Nazis, defiantly showing utter contempt for all norms of the civilised world," he wrote on Telegram.
Russia denies torture or other forms of maltreatment of POWs.
A United Nations commission of inquiry on Ukraine said in a report published in March that it had documented credible allegations of executions of at least 32 Ukrainian POWs in 12 separate incidents from December 2023 to February, and that it had independently verified three of the incidents.
The three-member Commission of Inquiry said it had also gathered more evidence that Russia had systematically tortured Ukrainian POWs, documenting rape threats and the use of electric shocks on genitals.
It said the scale of such torture cases may amount to the most serious abuses known as crimes against humanity, describing their occurrence as "widespread and systematic".
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Deity
Tell me, do the Russians still have this weird view of Finland as a friendly country that "only wants to trade"?
The Finns deciding to run hell for leather for NATO was directly provoked by the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Sweden then had no choice but to follow Finland, since all Swedish defense plans were footed on the defense partnership with Finland, and on both of them not being members of NATO.
You need to explain what changed in Finnis politics.
Finnish politics explains the subsequent Swedish decisions.
But I take it you are happy enough with conspiracy theories, so you don't need to actually understand anything.
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