banzay13
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Almost all of my posts are labeled (by users) as Russian propaganda
[RD] Russia Invades Ukraine: War News Thread: Round 6
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After we invaded them a couple times of course....
And Mexican foreign policy prioritized keeping America happy, or at least nothing worse than annoyance.
Verbose
Deity
Experience shows that this has the greatest probability by far . You have no stock of credibility going into this to begin with, because Russia has none. If you want some, you need to gain it.
Then why did Russia recognize Ukraine as sovereign?
See, this mindset is exactly why Russia has zero friends in the world.
banzay13
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This is an empty hope.
But.
Hope is self-deception, but it is all we have.
She walks on her hands, selling her honor.
This lying creature dusts her eyes,
Disappearing the moment it's needed.
(с) an song
banzay13
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zero not equal 0 actually
its propaganda again
Majority (by ppl poputation %) didn't sancion Russia
about Ukrainei wrote 2 day before. It's not about Ukraine at all but NATO
Doesn't mean any of these countries like you or act as an ally towards Russia. Nobody is really supporting you in depth.
banzay13
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as i wrote - war is wost thing on the earth. and no one actually (normal ppl) want (suppoort) it
saamohod
Deity
And I believe you then got the answer that it isn't Russia's or any country's business to tell Ukraine what defensive alliances it can voluntarily join.
You saw that picture "how countries join NATO vs how countries join Russia", did you?
Broken_Erika
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5 killed in shelling in Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine
Meanwhile, Russia is blaming a refinery fire in its Krasnodar region on a drone attack
Moscow said Ukrainian artillery had hit a town inside Russia for a third time this week and reported drone strikes on two Russian oil refineries on Wednesday, while Ukrainian shelling in Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine killed five people.There was no immediate comment from Ukraine on the Russian reports, in a week when both countries accused each other of spreading terror in their capitals with air attacks as Ukraine prepares a Western-backed push to end Russia's invasion.
Thousands of civilians have been killed in Ukraine since Moscow's forces invaded 15 months ago, but Tuesday marked only the second time Moscow had come under direct fire, although oil and military facilities in Russia have been hit.
In the Russian town of Shebekino, two of four wounded people were hospitalized and shells damaged an apartment building, four homes and a school, regional Gov. Vyacheslav Gladkov said.
On Monday, Gladkov said two industrial facilities in the town had been hit, and on Saturday said that he had come under artillery fire when trying to enter the town, which is about seven kilometres north of the border with Ukraine.
The Kremlin said it was concerned by the shelling.
Russia claims gains on land, sea
Both sides say they are targeting the buildup of each other's forces and military equipment ahead of Ukraine's counteroffensive, which it says will come in days or weeks, to try to drive Russian forces out of its east and south.Russian-installed officials in Ukraine's eastern Luhansk region — one of four Moscow claims to have annexed — said Ukraine had used U.S.-made HIMARS rocket launchers to attack a farm in Karpaty village overnight, killing five people and wounding 19.
Ukraine's general staff said its forces had fended off 22 Russian attacks in eastern Ukraine over the past day, and Ukrainian aircraft had carried out 11 strikes on Russian personnel and military equipment, without specifying where.
Russia's Defence Ministry said it had pushed Ukrainian forces back around two settlements in Donetsk region, part of a 1,000-kilometre front line that has barely moved despite months of grueling battles that have cost tens of thousands of lives.
It also said it had destroyed Ukraine's "last warship" during a missile strike on Odesa, without providing evidence.
Oleh Chalyk, a spokesperson for the Ukrainian navy, declined to comment, saying he would not respond to any assertions made by Russia.
He said the navy would not disclose any information about losses during the war.
Reuters was not able to verify either side's reports.
Russian oil refinery burns
Drones attacked two oil refineries 65 to 80 kilometres east of Russia's biggest oil export terminals on Wednesday, according to Russian officials who did not attribute blame.A fire broke out at the Afipsky refinery but was later extinguished and a drone crashed into the Ilsky refinery without damaging it, they said, in what was the latest of several reported attacks there this month.
The skies over Ukraine were relatively quiet on Tuesday night, with no major air raids reported after waves of attacks over the previous 24 hours. Russian drone strikes killed one person and wounded four in Kyiv on Tuesday, according to Ukrainian officials.
Ukrainian drones struck wealthy districts of Moscow on Tuesday and two people were injured while some apartment blocks were briefly evacuated, according to Moscow's mayor. The Kremlin said Moscow's air defences worked effectively but had room for improvement.
Russia has noted "the lack of condemnation" by the United States and Britain of the attack on Moscow, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said.
Peskov's comments seem to be belied by the White House response on Tuesday.
"We do not support attacks inside of Russia. That's it. Period," White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said at a briefing.
Washington is a major supplier of weaponry to Ukraine on the condition it uses it to defend itself and to retake Ukrainian territory occupied by Russian forces.
Mykhailo Podolyak, a Ukrainian presidential aide, denied Kyiv was directly involved but said "we are pleased to watch events" and forecast more such strikes.
A senior Russian official also hit out at Britain after British Foreign Secretary James Cleverly was reported to have said Ukraine had a right to project force beyond its borders.
Any British officials who facilitated war in Ukraine could be considered legitimate military targets, Russian Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-day-462-1.6860140
banzay13
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I gave an answer to how russia sees this situation a couple of days ago
That's what the Munich speech was about. Did you watch it?
That doesn't answer the simple question: who said western propaganda doesn't exist?
Tbf, looking at the pic, it barely is (was) a military vessel. Maybe it was sunk just because it was available to be sunk.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
I know. In your world Russia did not invade Ukraine, killed no civilians. All just BBC, APnews propaganda.
Lexicus
Deity
If Putin didn't want war, he could order the Russian military to withdraw from Ukraine now. He doesn't do that because he wants the war to go on.
It is really that simple. The nonsense about being forced into the war to "protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine" is just that - nonsense. Russia has almost certainly killed many more Russian-speakers in Ukraine in a year of "special military operation" than Ukraine's government killed in 8 years during a war which also would not have happened if Putin hadn't wanted it to.
Ziggy Stardust
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It's insane these guys still trying to pretend they're liberating Ukrainians by killing them by the thousands.
Cognitive has never been more dissonant. Wir habben es nicht gewusst, has been replaced by: we didn't care.
Germans had the excuse of ignorance. Russians have apathy.
Cognitive has never been more dissonant. Wir habben es nicht gewusst, has been replaced by: we didn't care.
Germans had the excuse of ignorance. Russians have apathy.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Ok, lets get the basics synced.
Russia invaded Ukraine and killed thousands of Ukrainians.
Did I get that part right?
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
I apologize for the snarky tone in my earlier post. Being under the mistaken impression you supported Russia.
I am sure you, just as normal people do, will join us in condemning Russia for stating this war.
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Ukraine war: The mothers going to get their children back from Russia
Russia is taking Ukrainian children. Their mothers are travelling into enemy territory to save them.
www.bbc.com
alright so if the bbc is propaganda, then these children (and many like them) are essentially lying.
that, or the reporter(s) is talking them into exaggerating their stores.
is that what the contention is?
Akka
Moody old mage.
That's still definitely the MO we have been able to see from six threads in a row.
When Russia does something bad (or is failing at something), quick quick the pro-Russian suddenly post about something else, often something blatantly absurd which cause an empty argument, and the actual effect is that the previous info is drowned into the noise. It's been the same for the massive amount of war crimes uncovered in Izyum and Kherson.
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