Should AHMADINEJAD visit Ground Zero? Columbia?

[A1CBOZ]

I'm sure that makes it worse. But the core problem is the inherent violence of his religion. Yeah, I know, some jerk off on here is going to say something about Islam being the "religion of peace" and all that. Sure, if you can honestly read the Koran and believe that, you go right ahead.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I'm sure that makes it worse. But the core problem is the inherent violence of his religion. Yeah, I know, some jerk off on here is going to say something about Islam being the "religion of peace" and all that. Sure, if you can honestly read the Koran and believe that, you go right ahead.

The Q'uran, much like the Bible, can show you whatever message you want to find in it. If you want to find evidence for killing all non-muslims, then cite the passage about waging war against the non-believers (of course, Mohammed would have more likely been referring to the pagan Arab tribes or the Zoroastrian Sasanians than to Christans or Jews); if you want to find evidence about toleration of Jews and Christians, and the welcome relationship between them and Muslims, the cite the passages about "Children of the Book."

 

[George2816]

I'm sure that makes it worse. But the core problem is the inherent violence of his religion. Yeah, I know, some jerk off on here is going to say something about Islam being the "religion of peace" and all that. Sure, if you can honestly read the Koran and believe that, you go right ahead.

Sure and the bible in the old testment says to kill homosexuals, kill your kids, and sell your daughter into slavery. With things like that who needs "GOD?" (I didn't say it also say for the "israel's people" to kill other people in the name of their "god")

 

[A1CBOZ]

Which is my main problem with the Koran. It contradicts its own message in so many passages that it really does crumble under close examination. But o well, whatever floats their boat.

 

[A1CBOZ]

Sure and the bible in the old testment says to kill homosexuals, kill your kids, and sell your daughter into slavery. With things like that who needs "GOD?" (I didn't say it also say for the "israel's people" to kill other people in the name of their "god")

Kill homosexuals I remember that, though it was only practicing homosexuals but whatever. I never heard/read anything about selling children into slavery or killing your kids. But I do admit I haven't read the OT in a while.

 

[George2816]

Which is my main problem with the Koran. It contradicts its own message in so many passages that it really does crumble under close examination. But o well, whatever floats their boat.

Same with the bible and i'm guessing that the christans don't really read the bible do they? (Or if they claim they do, they don't talk stuff word for word!)

 

[A1CBOZ]

Same with the bible and i'm guessing that the christans don't really read the bible do they? (Or if they claim they do, they don't talk stuff word for word!)

You mean it being violent or contradictions? Jesus preaches love, and the core message of the NT is never contradicted, unlike the Koran, so I don't understand your arguement.

 

[George2816]

You mean it being violent or contradictions? Jesus preaches love, and the core message of the NT is never contradicted, unlike the Koran, so I don't understand your arguement.

IF as you claim jesus preached love why is it this "christan nation" is always at war and loves guns and killing people?

 

[A1CBOZ]

IF as you claim jesus preached love why is it this "christan nation" is always at war and loves guns and killing people?

Though it was originally a Christian nation it no longer is. The supposed seperation of church and state has ruined that. And if you look closely instead of making generalizations, you will see that true Christians very rarely are involved in any muders, or crimes at all for that matter. And the war part? Even a Christian nation will defend itself. But anyway. This is off-topic. Lets get back to the Islamo-nut thats visiting

 

[George2816]

Though it was originally a Christian nation it no longer is.

It was never a christan nation (Unless you were a prutin (what how ever you spell it) or a quaker.

The supposed seperation of church and state has ruined that.

HMM?? Guess your just like your pal bush and connecting the dots, right?

And if you look closely instead of making generalizations, you will see that true Christians very rarely are involved in any muders,

abortion shooting (UH thats right "god" told him to kill the doctors), Giving israel bombs to attack civs (Uh that right "Israel people" are first class citizens and everyone else could die right?)

or crimes at all for that matter. And the war part?

Sure and iraq and 9/11 had what to do with each other? Didn't bush claim saddam had ICBM's with nukes?

Even a Christian nation will defend itself.

AN aggressive miltary is not defending itself

But anyway. This is off-topic. Lets get back to the Islamo-nut thats visiting

The only people i worry about more then the islamo-nuts are those christano-nuts that claim they are talking to them/(god is guiding them)

 

[A1CBOZ]

It was never a christan nation (Unless you were a prutin (what how ever you spell it) or a quaker.

Actually the colonies were founded to be an escape for protestants to get away from catholic persecution

HMM?? Guess your just like your pal bush and connecting the dots, right?

You honestly can't say that the people in this country are better becasue they are never taught any religion. When Bibles were taken out of schools, they were replaced by bullets, it's a simple fact, deal with it.

abortion shooting (UH thats right "god" told him to kill the doctors), Giving israel bombs to attack civs (Uh that right "Israel people" are first class citizens and everyone else could die right?)

I said true Christians. Those people are about as Christian as Jerry Springer.

Sure and iraq and 9/11 had what to do with each other? Didn't bush claim saddam had ICBM's with nukes?

Yes to first question. No to second.

AN aggressive miltary is not defending itself

Best defence is a good offence. Besides, we were attacked if you don't remember.

The only people i worry about more then the islamo-nuts are those christano-nuts that claim they are talking to them/(god is guiding them)

At least they won't try to kill every person in the country for simply being American.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Iran is the main culprit responsible for sending suicide bombers into Iraq that in turn kill both Iraqis and any foreigners they can find regardless if they are military or not.
.

Where do you get your facts from ?
50% of all suicide bombers come from SAUDI ARABIA

 

[George2816]

You honestly can't say that the people in this country are better becasue they are never taught any religion. When Bibles were taken out of schools, they were replaced by bullets, it's a simple fact, deal with it.

Sure and maybe it was chance. You know just because you never saw 16 year old girls with babies in the 50's doesn't mean it doesn't happen

I said true Christians. Those people are about as Christian as Jerry Springer.

I'm still looking for one good "christan"

Yes to first question. No to second.

OK so your saying 9/11 and iraq had something to do with each other

Best defence is a good offence. Besides, we were attacked if you don't remember.

Iraq had nothing to do with it. And remember hitler used that same thing!

At least they won't try to kill every person in the country for simply being American.

SOme times kids have to pay for their father's sins!

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

You honestly can't say that the people in this country are better becasue they are never taught any religion. When Bibles were taken out of schools, they were replaced by bullets, it's a simple fact, deal with it.

Simple fact? You stating it makes it a fact?

As for Adimanawhackjob visiting the site, I think that this could be a political opportunity fo rboth parties involved. Fact is, we may have to live with a nuclear Iran. Let's at least talk.

 

[George2816]

Simple fact? You stating it makes it a fact?

As for Adimanawhackjob visiting the site, I think that this could be a political opportunity fo rboth parties involved. Fact is, we may have to live with a nuclear Iran. Let's at least talk.

Did you see what that nut job McCain wants to do with ahmadinejad?

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Did you see what that nut job McCain wants to do with ahmadinejad?

Not sure what you are referring to here. I don't recall McCain ever saying something specific about what should be done to him alone. I know that during the debates nuclear strikes were left on the table, but that's all I can remember. If he said that he was a criminal or terrorist that wouldn't surprise me.

 

[George2816]

Not sure what you are referring to here. I don't recall McCain ever saying something specific about what should be done to him alone. I know that during the debates nuclear strikes were left on the table, but that's all I can remember. If he said that he was a criminal or terrorist that wouldn't surprise me.

It was today on foxnews or yahoo let me see if i can dig it up


I can not find it but mccain should we should use force to prevent ahmadinejad from going to the towers. Of course McCain was also laughing. With people like McCain who needs enemies?

 

[EdwardTking]

I dare say that if Mr Ahmadinejad is NOT allowed to visit Ground Zero 9/11;
he will no doubt claim that such denial is evidence that 9/11 was a hoax.

 

[George2816]

I dare say that if Mr Ahmadinejad is NOT allowed to visit Ground Zero 9/11;
he will no doubt claim that such denial is evidence that 9/11 was a hoax.

WHy are people so upset?? Lets the hypisecy of the USA empire at its highest! ANd how do you know the 9/11 was not planned or not stopped by bush and his crew??

ANd i say bush shouldn't be allow to leave the shithouse without getting arrested!

 

[amadeus]

you still haven't answered my question. Since when does being the ultimate America hater obstruct one's ability to mourn and sympathize?

Do you think that somebody that supported the Holocaust would go to Auschwitz and mourn the dead there? What about a supporter of Pol Pot; would they go mourn the deaths at S-21?