Should you need to be pass a credit check in order to vote?

[Traitorfish]

And I wanted to add that illegals shouldn't be able to vote, which is obvious

No it isn't.

 

[cegman]

Oh the irony.

I'm glad you caught it. I hope you realize it was very tongue in cheek joking. I thought I made that obvious by saying I would drive you to your free healthcare.

Also, a nitpick from before: Banana Republic is not a term people use to describe the US (or at least I've never heard it used as such). It's reserved for the more kleptocratic nations, particularly ones who can grow large amounts of bananas.

I just said I heard it described as such. Some of the later parts of that post were a bit of a joke. The Banana Republic had more to do with Wisconsin politics than the whole state but I've heard it used by people on WPR (local public radio that admits it's liberal bias) and by people on conservative talk radio so it wasn't just a left or right idea here. It had more to do with the attempts by other sides to prevent votes or steal votes and all kinds of vote getting events that pushed the line.

Mother of God! JR JR!!!! What the frak is this! You promised me no election fund! What do you have to say about your self now sir!

I was drunk, it'll never hold up in court. You took advantage of me... I'm not entirely sure what this means... Is that a pink elephant behind you. What is going on?

 

[Terxpahseyton]

Switzerland is much closer to a democracy. They use direct voting often do decide laws. A democracy involves directly voting.

So what is the difference between a representative and a direct democracy? Do you think Germany is a democracy?

If you care, I here made a summarization of how I perceive the matter. I think that this would benefit your POV a lot.

 

[kochman]

So let me get this straight. According to this idiot, in order to be able to vote, you have to get a good credit score?

So that makes me ask: what about someone like, oh say, me, who refuses to use credit cards? No voting for an ex-felon who doesn't like the idea of being in debt to a private company?

What kind of nonsense is this?

Ah, Republicans. You're the WHOLE reason I'm not one.

Ditto...
This clown is trying to take us, eventually, back to when only land owners can vote.
Kind of defeats the purpose of "democracy".

 

[History_Buff]

I'm glad you caught it. I hope you realize it was very tongue in cheek joking. I thought I made that obvious by saying I would drive you to your free healthcare.

I figured it might be. I did like the coffee reference.

I just said I heard it described as such. Some of the later parts of that post were a bit of a joke. The Banana Republic had more to do with Wisconsin politics than the whole state but I've heard it used by people on WPR (local public radio that admits it's liberal bias) and by people on conservative talk radio so it wasn't just a left or right idea here. It had more to do with the attempts by other sides to prevent votes or steal votes and all kinds of vote getting events that pushed the line.

Well, fair enough. Still though, America = Democracy (among other things).

 

[Flying Mathias]

So what is the difference between a representative and a direct democracy? Do you think Germany is a democracy?

If you care, I here made a summarization of how I perceive the matter. I think that this would benefit your POV a lot.

I'm not a politics kind of guy, but is America not a Republic, and a Democracy?

The Americans vote on officials to represent them in the government, the Senate or the House of Representatives.

After all, in a large nation like the US, with a population 300 million strong, a "true" democracy is impossible. That's why officials are elected, polling everyone who wants to vote on every issue would be impossible. But still, some issues are voted on nationally, so there is still some democracy in place.

 

[Ajidica]

As someone mentioned earlier, we are a Constitutional Presidential Democratic Representative Republic, or for short, a Democratic Republic.

 

[useless]

Not sure why anyone's suprised or shocked, this is the norm with the republican party's attempts to stop, deny or dissuade anyone who isn't one of the "good ones" from voting.

 

[Ajidica]

@Useless: While I feel that most GOP promoted 'voter ID' measures are over the top, this is over the top even by their standards. I hardly feel that one should conflate this nut in Iowa with everyone else.

EDIT: 13,000th post!
(Also entitled, I spend far too much time here!)

 

[Cutlass]

Although i understand why you would like to implement these restrictions and can see good reasons for it unfortunately these types of rules have been abused in the worst way in the past by Democrats. In order to prevent that kind of abuse it is probably better to limit our restrictions as much as possible to balance between voter fraud and voter suppression. Illegals should not be able to vote, they legally aren't allowed to vote afaik. There is no reason to change rules just assist in the enforcement.

Those abuses were by conservatives. Equating that to modern Democrats is disingenuous at best.

 

[cegman]

Nope sorry. I see the same racism by modern Democrats as you saw back then. "Black people are too stupid to get ID" "It is too difficult for people in the inner city to get an ID" The things Margret Sanger said in the 30's is not to much different than what is being said now. Klansmen were part of the Democrats in congress into the 80s. I don't buy the "we've changed" bull.

The people that should and do have difficulties getting ID are older people. They vote conservative more often so...

 

[Cutlass]

Nope sorry. I see the same racism by modern Democrats as you saw back then. "Black people are too stupid to get ID" "It is too difficult for people in the inner city to get an ID" The things Margret Sanger said in the 30's is not to much different than what is being said now. Klansmen were part of the Democrats in congress into the 80s. I don't buy the "we've changed" bull.

The people that should and do have difficulties getting ID are older people. They vote conservative more often so...

Yeah, no part of that post is even remotely legitimate.

 

[cegman]

Been reading Saul Alinsky huh?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2304339/posts

RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

 

[Cutlass]

I've never heard of Saul Alinsky. Whoever or whatever that is, it doesn't change the fact that your previous post was racist drivel.

 

[JollyRoger]

Been reading Saul Alinsky huh?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2304339/posts

Been reading freerepublic huh?

 

[FriendlyFire]

Thats Federal of course, statewise, obviously States should be able to impose additional restrictions such as literacy, etc. And I wanted to add that illegals shouldn't be able to vote, which is obvious but they do in great numbers.

I want there to be a written test before voting, anyone not smart enough should not be allowed to vote: Say locating Afganistan on the map

 

[Formaldehyde]

There used to be those sort of provisions to disenfranchise blacks in the South.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_test

Editorial cartoon from the January 18, 1879, issue of Harper's Weekly criticizing the use of literacy tests. It shows Uncle Sam writing on wall, "Eddikashun qualifukashun. The Black man orter be eddikated afore he kin vote with us Wites, signed Mr. Solid South."

 

[Terxpahseyton]

I'm not a politics kind of guy, but is America not a Republic, and a Democracy?

That is certainly may take at it and the take academia offers. Republic and Democracy actually describe different aspects of a state. To view them as contradicting alternatives is appallingly out of touch with the history of those terms. It is nothing short of the try to misinterpret history for ideological reasons. Orwellian.

 

[Tee Kay]

In other words, you're comparing apples and oranges.

 

[NovaKart]

How are illegal immigrants voting? Don't you have to register to vote? Does anyone have evidence of this actually happening?