The Democratic Caliphate.

Thanks baseball pie, but I didn't understand your explanation, can you please try again?

What I meant was that I couldn't decide which was better, both seemed as good as the other. But Patronage will only be useful if we can get the Red Fort, if not then it's useless. The only thing I must still check is if Cordoba starts the Red Fort before we complete Optics, because if they do then Patronage shouldn't be an option (as it'll unlock nothing for us).

I didn't want people to vote on 2 techs, just one actually.
 
Casting your doubt means that you casting your doubt on the idea that both are good tech paths though. I believe that this is probably one of those idioms in your native language that literally means something else and doesn't translate into English well with its literal meaning.
 
Casting your doubt means that you casting your doubt on the idea that both are good tech paths though. I believe that this is probably one of those idioms in your native language that literally means something else and doesn't translate into English well with its literal meaning.

I guess you're right. So now I learned a new expression, that's great :goodjob:


So I have just played the turns using Makkah as the last city for the whip, and we got the quest! Our stables are now a source of :food: too.


But I'm sorry to say that we can't outspeed Cordoba on the Red Fort. Cordoba makes 50:hammers: for it, that's because of Absolutism. We both have stone, but while our best city can't make 40:hammers: for the Fort (which means it'll take more then 30 turns to make the Red Fort), Cordoba already started and will complete it in 18 turns. Even if we let a whip I don't think we will be able to do it before Cordoba gets it.

So my vote goes to Gunpowder

Those who voted on Patronage I ask you to reconsider because of all wonders that Patronage allows, 3 need other religions as state religion, and the Red Fort is impossible to get. There is nothing else Patronage gives us.

We will still have 1 council before the Ottomans, so I think we will be able to complete Gunpowder before the Ottomans arrive.


And soon you'll see if we can reach the New World this term already.
 
I change to supporting Gunpowder
 
So Gunpowder seems to be on the lead, as 5 of the 10 Counselors (11 with Caterpillar, but he will be part of us on next update just to follow what this council should have been) have voted on it. So I'll continue the game now with Gunpowder as our choice.
 
Did I get a vote? I really have no idea :p I've just been watching :p
 
Did I get a vote? I really have no idea :p I've just been watching :p

I think you could, but I was strict with last council's members. Although Southern King joined after the council was ready, he joined whil Sanguiv was still here. He didn't vote anyways. Next Council you'll be a full member Caterpillar.


BTW Adhiraj, your workers are doing things pretty fast, if you want to give any further order now is the time because they will complete everything you ordered before the end of the term.

EDIT: I'm not making roads for you, as you didn't state that. If you wish to pave the tiles you're working on I think that's enough job for your workers until the end of the term.
 
That's fine with me!
 
So guys, I finally made it! This term was an incredible turn of events. Now I'm going to sleep. We have to decide what to do with the group now that a new council is brewing and a new member is joining.


The only thing I'll tell you now is that there is no civ with a bigger or stronger army then ours.
 
Can I vote in favour of gunpowder? I participated in the story in the beginning, if that counts. For example I proposed the colonisation of Zanzibar.
 
So guys, I finally made it! This term was an incredible turn of events. Now I'm going to sleep. We have to decide what to do with the group now that a new council is brewing and a new member is joining.


The only thing I'll tell you now is that there is no civ with a bigger or stronger army then ours.

It's alright, no need to thank me, just doin' my job :mischief:

In re the group, I personally prefer the old routine where we decide everything in the group and save the story thread for the story and updates.
 
I'm in favor of Gunpowder.
 
I would go instead to Gunpowder and then Banking.
 
I highly doubt we'll be adding people any time soon. Mainly we would be keeping the status quo. I mean, are we planning any new conquests or colonies in the forseeable future ? Most of what we'll be doing is just defending against Mongols and Turks at least till 1300 Ad. Then in 1500 we would be preparing for the Safavids and we haven't really decided on what to do with them.
 
The problem with the group is that only Sanguivorant can add people.

That's right Ales. There are 3 ways we may solve this:

1- We keep the old Group and manage the new members with PMs and the thread;
This is the best solution if Sanguiv comes back, as we will keep all structures as they were, but at the same time will become harder and harder as more members join the council.

2- We keep using only the main thread
This way it'll be easier to merge things from out of the group into the group when Sanguiv comes back. But it'll flood the main thread and may pollute the story.

3- We create a new group
This is the best for organization until Sanguiv comes back, then it'll be a hard job to merge the groups.


So Counselors, what do you prefer? I'll open this voting to any viewer of the story, but I'll wait only for the majority of Counselors. Our current counselors are:

Adhiraj
Dar al-Iraq​

Baseballpie
Counselor​

Caterpillar
Stability Advisor​

DKVM
Dar al-Anadol​

Jackelgull
Nidham al-Adl (Master of Spies)​

Knoedel
Dar ash-Sham​

Manuss
Dar al-Zanj​

Noob
Adimir al-Bahr (Naval Commander)​

SouthernKing
Wazir al-Kharijiyah (Foreign Affairs)​

Spirictum
Dar Misr​

VGL
Dar al Arab​


I highly doubt we'll be adding people any time soon. Mainly we would be keeping the status quo. I mean, are we planning any new conquests or colonies in the forseeable future ? Most of what we'll be doing is just defending against Mongols and Turks at least till 1300 Ad. Then in 1500 we would be preparing for the Safavids and we haven't really decided on what to do with them.

Caterpillar has already joined, and I think we may need to add more soon. Expect an incredible turn of events, as I said before :cool:
 
I'm fine with you guys using the group, is it possible for mods to add people?
 
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