"The Liberal Media"

[Cutlass]

Americans would do well to note that your most left-wing mainstream politicians aren't much different from our most right-wing mainstream politicians!

We keep trying to tell them that, but the message is not getting through.

 

[Core Imposter]

Americans would do well to note that your most left-wing mainstream politicians aren't much different from our most right-wing mainstream politicians!

I understand that. I just don't care.

 

[useless]

If thats the case, why do believe Obama is a socialist when in reality he is not?

 

[Core Imposter]

Americans would do well to note that your most left-wing mainstream politicians aren't much different from our most right-wing mainstream politicians!

Non-Americans would do well to note that if a real American were to find himself stranded in the wilderness, starving and dying of thirst, our greatest dread would be that a government official might wander by with water and food and that we might find ourselves without a weapon or the strength to use one.

 

[peter grimes]

If you rant about Fox News and at the same time claim there is no "liberal media" as well, then you are just disingenuous.

I can't believe you just asserted such a naive statement.

Jeez man, come on.

The "liberal media bias"
Outside of the clearly partisan sources such as Fox News and MSNBC, the rest of the media is driven by public opinion in search of the highest possible ratings. They provide what the American public wants to hear to maximize their advertising revenue.

Liberal media in the US is a myth.

Have you seen some of the commentators on MSNBC?

No discussion of media in the US can be considered informed without all people involved being very familiar with the ideas and DATA laid out by Chomsky & Herman. It is the definitive text on this stuff.

It's not an easy read - I've put it down several times over the years, but it is absolutely a must-read for anyone concerned about perceived biases in the media. The stuff that really blew my mind were the discussions of topics and events *not even covered* by the media. That's the more insidious aspect of bias in the media, and it is nearly completely on the side favoring conservative interests.

Rant all you want about 'MSNBC is Liberal', but when you actually look at it very closely you'll find that's not the case.

It might be helpful to compile a list of actual liberal news-sources. Feel free to add to this:
-MotherJones
-Antiwar.com
-AlterNet.com
-Counterpunch
-DemocracyNow

 

[Phrossack]

Non-Americans would do well to note that if a real American were to find himself stranded in the wilderness, starving and dying of thirst, our greatest dread would be that a government official might wander by with water and food and that we might find ourselves without a weapon or the strength to use one.

Actually, the majority of Americans are not paranoid murderers. Speak for yourself.

 

[Flying Pig]

Non-Americans would do well to note that if a real American were to find himself stranded in the wilderness, starving and dying of thirst, our greatest dread would be that a government official might wander by with water and food and that we might find ourselves without a weapon or the strength to use one.

This post speaks volumes!

Actually, the majority of Americans are not paranoid murderers. Speak for yourself.

He was being sarcastic - the point is that Americans seem to hate the idea of living on welfare or having their guns taken away more than they love life itself.

 

[peter grimes]

He was being sarcastic - the point is that Americans seem to hate the idea of living on welfare or having their guns taken away more than they love life itself.

Poe's Law suggests that it's not possible to tell.

 

[Dreadnought]

A couple of commentators against an actual news program.... And still the so-called 'liberals' in most instances also have a conservative counterpoint on the air.

Fox News' news programs aren`t biased.

We keep trying to tell them that, but the message is not getting through.

Why does it matter at all?

 

[Mr. Dictator]

Non-Americans would do well to note that if a real American were to find himself stranded in the wilderness, starving and dying of thirst, our greatest dread would be that a government official might wander by with water and food and that we might find ourselves without a weapon or the strength to use one.

Tell us more about shooting government officials

 

[Flying Pig]

Poe's Law suggests that it's not possible to tell.

I'm still working on 'assume good faith' on this site, although that's eroding daily...

 

[Angst]

Fox News' news programs aren`t biased.

What again?

 

[peter grimes]

Fox News' news programs aren`t biased.

What would you have to see in order to be persuaded that Fox is indeed biased?

 

[classical_hero]

It might be helpful to compile a list of actual liberal news-sources. Feel free to add to this:
-MotherJones
-Antiwar.com
-AlterNet.com
-Counterpunch
-DemocracyNow

Just because they are further to left than the general media, doesn't make mainstream media not biased towards the left and thus generally liberal.

It seems that most people here are not seeing the bias n the media, since it thir bias also, so they are seeing the media as they want to.

 

[Angst]

Ah I think I got it now; he followed the assumption that if a news program included counter-arguments to an article's agenda, it would mean that Fox News weren't biased (Because childish yelling at it aside, they often do include another party with another opinion), therefore showcasing that Cutlass' assumption was wrong.

 

[Angst]

Just because they are further to left than the general media, doesn't make mainstream media not biased towards the left and thus generally liberal.

It seems that most people here are not seeing the bias n the media, since it thir bias also, so they are seeing the media as they want to.

I think the problem is that Conservatives and their issues are being more and more extremist and that regular people are, well, not extremist.

EDIT: Rephrase that: Not regular people, but educated people are usually not extremist; educated people often offer the sources available for substantial journalism.

 

[Dreadnought]

What again?

What would you have to see in order to be persuaded that Fox is indeed biased?

He said MSNBC's new programs aren't biased. I'm making a very simple retort.

 

[Angst]

Didn't I hit the nail on the head with the follow up post?

 

[Tahuti]

Didn't I hit the nail on the head with the follow up post?

Dude, since Fox News' motto is Fair and Balanced, why wouldn't they. Common sense 101.

 

[peter grimes]

He said MSNBC's new programs aren't biased. I'm making a very simple retort.

No, you said:
"Fox News' news programs aren`t biased."

That which is asserted without evidence may be rejected without evidence. So I'm asking you if you'd change your mind about your claim that Fox News isn't biased if we were to show you evidence to the contrary.

If you answer No, then this subtopic is closed for discussion; don't bring up Fox News anymore and we won't either.

If you answer Yes, then this discussion may move forward.

It's really up to you - I don't care much either way.