the "tramp stamp", what do we think about it?

[scherbchen]

Yeah, but a tramp stamp is right above the ass.

which is a perfect spot when you think about it. easy to cover up when working or at an event where you don't want it to be seen with a gown, dress, or just a t-shirt and easy to show off when you want to with a low-cut dress, bare-midriff-T, low-cut pants or the like.

which is probably one of the reasons why they became so popular in the first place.

 

[Traitorfish]

That would be funny if it were true, but half of them are trying to figure out the last episode of lost. The other half are wondering who's next to get thrown off of American Idol. If you're lucky, there might be that one guy who recognizes that all of that is bull[crap] and wonders what the hell is wrong with everyone.

And I reference you back to the cartoon, and you repeat the claim that it's isn't accurate, and I reference you back to the cartoon, and it goes on and on like that until you get over yourself.

Yeah, but a tramp stamp is right above the ass.

This seems to be particularly significant to some people. I'm not entirely sure why.

 

[warpus]

which is a perfect spot when you think about it. easy to cover up when working or at an event where you don't want it to be seen with a gown, dress, or just a t-shirt and easy to show off when you want to with a low-cut dress, bare-midriff-T, low-cut pants or the like.

which is probably one of the reasons why they became so popular in the first place.

Nah, it's popular cause there's so many tramps walking around with disposable income.

 

[BCLG100]

i.e. http://images.ibsys.com/2002/1002/1699687.jpg

though he was paid do to this.

 

[scherbchen]

Nah, it's popular cause there's so many tramps walking around with disposable income.

dunno, my reasoning, given above, along with the bit I mentioned earlier about that specific area not bearing so much of the wear and tear (literally) of being pregnant and ageing sounds a lot mor plausible to me than "baaahaaa! sheeples!"

then again I am weird, so...

 

[Narz]

You have hotness in your bloodline Elta.

Also, youthful looking women are a "good thing". Everyone's so afraid to seem "pedo" (really not the correct word even) that any female that could possibly be under 18 elicits these types of comments. I bet you that if/when I post a pic from my local chess club of a fairly cute female who attends people in Member Photos will be like "lolz, Narz, she looks 15" even though she's 24.

 

[Narz]

As for the girl Abby posted I wouldn't be surprised if she was anywhere between 14 & 22. But certainly not 11.

 

[warpus]

You have hotness in your bloodline Elta.

Also, youthful looking women are a "good thing". Everyone's so afraid to seem "pedo" (really not the correct word even) that any female that could possibly be under 18 elicits these types of comments. I bet you that if/when I post a pic from my local chess club of a fairly cute female who attends people in Member Photos will be like "lolz, Narz, she looks 15" even though she's 24.

"local chess club" or.. local paedo club?!??

Either way, I don't think people get tramp stamps cause they're easy to conceal during job interviews The main reason is that here's a perception among a certain subgroup of the population (closely correlated to that subgroup which listens to the top-40 variety of music) that such a thing is sexy.

 

[scherbchen]

well I like to think that there is more than one dimension to somebody doing something. sure it is in a zone that is considered to be very sexy by many men, including myself. how is that wrong or bad? others get permanent eye-liner or get a perm or a dye-job. add to all of this the fact that it is easily conceivable yet easy to display if you want to and that it is in a prime location that will keep fresh for many years and you got yourself some good reasons to put it there. not denying that fads and trends don't play into it, mind you.

certainly more layers than "lol, tramp stamp" has to it, eh? not even going to go near "top 40 music" and whatever that was because it just is inane

anyhoo, tired of repeating myself. gotta get on another forum and keep repeating that gamers are just social rejects and losers who live in their mom's basement. at 32. got to reinforce those stereotypes or someone might actually start to think that people are individuals. brrrrr.....

 

[warpus]

You have a girlfriend with a tramp stamp, don't you, scherbchen

 

[scherbchen]

You have a girlfriend with a tramp stamp, don't you, scherbchen

had, like I said in this thread. and I also said that imho it does not deserve the monicker but that I consider it to be a real work of tattoo art, instead.

 

[bhsup]

How about "hooker horns"??

 

[Bill3000]

It also says they probably don't have a job that pays taxes and that they aren't especially interested in getting one.

Uh, circular reasoning much?

 

[Elrohir]

Well that's the prejudice then isn't it... It makes no difference to his ability to perform his job, but he'll get fired anyway, cos people don't like people with mohawks. I mean, if the discussion was about people who dye their hair blonde or brown or whatever, nobody would fire someone for that. But dye it pink and green and suddenly you're in "it was your own fault you didnt even give yourself a chance to get it" territory. It's the same old prejudice: bias against people who don't conform to social norms. Gays got it for a long time, but who you choose to sleep with has nothing to do with your ability to perform a job, regardless of how your customers might react to a gay waiter, so it's illegal to discriminate. Pink & Green hair is the same thing...

I'm glad we've reached the point, as a society, where we can compare people's sexualities to trivial decisions about outward appearance during a time of youthful rebellion!

But there is a difference here- your position is one of aesthetic preference, based on past experiences. Subjective, yes, but entirely valid. Fugazi, on the other hand, made a blanket assertion as to the "disgusting" nature of tattoos and the question character and moral standing of those who wear them (and, so far, has failed to properly elaborate upon either assertion), which is an altogether more reactionary position.

Can we at least recognize that certain choices about how you look are a valid insight into someone's character? Getting an eagle tattooed on your shoulder may not say much about your character or personality, but getting glasses tattooed onto your face, where you can't cover it up, makes you look like a complete moron. Saying "If you have a tattoo then you're an idiot! lol!" is stupid, but let's not try and pretend that how people choose to portray themselves isn't an important part of their character. (I'm not sure if that's what you're arguing, but I do think it's a point that needs to be made, and is probably behind a lot of the general revulsion of tattoos expressed here. Also, most people here are probably too nerdy to go get tattoos of their own.)

 

[CurtSibling]

And I reference you back to the cartoon, and you repeat the claim that it's isn't accurate, and I reference you back to the cartoon, and it goes on and on like that until you get over yourself.

I'm amused by people like Traitorfist are crusaders for the everyday folk,
whom he thinks are all eclectic, lively beings of such unique imagination...
In reality, 80% of the people he champions will hardly understand what he
is talking about, and will ask him why he does not watch American Idol...

Referencing back to someone else's cartoon is ironic, as this act neatly
pushes him into the very category of people he seeks to speak up for...

 

[Yeekim]

Uh, circular reasoning much?

Exactly how is that circular reasoning?

 

[Mise]

I'm glad we've reached the point, as a society, where we can compare people's sexualities to trivial decisions about outward appearance during a time of youthful rebellion!

Careful now, I'm not comparing sexuality to outward appearance; I'm comparing prejudice against sexuality to prejudice against appearance. It's the same prejudice -- he's different to us, he must be weird, I'll steer clear of him. "I want to dine with people who are like me" -- i.e. whites, non-gays, christians, etc. The wellspring of prejudice is the same in all instances, regardless of what is being prejudiced aganist.

It says they go out of their way to attract attention, even if it's negative.

Uhh, it couldn't be because they like pink hair, could it? You don't think you're, uhh, pre-judging people, do you?

It also says they probably don't have a job that pays taxes and that they aren't especially interested in getting one.

Quite enough for starters.

Erm, you do realise the circularity of this whole argument... "He can't get a job because he has pink hair. He has pink hair because he doesn't care about getting a job."

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy: People call pink-haired people weird, so fewer people dye their hair pink, thus making pink-haired people stand out even more and look even less normal.

Maybe if people weren't so prejudiced against people with pink hair, more people would be willing to have pink hair, so that accountants and engineers would also start dying their hair pink.

All these prejudices have a common source: automatic and irrational dislike of people who are different. I'm generally opposed to anything that is irrational and stupid.

 

[Yeekim]

Uhh, it couldn't be because they like pink hair, could it?

Because people never want to express themselves or make a statement when they choose their outlook? Again, am I allowed to simply "like" and wear a swastika? Or a "rainbow" outfit? Or would you make some assumptions about me based on these choices?

You don't think you're, uhh, pre-judging people, do you?

I absolutely am.

Erm, you do realise the circularity of this whole argument... "He can't get a job because he has pink hair. He has pink hair because he doesn't care about getting a job."

It is not "circular reasoning", for there is no fallacy in logic. Unless of course you challenge my assumption that having a green mohawk seriously undermines one's options of getting a job. From the following part of your post I understand you don't.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy: People call pink-haired people weird, so fewer people dye their hair pink, thus making pink-haired people stand out even more and look even less normal.

Correct. It works the other way as well; people who want to seem weird dye their hair pink, so as to stand out more. Ultimately, one has to decide on one's priorities - and the way he decides is, again, a source of information.

Maybe if people weren't so prejudiced against people with pink hair, more people would be willing to have pink hair, so that accountants and engineers would also start dying their hair pink.

Also correct. That is, in fact, happening rights now. However, this only means that attention whor*s (ok, perhaps I should be empathic, there could be legitimate psychiatric issues) need to find new ways to stick out. - and they do. Like all kinds of emo-self-mutilation idiocy.

Basically, some people are screaming "God damn, look at me, look at me!!!", while you go "Nothing to look here, move on, move on!"

 

[Mise]

Well if you can't think of any other reason to choose a hairstyle than to draw attention to oneself then I think this says more about you than about anyone else.

 

[Yeekim]

Well if you're just going to assume that people choose their hairstyles for no other reason than to get attention then that says more about you than about anyone else.

Unfortunately, it is not what I said.
But I suppose you'd argue that this guy for instance

Spoiler :

chose his hairstyle mostly because:
1) he wanted to stay unnoticeable.
2) he simply wouldn't look good any other way ( );
3) it's highly comfortable, practical and easy to maintain.
So did she, probably:

Spoiler :