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TIL: Today I Learned

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Cutlass, May 24, 2013.

  1. Takhisis

    Takhisis is it fall yet

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    So basically they Uyghurs are supposed to thank PRC government for doing its best to continue Sinification processes started by the old Imperial Chinese governments. Hmmm. I'm glad we've cleared that one up.
    Well… I don't post pics in the CFC member picture threads, don't even have a cellphone (not least because of said privacy concerns) so I'm in very much a cultural minority.

    If I took pictures of my next-door neighbour's attractive daughter, printed them out and started handing them out to friends and family as adequate masturbation material I'd be a creep. If I instead found out her handle on <insert social network here> and beamed it out over any electronic messaging platform it'd be totally acceptable. It's as if it being ‘technology’ somehow absolved people of any responsibility because the system is ‘smart’.
     
  2. Lexicus

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    Taking pictures of someone is imo different from copy-pasting pictures they took of themselves and then posted on the internet. I've been accused of "stalking" on Facebook for looking at people's profiles that they set to be publicly available (my own profile is set to be viewed by friends only).
     
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  3. Ferocitus

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    Of course. And you should believe the stories of peasants about electrodes and white foaming vomit, because highly educated peasants know the difference between electrodes used for torture and medical cables attached to a patient's chest, and when emergency saline drenches are used to flush burst cysts caused by alveolar echinococcosis.
    You and I know there is a huge effort in the North-West to eliminate hydatidosis and other dreadful maladies that are endemic there, but that doesn't fit the narrative of the evil Chinese.
    I mean, what kind of idiot would believe a doctor about vaccination, or iodine deficiency, or hydatitis when their yoga instructors know all that and so much more about spirituality.
    Glad we cleared that up!
     
  4. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    "The Uyghurs are a proud independent people who do not consider having electrodes attached to their genitals to be torture."

    Skip ~4:30
     
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  5. Zkribbler

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    Yep. Prison camps are good for you. :yup:
     
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  6. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    So I don't know much about this whole Uyghur situation but I'm pretty certain torture is detrimental to your health. Like really really bad both mentally and physically regardless of how good iodized salt is.

     
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  7. Valka D'Ur

    Valka D'Ur Hosting Iron Pen in A&E Retired Moderator

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    We're a minority of two, then. The farthest I've gone is posting my cats' pictures (have occasionally used Chloe's photo as my avatar, and Maddy looks like a bazillion other black DSH cats).
     
  8. Ferocitus

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    No argument there. I didn't condone torture or execution in anything I wrote, so I hope you aren't implying that I did.
    I am completely and utterly against capital punishment. (BTW, the CCP is not my party, and I don't know anyone in it.)
     
  9. Ferocitus

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    Why are people returning from there after a day or two, or a week? BTW, I don't know what's going on in there, and nor do you.
    I suspect that there is a medical component to the detainment, as well as a political one. I do know for certain that there is a very large effort to treat and contain several appalling illnesses and conditions in that region too.
     
  10. Ferocitus

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    For the record: I don't believe the propaganda on either side.
    I haven't seen evidence of torture by any credible agency. There are people claiming that the camps are extermination sites. Even the Pentagon isn't claiming that there have been mass executions and mass torture, so where do you and others get that kind of information from?
     
  11. Ferocitus

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    TIL that Uyghurs have definitely been incarcerated and denied basic legal freedoms.
    Uyghurs were held in solitary confinement and that a Judge declined to rule in favor of transferring six of the Uyghurs from Camp 6 where captives are held in solitary confinement to Camp 4 where they live in communal barracks with fellow captives. It was reported that detainees who had been classified as NLEC were, not only still being incarcerated, but one was shackled to the floor for reasons not disclosed by his attorney.
    Disgraceful! And I should have known that it was true, but I just kept denying it for some reason. :o:o:o
     
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  12. haroon

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    Sorry this thing failed to wrapped up, I want to stop answering but I think I need to say this, the Uyghur are not imprison for couple of weeks and they are really imprison for some pure paranoid reason like "studying aboard" this is what actually my friend suffered.

    I believe it is not fair to assumes the Uyghur might deserve such treatment because they might be "Taliban" like in nature, intentionally or not it is really sound truly condescending.





    His parent:



    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/18/asia/uyghur-china-detention-center-intl/index.html
     
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  13. Mouthwash

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    Hey, apparently Liechtenstein is some kind of anarcho-capitalist utopia as well as being a monarchy. Who knew?

    (In reality, they're actually a case study for why culture really does determine success - note that they were the last country in Europe to legalize female suffrage, suggesting that the family is still very strong over there. I expect being more of a small town than a country doesn't hurt either.)
     
  14. Hrothbern

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    Lichtenstein is monarchy indeed (not a constitutional monarchy)
    However as stated in the article: "and he [the Prince] gave the people the right to dismiss him and his family.
    That the BBC ignored that caveat... well what does some author of the BBC know about something almost medieval continental in Europe.

    But Lichtenstein is no place at all for Anarchists or Libertarians !!!
    Libertarians mostly do not recognise that they can only exist under the protection of the State (unless they live somewhere in the wilderness).

    If you Mouthwash, or the author of that article, would live or work in Lichtenstein, you would know that the social cohesion of Lichtenstein is almost identical to the social repression towards people that do not fit in.
    The kind of thick skulled indepence thinking of farmers is accepted to a certain degree, the kind of stubborness that the pastor of the church in for example Schaan has, to ring the church bells all the time, also during the night, despite almost all citizens of Schaan being against that noise, is also accepted.
    But people like you would either change-adapt completely or be total fringe in that Lichtenstein society.
    Just go there, apply for a job, and express your opinions as you do here on the forum... enjoy the ride !

    Regarding the "power" of that Prince.
    The Prince has earned so much money with being a tax haven, that he subsidised his people like an utopian socialist paradise. I am too lazy to write up what that all entails, but being born in Lichtenstein is a ticket to prosperity regardless your skills.
    With tightened tax evasion regulations from EU countries, his money stream is since a couple of years greatly diminished.
    But his existing wealth generates enough money to syustain him, and his utopian obedience system to grant his family the alibi, the legitimation of a nation state.
    A win-win for the Prince and the Lichtenstein citizens... paid by over the last decades by the surrounding country governments losing tax and enabled by the greed of the tax evading citizens and companies in those bordering countries.

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    ohh... to have that clear: I do know quite a lot of people from and in Lichtenstein, both autochtones as migrants, and almost every one I know are really nice people to know personally.
     
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  15. Ferocitus

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    I read that some were imprisoned for nearly 12 years without charges or trial. Appalling behaviour that should be condemned in the strongest terms.

    I have to exile myself from CFC for a while. I'm sure that will make a lot of you happy.
    TIL, actually T we all L, that you can't trust Commies. :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
     
  16. BenitoChavez

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    TIL that the Desert Rain Frog is the cutest thing ever when it gets angry

     
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  17. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    It's basically a tax haven pretending to be a country. You may as well cite Monaco as proof that gambling is the foundation of national prosperity.
     
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  18. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    "I'm going to start my own principality! With blackjack! And hookers!"
     
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  19. Lohrenswald

    Lohrenswald 老仁森林

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    hey have you heard there's this tract of land between croatia and serbia claimed by neither country I thinik we can make this work
     
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  20. Takhisis

    Takhisis is it fall yet

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    up yours!
    legalising female suffrage
    the family is very strong

    I somehow think that you are equating ‘family values’ to ‘keep the women at home until/after (delete whichever does not apply) they marry in/out (delete whichever does not apply)’.
     

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