[GS] Unique Unit Elimination Thread

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  1. Darujistan

    Darujistan Chieftain

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 6
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23 (22+1) I love naval units in most games and will probably end up upvoting the rest of the naval UU's listed - this unit ensured an early domination (just got into industrial era) victory for me.
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Hoplite (Greece) - 2 (5-3). As said above - barely useful when you have 2 of them next to each other - can't remember the last time I built 1 spearman let alone 2!
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 23
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 22
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  2. cosmicmangobear

    cosmicmangobear Warlord

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 6
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Hoplite (Greece) - 2 = 5-3 Just doesn’t quite cut it as a UU. Too generic. Not strong enough.
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24 = 23+1 These guys are absolutely terrifying in the early game.
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 21
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
  3. Architect

    Architect Prince

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 6
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Hoplite (Greece) - 0 (2-3) ELIMINATED - Surprise! an AC unit is terrible. Adjacent Hoplite bonus should be +20.
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22 (21 + 1) all around classic.
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 22 (fixed)
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 21
     
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  4. Ceydezed

    Ceydezed Warlord

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 6
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17 = 20-3. Honestly i dont think i ever built one of these, so it could be amazing, but it just does not have any consistency with any other Khmer bonuses.
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22= 21+1. Probably a bit more situational than others, but such a strong naval unit! No resource needed (huuuuge), giving movement to adjacent units (huge for war or settling), and stronger in formation. And early, and in a super useful spot in the culture tree. So yes definitely a great boat.
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 22
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
     
  5. Troy Bruckner

    Troy Bruckner Prince

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 20
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 6 -3 = 3 (Not my preference to be eliminated with what is left, but let's clear things up since it's near the bottom of the barrel)
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 22
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23 +1 = 24 This should be the last unit standing.
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia)
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 22
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
     
  6. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Elderly Tortoise

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    I think post #63 missed the the previous post's votes. The Hoplite should have been eliminated after #63 but post #64 also downvoted the Hoplite when it shouldn't have been on the list at that point. Not quite sure how to resolve that one.

    Also De Zeven Provinciën should be at 23.
     
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  7. DWilson

    DWilson Where am I? What turn is it?

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21 (20+1) If you plan for it, this can allow you to be a coastal menace like the Viking Longship (with similar movement and attack bonuses), albeit more focused on the cities themselves rather than pillaging. 30 is more than enough to knock out early cities, if your opponents give you the opportunity. The added trade protection is a nice touch, as it adds to the resistance against the plague of barbarian boats.
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 3
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 17
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 21
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 17 (20-3) I selected this out of the many non-upgradeable into units at random with the intent to punish that design in particular.
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 22
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24

    I would say those downvotes are simply lost as correcting would be too much of a headache
     
  8. Icicle

    Icicle Prince

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 3
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14 (17-3) So forgettable that Firaxis overlooked them in the patch.
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22 (21+1) The perfect tool for an amazing conquest civ.
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 22
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 17
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 22
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
     
  9. Kmart_Elvis

    Kmart_Elvis King

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 3
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23 (22+1) I once got the Great Admiral that forms fleets right around the same time I built my first MG. It was one of the most lopsided conquest sprees I ever went on.
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 18
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 17
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 17 (20-3) This on the other hand... Cool concept for a ship, but you never get a chance to use it's ability because of how few ships the AI makes.
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 22
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 24
     
  10. Atlas627

    Atlas627 Deity

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 3
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 15 (18 - 3) This unit prevents me from building cheap Scouts early if I do want to explore quickly, and still can't quite hold its own in combat if I do need defense.
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 17
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 17
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 11
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 22
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 25 (24 + 1) Oh hey, looks like I now have the land of 2 civs, because nobody can stand up to these getting easily spammed. Oh, nobody around to conquer? Guess that means more barbarian goody huts for me! And the barb camp Inspiration gives you the cavalry production card...bonkers
     
  11. bengalryan9

    bengalryan9 King

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 3
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 17
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 15
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 17
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 17
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 8 (11-3) These would be fine if they could move after firing. They can't, so they aren't.
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 23 (22+1) Great at grabbing goody huts, and has nice early synergy with the bonuses to pillaging you'll get as Norway.
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 25
     
  12. AJ22PIZZA

    AJ22PIZZA Chieftain

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    Impi should be at 20 points, as per #58, no one has voted on it yet.
     
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  13. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Elderly Tortoise

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 4 = 3 + 1. I think it is better than the Saka Horse Archer. Crouching Tiger has more ranged attack than its contemporary (crossbow), Horse Archer does not (archer). Horse Archer has more movement but that matters little when it can't retreat after attacking. Both upgrade into a field cannon which is really odd since the Horse Archer is a classical era unit meaning you have to wait 3 eras to do so and it goes obsolete way before then.
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 15
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 17
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 17
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5 = 8 - 3. See above.
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 23
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 25
     
  14. Leucarum

    Leucarum Emperor

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 24 (23+1) The most enjoyable thing about Spain's kit. So much combat strength and era score...
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 4
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 22
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 15
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 17
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 14 (17 -3) If the AI ever built a convincing navy then its ability to steal ships would be better...
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 23
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 25
     
  15. Troy Bruckner

    Troy Bruckner Prince

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    Up the minus to 4 or 5 or this is going to go a long long time.

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  16. Sirsquier

    Sirsquier Warlord

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 23
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 4
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 17
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 19 = 22 -3 not that strong and forts are weak
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 15
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 18 = 17+1 love the abilities. The combat bonus is OP on some maps while the no penalty is crazy epic
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 17
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia)
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 23
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 25
     
  17. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Elderly Tortoise

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    Sea Dog should be at 14 and Conquistador at 24.
     
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  18. Sostratus

    Sostratus Deity

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 24
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 1 = 4 - 3- Look, it's just not the Cho ko nu. 1 range units can be devastating (see warak'aq) but you're often better off putting xbows behind your front line than letting these guys be your front line. Outstanding when garrisoned during sieges, but it's just not enough. It also needs a hard build. :(
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 23
    Digger (Australia) - 18 = 17 + 1 - these mates deserve some credit. Not only do they come with +2 base strength, they get +5 outside your own territory. Not continent, your territory - extremely handy on the attack. Then, in a twist that brings unimaginable shame to Hojo, they get +10 on coastal tiles. Dump all of them together and you're sitting at +17 on foreign coasts over regular infantry. But wait! there's more!
    These Eco-Warriors eschew Oil and bring the awesome power of Vegemite to the battlefield. No oil requirement! Insanity! It's virtually impossible to win a game without picking up replaceable parts, so they are great for busting through tough opponents on your way to victory. (Like liberating some CS for the +100% production on your space race)
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 19
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 15
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 18
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 14
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 23
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 25
     
  19. monstercat

    monstercat Warlord

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 24
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 1
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 24 (23 + 1) My favourite naval unique, it's got 67 ranged CS against defensible districts, which isn't far off Battleships, except this is nearly a whole 2 Eras earlier.
    Digger (Australia) - 18
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 19
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 15
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 18
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 11 (14 - 3) My least favourite naval unique (after U-boat). There just aren't any ships to capture with this, courtesy of the AI
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 23
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 25
    Winged Hussar - 21 fixed (this dropped off the list, last seen with 21 points)
     
  20. Troy Bruckner

    Troy Bruckner Prince

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    Barbary Corsair (Ottomans) - 21
    Bireme (Phoenicia) - 21
    Black Army (Corvinus/Hungary) - 20
    Carolean (Sweden) - 15
    Conquistador (Spain) - 24
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 1 -3 = -2 Good bye. Thanks for making me use a second vote that I could have used on the Scythian horse archer you think is worse..
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 24
    Domrey (Khmer) - 17
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24 +1 = 25 No other unit can capture 60% of a districts cost when it defeats an enemy.
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 14
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 21
    Huszár (Hungary) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 21
    Immortal (Persia) - 22
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Janissary (Suleiman/Ottomans) - 22
    Jong (Indonesia) - 22
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 19
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 23
    Mandekalu Cavalry (Mali) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 23
    Mountie (Canada) - 15
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 15
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 24
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 18
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 11
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 5
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    Toa (Maori) - 23
    Varu (India) - 22
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 23
    Warak'aq (Inca) - 22
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 25
    Winged Hussar - 21 fixed (this dropped off the list, last seen with 21 points)
     
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